I have to take the time to say to Emma - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for posting this info on our mailing list. I have "burst" through one of my biggest "brick walls", thanks to this info. For the last several years, I have been trying to find out where my husband's great grandparents died and were buried in Iowa. They moved across the state from east to west over a 20 year period, which, of course, included the missing 1890 census time frame, and could have died in any one of many counties. In every research library I visit, I always check any Iowa cemetery books they have, but have never had any luck. I went to this ancestry.com site, plugged in the name, and found them both - in a county I would have never thought to check. I think posting this type of information on our mailing list so that everyone on the list has access to it is a great way to utilize the list. A second bit of info for those interested in the Draper Manuscripts - while I was at the Tacoma Public Library today, I found that they do have a copy of The Guide to the Draper Manuscripts referred to by Laura Sparr in her presentation at last Saturday's meeting, but they do not have copies of the Calendars that she also referred to. Colleen Rockwell

My thanks to Emma, also!!!! I finally found my great-great grandparents and 2 of their sons! They were buried in a town that isn't on the Iowa map. Thanks for letting us know about the Iowa cemetery records on Ancestry.com. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Coanrock@aol.com> To: <WA-SKGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [WASKCGS-L] IOWA CEMETERY RECORDS > I have to take the time to say to Emma - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for > posting this info on our mailing list. I have "burst" through one of my > biggest "brick walls", thanks to this info. For the last several years, I > have been trying to find out where my husband's great grandparents died and > were buried in Iowa. They moved across the state from east to west over a 20 > year period, which, of course, included the missing 1890 census time frame, > and could have died in any one of many counties. In every research library I > visit, I always check any Iowa cemetery books they have, but have never had > any luck. I went to this ancestry.com site, plugged in the name, and found > them both - in a county I would have never thought to check. I think posting > this type of information on our mailing list so that everyone on the list has > access to it is a great way to utilize the list. > > A second bit of info for those interested in the Draper Manuscripts - while I > was at the Tacoma Public Library today, I found that they do have a copy of > The Guide to the Draper Manuscripts referred to by Laura Sparr in her > presentation at last Saturday's meeting, but they do not have copies of the > Calendars that she also referred to. > > Colleen Rockwell >

There is a copy of the book "Guide to the Draper Manuscripts" by Josephine Harper in the collection at Auburn Library, too. Call number is R978.02/HAR Barbara

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I do not have an interest in surnames in SKAGS as i am a transplant 51 years ago. I am now so old that I am housebound most of the time. But I would like to e-mail, back and forth, to anyone interested in the east coast from MA to NJ to OH to midwest to WA who understands computers well enough to be of an assistance when I get lost, which is often. Any takers?? Estelene

Hello! This is just a reminder that our next meeting is this Saturday, October 21st. For those of you who checked out books, tapes or CDs, please remember to bring them with you! Thank you!

Estelene - It wasn't Phyllis that was going to send you those, it was me. I still have them (I do, really...), I've just momentarily stored them somewhere where I can't locate them. Hate to admit that, but there it is... When I find them (hopefully in the next few days now that it's been brought to mind again), I'll get them in the mail to you. I'm sorry for the delay, but my life has been even more hectic than normal (people that know me on this list are laughing their heads off about now...), so I haven't had spare time for anything besides events that are constantly staring me in the face. That conference seems like a long, long, long time ago! :-) Mary Kozy

I follow the news of the members and enjoy it very much. However I have been laid up lately having spent 4 days in Auburn General and 7 in rehab at Living Care Center. If I seem slow I am. I think Phyllis Haynen was always going to send me notes or a tape on speaches made by Leland Meitzler at the rally this late fall. Either she forgot or they became misplaced in the mail. Will someone there please tell her? Hate to be a nag but I especially wanted to hear what Leland had to say. Estelene Lapinski, 12006 SE 270th St., Kent, WA. 98031

At the Saturday meeting, after the business meeting and before we start our program is when I ask if the Chairpersons or anyone has any questions. If you have a society question or genealogy question, please ask. Maybe we'll have a quick answer or someone after the meeting can help you. If anything, it will be a good program for another meeting. We have two topics of interest from the last couple days on this list. Organizing Family History and creating Web Pages. We have a Computer Interest Group that may have a presentation on creating Web Pages. The Computer Interest Group meets the 3rd Tuesday of every month. Maybe there is a possibility somebody could do a presentation on Web Pages at a Saturday meeting. As Cathy said, we need to be meeting the needs of group. This is why we need more volunteers. On our About SKCGS page http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/about_SKCGS.html it says Our purpose is to: Stimulate interest in genealogy and aid individual members in compiling their family records. Seek genealogical and historical knowledge. Preserve and perpetuate the records of our ancestors. Promote the preservation of public and private genealogical materials. This is all from the volunteer efforts of the members of SKCGS. We have an interest for various interest groups, too. There are many more opportunities. Nobody needs to be an expert, just have an interest. I understand about time. I have a full-time job and I'm taking various Web classes after hours. If you can find a little time here or there to help your society member, you will be very appreciated. Phyllis -- E-Mail: phaynen@gte.net Manitoba, Canada GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ County Down, Ireland GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow/ Poinsett Co., Arkansas USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~arpoinse/ Phyllis' Family Genealogy http://home1.gte.net/phaynen/tree.htm

Bill, Read the Web page about the WA-SKGS-L Mailing List. http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/maillist.html Especially Section B. Purpose of the list. If you do not have an interest in the South King County Genealogical Society, I suggest unsubscribing from the list. We have a Computer Interest Group and other members of the society that help members with internet research. Phyllis Haynen WA-SKGS-L Listowner SKCGS President Bill Cribbs wrote: > > Hi all, > The WebWide Surname Locator is really helping folks find their surnames on > the web! The URL is at http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/surnames/ > > If you have a surname that is also a common English word such as BEACH, DAY, > PAGE, or BRIDGES, your search with the popular search engines are > frustrating. This search engine focuses JUST on surnames. > Hope it helps! > Bill and Tina > WebWide Surname Locator > http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/surnames/ > Obituary Links Page > http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ > Obituary Archive Search Engine > http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ > Local Obituary Search Engines > http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/other.htm > Family Surname Obituary Archives > http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/famobit.htm > Canadian Obituary Links Page > http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/canada.htm > CemSEARCH > http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ > ShipSEARCH > http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/ > Historical & Genealogical Societies of the United States > http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/hs/ -- E-Mail: phaynen@gte.net Manitoba, Canada GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ County Down, Ireland GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow/ Poinsett Co., Arkansas USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~arpoinse/ Phyllis' Family Genealogy http://home1.gte.net/phaynen/tree.htm

Thank you Rebecca for adding to the list of those who are experiencing the same problem. It makes me feel better to realize others find themselves with the same dilemma. I kept telling myself that I should have anticipated the problem and figured it out from the beginning. I thought my Family Treemaker Program would neatly print everything out; I would simply 3 hole punch and put the pages in waiting notebooks. Ha! Another thing: Sometimes I just want to ask a question while I'm dealing with a specific problem. Most SKCGS meetings aren't the place to get answers to specific questions unrelated to the days topic. Here's an example: My aunt in Romania gave me some original church records (one from 1825). I've taken many photo copies of it and the others.... but: Should I laminate the original for future generations? Is that the best way to preserve it? Maybe another way of thinking would be, what the heck, I've got a lot of copies now, so what's the difference if future generations see the original or a copy. Same with vintage photos. I can make a digital that's better than the original vintage photo and a digital of a digital does not lose clarity like a copy of a copy. Well, these are some things I think of as I plow through boxes of wonderful stuff feeling overwhelmed, but determined to organize each individual thing. Do we have a computer way to ask a specific question to our members so we can learn from those who have already come up with good answers to the kookiest questions? Shirley Taylor

Hi Shirley and list members, I think your questions are good ones!!!!.... I do disagree about asking them at the monthly meeting. We do usually have a planned program but I think that we should try and have a few minutes that members with questions or concerns can ask those questions or ask for help on a specific project. We also shouldn't be shy about asking questions. Always remember no question is a dumb question and very probably someone else may be wanting help in that same area. Not all of the members have computers and certainly some of the more experienced researchers may be among those who do not. Phyllis is a part of this list so I would ask her at this time to allot a few minutes before we end our business meetings to ask if members at the meeting have specific questions they'd like to talk about and maybe those questions could lead to a program if enough members seemed to be having the same questions, concerns etc. I know Colleen would welcome program suggestions. We need to be meeting the needs of the group. Cathy Wooden SATMM@aol.com wrote: > Thank you Rebecca for adding to the list of those who are experiencing the > same problem. It makes me feel better to realize others find themselves with > the same dilemma. I kept telling myself that I should have anticipated the > problem and figured it out from the beginning. I thought my Family Treemaker > Program would neatly print everything out; I would simply 3 hole punch and > put the pages in waiting notebooks. > Ha! > > Another thing: Sometimes I just want to ask a question while I'm dealing > with a specific problem. Most SKCGS meetings aren't the place to get answers > to specific questions unrelated to the days topic. Here's an example: My > aunt in Romania gave me some original church records (one from 1825). I've > taken many photo copies of it and the others.... but: Should I laminate the > original for future generations? Is that the best way to preserve it? Maybe > another way of thinking would be, what the heck, I've got a lot of copies > now, so what's the difference if future generations see the original or a > copy. > > Same with vintage photos. I can make a digital that's better than the > original vintage photo and a digital of a digital does not lose clarity like > a copy of a copy. Well, these are some things I think of as I plow through > boxes of wonderful stuff feeling overwhelmed, but determined to organize each > individual thing. > > Do we have a computer way to ask a specific question to our members so we > can learn from those who have already come up with good answers to the > kookiest questions? Shirley Taylor

Hi all, The WebWide Surname Locator is really helping folks find their surnames on the web! The URL is at http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/surnames/ If you have a surname that is also a common English word such as BEACH, DAY, PAGE, or BRIDGES, your search with the popular search engines are frustrating. This search engine focuses JUST on surnames. Hope it helps! Bill and Tina WebWide Surname Locator http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/surnames/ Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Obituary Archive Search Engine http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ Local Obituary Search Engines http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/other.htm Family Surname Obituary Archives http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/famobit.htm Canadian Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/canada.htm CemSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ ShipSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/ Historical & Genealogical Societies of the United States http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/hs/

Hello Listers: I am new to the list, I was going through my stuff also and bewildered at the amount of stuff I have gathered in just a few years. I too am interested in the subject. Maybe we can also discuss ways to present Web Pages? <g> Thank-you Rebecca Wells Olachea http://rolacheatepee.homestead.com/OlacheaHomePage.html http://olachealine.homestead.com/Olachealine.html http://olacheawellsconnection.homestead.com/WellsOlacheaConnection.html e-mail: rolachea@mindspring.com SURNAMES: Barstow, Blaylock, Burnham, Coleman, Comstock, Duran, Escobar, Fletcher, Fraley, Grijalva, Leyva, Mailey, (Maley(?), Melitone, Morales, Olachea, Olavarria, Provencio, Santerre, Segura, St. Pierre, Torres, Vallejo, Velasquez, Wartenbe and Wells ----- Original Message ----- From: <WA-SKGS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WA-SKGS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: WA-SKGS-D Digest V00 #50

Thank you Trish. I'll try to get it this Saturday. I definitely need guidance. Shirley

Shirley, you might want to get a copy of 'Managing a Genealogical Project' by Dollarhide. We probably have it on the book sale table. If not, Susan can order a copy for you. Hope it helps. Trish

On the survey, 5 respondents said they like to volunteer for Genealogy Classes. Would you like to be the Chairperson for this opportunity? You have 5 volunteers to help. Auburn Library would like us to hold some classes, too. Phyllis -- E-Mail: phaynen@gte.net Manitoba, Canada GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ County Down, Ireland GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow/ Poinsett Co., Arkansas USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~arpoinse/ Phyllis' Family Genealogy http://home1.gte.net/phaynen/tree.htm

Colleen Rockwell, our Program Chairperson, can receive program suggestions. On our SKCGS Web Site, About Us page http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/about_SKCGS.html lists the Society Officers and Committee Chairs. Click on Colleen's name to send her an e-mail. Phyllis -- E-Mail: phaynen@gte.net Manitoba, Canada GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/ County Down, Ireland GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow/ Poinsett Co., Arkansas USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~arpoinse/ Phyllis' Family Genealogy http://home1.gte.net/phaynen/tree.htm

ME THREE!!!!!!! (My genealogy is starting to take over my house!!!!) :-) Hey Char, should you and I give it a go? ;-) They say that those who teach learn the most! LOL! Mary Charlotte Kibbie wrote: > Hi Shirley, (and others)- > I am in the process of finally physically organizing all my family > history collection(30+ years worth). I know where things are but no one else > would be able to retrieve specific items. Over the years I have lost items > that I have loaned and never had returned. Now I am much more careful, even > with things that are replacable. > I have my system for research and documents for my mother's traditional > side of the family but am still looking for a better way to organize > patronymic records, photos and memorabilia. I am weeding through my hard > copy file and "discarding" (they're still in my database and backups) the > generations of peripheral lines that have not tied in. I am not buying more > file cabinets just to hold stuff I do not use. I want the family history to > be a blessing and not a curse that will cause frustration and discouragement > and get tossed when I go. > This is a project I have thought about for a long time (yes, years!) but > just started earlier this month, Oct. 2000, devoting 30-60 min. each day to > working on it. And all that shows is a little dent. The sign in my work area > still applies - "Please don't mess with my mess". > Yes, I'd be interested in this group/ or discussion. > -Char Kibbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: SATMM@aol.com <SATMM@aol.com> > To: WA-SKGS-L@rootsweb.com <WA-SKGS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: [WASKCGS-L] SKCGS Interest Groups > > >Hi Phyllis, This is a subject I'd like to hear addressed. I am first > >generation American and the genealogist for the entire family. We know who > >every individual is and where they are located. I am returning to (what's > >now Romania) to gather more documents and memorabilia from the church, my > >living aunt, and our peoples homes whose house numbers are on the church > >records and are still standing, frozen in time. > > > > I now have many boxes of documents, photos, emails, memorabilia including > >important historical artifacts. A piece of tile from the roof of my gr. > >grandfathers church in Frauendorf Transylvania; an official military > booklet > >documenting my uncles route locations through W.W.I in the German Army as > >they fought the Russian Army and similar items. > > > >I am now being invited to yearly family reunions and picnics in Montana and > >Oregon. I feel like I have a mini museum which could be a traveling event > >when I go. It's a huge cataloging job which I am willing to do. At his > >point, I'm focusing on the hundreds of photos, recent and vintage. Of > >course many family members want copies. > > > >I think I should be keeping a log of everything I do because various family > >members begin emailing me with additional information about a specific > person > >(usually dead) and I'm pulled from one person to another and forget who or > >what I was working on before. I would like to hear an ongoing discussion > >about practical ways of organizing a huge collection of things and > >information (and misinformation). I can't believe I'm the only genealogist > >that gets overwhelmed with how to organize an out of control project. > > > >Thanks for any consideration of this dilemma. Shirley Taylor > >

Well, folks, I just called the Fairwood Library to see how many were signed up for my Beginning Genealogy Class on Wed. and Fri. of this week (10 a.m. - 12 noon each day), and we have a whopping 2! If any of you have friends or relations that might be interested in learning more about family history and are available to come in the late morning, please let them know about the class, as I'd love to have more students! As it stands, those 2 students are going to get TONS of one-on-one help! :-) Mary Kozy