Fact is a LOT of boats bearing Spaniards shipwrecked on Irish shores in 1588, remnants of the great ARMADA, driven around the island of Great Britain by storms and British war ships. I'm sure there were other occasional groundings as well, but 1588 was the big year for Spaniards shipwrecked in Ireland. Don't know if even that would have had a major genetic impact, however. Paul C. Palmer ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra W. Doolittle <nangirl@ldl.net> To: <WALDROP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WALDROP] Black Dutch > When I was very young, my grandmother would call me the > only Black Irish in the family as she was. > > > Meaning we both had very dark hair hers was black..I mean > real black and dark eyes and fair skin. > My grandmother hair and eye were black, yet her skin was > as pale as ivory soap. > My hair isn't as black, but eye are, I am fair skin, but I tan well. > > I've been told that this came from the Irish and the Spanish having > children. My grandmother's maiden name was McKenzie and > her mother's maiden's name was McBride. > > My McBride's ancestors were White , Liverman and Aldridge. > I have researched my McKenzies line , yet. > > Richardson, McBride, McKenzie, White, Aldridge and Liverman > doesn't sound Spanish, maybe when I research past Liverman > McKenzies and McBrides > I will find where my Black Irish came from. > > I also heard a boat shipped wrecked near Ireland and > this is suppose to be when the Irish and Spanish had children. >