This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/pBC.2ACE/4307.1 Message Board Post: I believe that Max was first married to a Lottie and Lottie was the mother of Charles and Ralph. Max and Lottie are on the 1910 WA census. Can't find the family on the 1920. From Wa. Birth Index: Parent: Max L Holmes Name: Holmes Holmes Location: Seattle Parent: Lottie Tootbakar Birth Date: 20 Dec 1911 Sex: M Race: W Parent: Mar L Holmes Name: Holmes Holmes Location: Seattle Parent: Lottie Fotheker Birth Date: 25 Sep 1909 Sex: M Race: W From WA Death Index: Max L Holmes Place of Death: King Date of Death: 28 Oct 1945 Age: 64 Gender: M Certificate: 1016 From SSDI: Charles L. Holmes SSN: 534-07-4972 Last Residence: 98115 Seattle, King, Washington, United States of America Born: 26 Sep 1909 Died: 1 Jun 1996 State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951 ) There's a Lottie buried: Lottie C Holmes Birth: unknown Death: 1912 Burial: Mount Pleasant Cemetery Seattle King County Washington, USA There's also a Ralph Holmes buried at same cemetery--believe he died circa 1950. Check the web site Find a Grave. Max per draft registration card was born Sept 17 1882. At the time of the registration his wife's name was Esther and they lived in Seattle.