Good morning, All - Though I've kind of hit a wall with my Greatgrandfather, Joseph C. Waldrop (1856-1923, B'Ham, AL), I read all of the entries listed. This one really caught my attention not because of a possible connection but because of item#3 and the reference to Hitler being a "Black German" and what caused that. I had noticed in documentaries and newsreel footage that his personal image didn't exactly reflect his idea of the pure Aryan. Does anyone else see the irony here? BTW, as far as my cousins and I can tell, Joseph C.'s (above) father came from NC but we're not sure. I submitted some info and a query back on March 1. I didn't get any "hits" but got some nice and courteous replies. Thanks. I may re-submit and maybe somebody with a connection will see it this time. I enjoy all of the information that everyone is submitting. Makes for good reading and gives a human touch to all of the names and dates and locations, etc. Regards, Michael Davis Athens, AL -----Original Message----- From: JanDawson@aol.com [mailto:JanDawson@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:09 AM To: WALDROP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WALDROP] Black Dutch According to the encyclopedia, there were at least six groups of people referred to as Black Dutch. The terms appeared to refer to anyone of dark skin, hair and eyes. Following are the groups described: 1. MELUNGEONS. A mixed race of dark-skinned races, such as Indian, Negro, Spaniards, and Whites. 2. RAMAPOUGH INDIANS. Mixture of Mulattos and Indians. 3. BLACK GERMANS from the Black Forest area of Germany. They had black hair and dark skins instead of the blond hair and blue eyes of the northern Germans. Supposedly the darker coloring came from an interbreeding with African mercenary soldiers black in the Roman Empire days. (Hitler was a Black Dutch.) 4. GYPSIES. (Not their technical name). 5. DUTCH (DEUTSCH) and BELGIAN JEWS. 6. MULATTOS. Mixture of Negro and white races. There are many web sites explaining Black Dutch. You can find them using your search engine. I know of only one Waldrop documented to have been called "Black Dutch." More about him in the next message. Jan ______________________________