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    1. [WA-CEM] Cemetery Retoration story
    2. Please take a look at this cemetery restoration and preservation story. It touched me deeply, and helps to explain why we do what we do. http://starnews.com/extra/features/99/dec/1207st_cemetery.html Kevin Fraley Director, Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    12/16/1999 01:54:28
    1. [WA-CEM] Re:Adams County Cemeteries
    2. >Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 07:32:04 -0800 >To: "Gale & Irma Gfeller" <[email protected]> >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: {not a subscriber} Re:Adams County Cemeteries >In-Reply-To: <[email protected]@galegfel> > >Hi Irma, > What you are doing sounds great, but I did have a question. If I understood you correctly, you are thinking of having two alphabetical lists, one following the other. I would recommend integrating these into one alphabetized list, with the symbols showing which entries are from other records. Be sure to show where records differ, so the researcher has all possible information. This has proven to be much easier for the reader to find what they seek without overlooking information. It is up to you how you do this, I am just giving my opinion. > >Kevin Fraley > > >At 10:35 PM 12/6/99 -0800, you wrote: >>Hello Kevin, >> Hope your computer problems are at an end. It can be very frustrating >>can't it? Just a few comments that I need your input on. While compiling >>the information for the Adams County Cemeteries we promised you, I decided >>to do some more intensive research. I have checked the burial records of >>the various churches that were involved, the funeral home records, the >>death certificates on file at our County Health Department, and obituaries >>from the newspapers. These resources will make the lists as complete as >>possible. Do you want this information as well as the tombstone listings? >>It will be easy to print a code along with these names, i.e., 1. church >>burial record (!), 2. obituary (*) 3. death certificate(+), these would be >>listed after the tombstone listing in alphabetical order. We are keeping >>the complete lists for the Historical Society as we get many requests for >>this type of information. I think people would appreciate verification for >>the graves that we can certify, instead of just saying, "Also reported to >>be buried here." Let me know your thinking on this. >> >>Many thanks, >>Irma Gfeller >>Lind, WA [email protected] >>

    12/07/1999 08:33:52
    1. [WA-CEM] new cemetery files online
    2. Greetings, Newly online in the Washington Cemetery Project and WA GenWeb Archives: Gray's Harbor County: St. Paul Catholic Cemetery, Westport Chelan County: Fraternal Cemetery, Chelan, part I (A-D) Fraternal Cemetery, Chelan, part II (E-J) Fraternal Cemetery, Chelan, part III (K-P) Fraternal Cemetery, Chelan, part IV (R-Z) Several more just about ready, going as fast as we can. Kevin Fraley [email protected]

    12/06/1999 02:05:21
    1. [WA-CEM] 18 new cemeteries online
    2. Good morning, We have just completed and placed online 18 new cemeteries in SE Washington. This is for the Washington Cemetery Project, Washington GenWeb Archives, and the USGW Tombstone Project. Garfield County Dick Cemetery North Fork Cemetery Asotin County Asotin Creek (Bracken) Autrey, Mountain View Ayers Babandorf Body Place Critchfield Gulch Haberman, Joseph Creek Joseph Creek McKinzie Myers Neal Pleasant Ridge Catholic Roupe, Grouse Creek Taplin Vest, Joseph Creek Weissenfels Thank you, Kevin Fraley

    11/30/1999 07:57:57
    1. [WA-CEM] Birthdate calculator
    2. Jill Boles
    3. Hi, I've got the equation for the birthdate calculator that I copied from a site at PAF. If anyone wants it, contact me, I don't want to take up space on this forum. Jill [email protected]

    11/29/1999 08:20:18
    1. Re: [WA-CEM] date calculator
    2. Maggie Rail
    3. Try this, I think it will be what you want http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html At 06:36 PM 11/28/99 -0800, you wrote: >Hi listers, >Does anyone know of site where birth dates can be calculated from a death >date plus age (actually, two out of three fields filled in, the program >comes up with the third date)? There used to be one in one of hte older >versions of PAF, but newer versions don't seem to have it. Seems there >should be a site out there some where. Would be handy for figuring a birth >date from a known death date and age. >Thanks, >Pat > > >

    11/29/1999 08:19:00
    1. [WA-CEM] Dates
    2. Maggie Rail
    3. Hi to all, The last three files I have edited the compilers have been using an abbreviation of the year in the dates. i.e. '56, '30, '44 for 1956, 1930 and 1944... I feel it is very important that we not do this. There are many things we can abbreviate if we put a key up explaining them, but please do not shorten the dates, leaving out the century. There is a sensible way to abbreviate the month but not the year... Thanks.............Maggie

    11/29/1999 07:57:59
    1. [WA-CEM] new cemeteries online
    2. Hello, The following cemeteries in Douglas County have been added to the Washington Cemetery Project. Indian Princess Cemetery Mansfield Cemetery Packwood (Dyer Hill) Cemetery Valley View Cemetery Thank you, Kevin Fraley http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    11/29/1999 12:30:17
    1. [WA-CEM] date calculator
    2. Pat Rice
    3. Hi listers, Does anyone know of site where birth dates can be calculated from a death date plus age (actually, two out of three fields filled in, the program comes up with the third date)? There used to be one in one of hte older versions of PAF, but newer versions don't seem to have it. Seems there should be a site out there some where. Would be handy for figuring a birth date from a known death date and age. Thanks, Pat

    11/28/1999 07:36:05
    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. I have bad news and good news (trying to laugh to keep from crying here). The bad news is that a big crash has wiped out every single one of the 1400 messages in my inbox. The good news is that I'm suddenly much less behind in backed up work. If you have sent me anything to which I have not yet responded or acted upon, please resend. Kevin Fraley Washington Cemetery Project Washington GenWeb Archives

    11/28/1999 07:51:59
    1. [WA-CEM] Happy Thanksgiving
    2. Maggie Rail
    3. Hello everyone, This is good time to see if I can send to the list. I have been unable to for a couple of weeks. Secretly I think Kevin did something to cause it, but he says no......<grin> I welcome the new volunteers....I am the one who tries to help Kevin edit...when I am not driving him crazy... Something just occurred to me... I will be out of a job when we get all the cemeteries read? Happy Thanksgiving to everyone... Maggie

    11/25/1999 07:36:44
    1. [WA-CEM] 5 more cemeteries online
    2. Hello, Last time this week, I promise. We just placed 5 more cemeteries online in the Washington Cemetery Project, all in Asotin County. Anatone Cemetery Craige (Montgomery Ridge) Cemetery Mountain View Cemetery Silcott Cemetery Theon Cemetery Next week we have a large number of cemeteries we hope to get online, including several from Douglas, Lewis, and Lincoln Counties, plus others. Thank you, Kevin Fraley Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    11/19/1999 02:30:43
    1. [WA-CEM] more new cemeteries online
    2. Hello, Today we have added two new cemeteries in three files to the 6 new ones which were added yesterday to the Washington Cemetery Project. Those yesterday were in Adams and Asotin Counties, these two today are in Island County <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/cemetery/islcem.htm>. Langley (Woodmen) Cemetery, Section B Langley (Woodmen) Cemetery, Section C St. Peter Lutheran Cemetery, Clinton These are the complete burial lists of these cemeteries, augmented with other information. Thank you, Kevin Fraley Director, Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    11/19/1999 11:59:39
    1. [WA-CEM] new cemeteries online
    2. Hello, I have just uploaded six new cemeteries to the Washington Cemetery Project and the Washington GenWeb Archives. These files contain complete burial lists and other information. The new cemeteries are: Adams County <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/cemetery/adamscem.htm>: Bauer Werttemberger Cemetery Cunningham Cemetery Asotin County <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/cemetery/asocem.htm>: Asotin Cemetery Cloverland Cemetery Green Place Cemetery Lake Cemetery Thank you, Kevin Fraley ([email protected]) Director, Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    11/18/1999 05:41:32
    1. Re: [WA-CEM] {not a subscriber} abbreviations
    2. Hi, I'd rather not have any more rules and stuff than we already have. All I ask is that whatever abbreviations you use, that they make sense to the average person and that you provide a key at the top of your file. Maggie has some abbreviations that she has found useful in her numerous transcriptions, but there is no reason to make any one system mandatory, as long as the reader can easily understand what is presented. Thanks, Kevin Fraley At 12:51 PM 11/10/99 -0800, you wrote: >hello Listers, >I would like Kevin to give us a list of abbreviations for use in our >listings. After talking with a fellow transcriber at a cemetery today, I >realized that we don't all use the same set and think it would be better if >we did. >for instance I use: >s/s = shared stone, but today learned that others use s/w = stone with >s/b = shared base >s/o = son of >w/o = wife of >m/o = mother of >f/o = father of >how about? >s/d = stone damaged >s/t = stone toppled >d/d = duplicate data - I have a couple with double stones >sp/c = spelling correct > >These are some that I already use, some I've seen and some that sound >interesting. >Could I have thoughts on this please? >Pat, Almira > > > >

    11/10/1999 02:06:17
    1. [WA-CEM] {not a subscriber} abbreviations
    2. Pat Rice
    3. hello Listers, I would like Kevin to give us a list of abbreviations for use in our listings. After talking with a fellow transcriber at a cemetery today, I realized that we don't all use the same set and think it would be better if we did. for instance I use: s/s = shared stone, but today learned that others use s/w = stone with s/b = shared base s/o = son of w/o = wife of m/o = mother of f/o = father of how about? s/d = stone damaged s/t = stone toppled d/d = duplicate data - I have a couple with double stones sp/c = spelling correct These are some that I already use, some I've seen and some that sound interesting. Could I have thoughts on this please? Pat, Almira

    11/10/1999 01:51:30
    1. [WA-CEM] New Gray's Harbor County Cemeteries page online
    2. Hello, The new comprehensive cemetery page for Gray's Harbor County is now online in the WA GenWeb Archives and Washington Cemetery Project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/cemetery/grayscem.htm This makes twenty Washington counties whose cemetery pages are finished and online, with nineteen more to go. I hope to have them all online by next Memorial Day. If any county coordinators of those counties already online have not yet linked to your pages, please do so. Contact me if you need any assistance. Kevin Fraley WA GenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wafiles.htm Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    11/09/1999 01:04:57
    1. Re: [WA-CEM] Questions
    2. Charles Dailey
    3. From the standpoint of a historical researcher, having at least one unnamed baby listed can mean the end of the search. I was searching in Myrtle Creek, Oregon for and adult named John Burris Smith, buried in 1901. When the keeper of the records located at least 20 graves named "J. Smith," I knew the search had ended. If no "J. Smith" had been in the records, I would have searched in some other town, although I was certain he was buried in Myrtle Creek. Charles Dailey ---- >I have listed this type as Unknown ,"Our Babies" > alphabetically and then in my date column say... >No date, in the information column >I would say, No surname listed.... >Include any helpful info about the positioning of the >stone, something that might help determine which >family they might be in. > >Usually there is no clue and I am tempted to omit these.. > >I would like to hear someone else's opinion on this one. > >Maggie

    11/03/1999 01:11:57
    1. [WA-CEM] new cemeteries online
    2. Hello, Sunday evening six new cemeteries went online in the Washington Cemetery Project and the WA GenWeb Archives, in Chelan, Douglas, King, and Pierce Counties. This makes quite a few new cemeteries online within the past 2 weeks. The new cemeteries now online: Chelan County: Indian Burial Grounds, Manson Mt. Olivet, Chelan Riverview, Chelan Stemilt Hill Cowlitz County: Jackson, Castle Rock Douglas County: Gate of Heaven (updated) Jameson Mountain View Abbey (updated) Franklin County: Sulphur-Estes Gray's Harbor County: Sharon, Porter King County: Pioneer Slaughter, Auburn Lewis County: Lone Hill Napavine St. Urban Lincoln County: Egypt (Reinbold) (Ten Lincoln County cemeteries added during October) Pierce County: Anderson Island Mahon Family, Spanaway Old Settlers, Tacoma Trinity Lutheran, Parkland Whatcom County: Lummi Island Thank you, Kevin Fraley Director, Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm

    11/03/1999 11:38:21
    1. [WA-CEM] Are other states working on a similar cemetary project?
    2. Linda Bonneville
    3. Good morning, Kevin - Are all or most US states working on a similar cemetary project as we are in Washington? I have out-of-state relatives who are interested in getting involved in their state's project. I looked at http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb but couldn't get beyond that path into "cemetary". Thanks, Linda Hi Linda, I am answering on the list because I earlier published the wrong URL there. We are the Washington branch of the USGW Tombstone Transcription Project, which is active in every state. There is a great deal of information on the website, which is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/ I am sorry I gave out the wrong address. I urge everyone to take a look at the national project, which links to every state, and has information and a signup form for each state. Kevin Fraley

    11/02/1999 12:34:33