I am the same as Doris. I did not get any notice about Friday night. No need, I am busy also. Just wanted to be asked to whatever. Just kidding, hope you all have fun doing whatever. Nancy Edwards ( L. that is)

Well Friday Night 24 genealogists from EWGS will be taking pledges for KSPS, so if you can spare a moment at least watch to see if you recognize anyone. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nancilu2@aol.com> To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: [EWGS] Re: WA-EWGS-D Digest V04 #67 > I am the same as Doris. I did not get any notice about Friday night. No > need, I am busy also. Just wanted to be asked to whatever. Just kidding, hope > you all have fun doing whatever. > Nancy Edwards ( L. that is) > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > January 8, 2005 Luncheon >

No, Charles, I didn't get any reminder about Friday night. What is happening on Friday night? And I'm afraid I'm not available, as I have scads of company this week, many of whom I haven't seen for a couple of years. Sorry if I've goofed up somewhere. Doris

Did everyone get the reminder for Friday Night?? See you there. Charles

I am going to hi speed internet with msn sometime after Friday of this week. I will keep aol for a month during the transition period. After that my e-mail address will be flbaker31@msn.com. Love to hear from all of you. Frances

Donna No that name does not ring a bell, but then I have never been good at remembering names. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Phillips" <donnapp@earthlink.net> To: "EWGS LIST" <WA-EWGS-D@rootsweb.com>; "Topp Bette" <toppline@comcast.net>; "Thompson Wally" <phantom2@omnicast.net>; "Oakes Shirley Penna" <firebugvw@peoplepc.com>; "Mielbrecht Pat" <pbmielbrecht@earthlink.net>; "McCreary Lola" <lamccreary@comcast.net>; "Huber Bobbi" <b.r.huber@worldnet.att.net>; "Horrocks Mabel" <slinkard@dc4pc.net>; "Hire," <hireiwasa01@msn.com>; "Braun Rosemary" <rosemaryhb@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: Alfred Gray > Does anybody besides me remebmer Alfred Gray? > > He was an EWGS member a while back....his obit is in the paper today. > > Donna > > > > > > Donna Potter Phillips > Spokane, WA > donnapp@earthlink.net > "Mr. President, there is no invisible legacy." (West Wing) >

Does anybody besides me remebmer Alfred Gray? He was an EWGS member a while back....his obit is in the paper today. Donna Donna Potter Phillips Spokane, WA donnapp@earthlink.net "Mr. President, there is no invisible legacy." (West Wing)

Interesting reading Bette, but the only ones it applies to is my dad and his brother and they are still living. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette Butcher Topp" <toppline@comcast.net> To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: [EWGS] A tip on military > I received this from my WV list - thought it was worth sharing. > > > I received an email update from the Air Force Association. Among other things they had a short paragraph indicating that "U.S. Government officials have decided to preserve the personnel files of every military member since 1885, and to allow public access to such records 62 years after official discharge or separation." There is an article in Stars and Stripes which > gives more details. To read the article, go to the following link. > _http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=22353&archive =true_ > (http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=22353&archive =true) > > > According to Stars and Stripes; it will take about ten years to make all of the records available to the public, but some Marine & Sailors records going back to World War I will be available by this fall. > > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > October 12 US Military Research > Revolutionary War Doris Woodward >

I received this from my WV list - thought it was worth sharing. I received an email update from the Air Force Association. Among other things they had a short paragraph indicating that "U.S. Government officials have decided to preserve the personnel files of every military member since 1885, and to allow public access to such records 62 years after official discharge or separation." There is an article in Stars and Stripes which gives more details. To read the article, go to the following link. _http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=22353&archive=true_ (http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=22353&archive=true) According to Stars and Stripes; it will take about ten years to make all of the records available to the public, but some Marine & Sailors records going back to World War I will be available by this fall.

The city has posted the Priorities of Government survey results online now at: http://www.spokanecity.org/services/articles/?ArticleID=1080 The Library is in the Growth and Learning section for those that did not take the survey. Charles

Received this from a cousin in West Virginia, who got interested in genealogy after I picked her brain on one of the Family Trees I was working on, thought you might agree. I didn't write the poem, but have often had the same thoughts when tromping through these old cemeteries where my ancestors are buried. I'm sure you probably have too. Anna Mae Dear Ancestor Your tombstone stands among the rest Neglected and alone The name and date are chiselled out On polished marble stone It reaches out to all who care It is too late to mourn You did not know that I exist You died and I was born Yet each of us are cells of you In flesh and blood and bone Our blood contracts and beats a pulse Entirely not our own Dear Ancestor..the place you filled One hundred years ago Spreads out among the ones you left Who would have loved you so I wonder if you lived and loved I wonder if you knew That someday I would find this spot And come to visit you. Author Unknown

I agree with what you say, Marshall. I have looked over your book on Farmington and found it to be exceptional. And the most important thing is that you have put that information out there for all future genealogists and historians to be able to see it. If we all did that, can you imagine how the next several generations would be saying - how lucky we all are that our greats thought far ahead and made sure that we could get their stories. Thanks for the note and I do appreciate what you have done. Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Shore" <mbs@arias.net> To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [EWGS] Thought this was interesting! > Betty - Your message comes through very clear. That is what I have done in > writing the history of my home town and my family where I was born in 1916 > near Farmington and grew up there. My mother was born and grew up there. > My grandfather came there in 1880 in a wagon to homestead. He was one year > old when he came across the Oregon Trail with his father, and grandfather > and cousins in 1853. I have a full history of that family as well as > several others. At my age I am thankful I have been able to do these things > before I became too old to work any more. That time will be approaching > soon. > I was able to acquire the information of the Belshaw family Oregon Trail > experiences and succeeded in getting the two diaries that were written by > two members of the family on that trip edited by a Professor of History at > the University of Nabraska at Omaha. The book was published by Ye Galleon > Press at Fairfield in 2000. I was able to purchase many copies of that > book, "Crossing the Plains to Oregon in 1853", and am now getting these put > in archives and libraries all along this route and in Oregon and Washington > where these famlies now live. This is one great book. You would be excited > to read it. > Marshall Belshaw Shore > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bette Butcher Topp" <toppline@comcast.net> > To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:14 PM > Subject: [EWGS] Thought this was interesting! > > > > The Case for Documenting Yourself: by Jeff Scism - was in Rootsweb > > Review 1999 [I have taken the liberty of shortening the article] > > > > "The search for personal history and its relationship to our > > personal lives makes history come alive. The lesson of genealogy isn't > > simply a knowledge of what happened in the past, but also what we know > > about our present. In the future, the history documented and saved for > > future reference will be the known events of our contemporary past. Our > > views from the end of the 20th century will be a classical perspective > > at the end of the 21st century. > > To put this concept in perspective, think about your family research > > and the documentation you find about your 19th century ancestors. How > > does that information impact the data you are saving about the lives of > > the members of your current family? To research the past and store that > > information for easy future retrieval will be the legacy of today's > > genealogist/hstorian. But a greater legacy will be the way we store > > information about ourselves. Making the research of our family's past a > > priority now but failing to document our own involvement in current > > history is to shortchange the future. > > How many of us have an ancestor's actual autobiography written in > > his or her own hand? How many of us can say we "know" these ancestors? > > Right now you are a family historian studying the lives of all who came > > before you. Are you documenting your own life in a "hard" form for the > > genealogists of the future, so that in the year 2100 your > > great-great-grandchildren will be able to say they "know" you? > > Documenting your life the way you would want your ancestors to be > > documented is the first step to being the person your descendants will > > know from the past, and a journal of your thoughts on current events > > will be a marker and a reference valuable to many, not just your > > descendants. > > What I would like to add after retrospect is that fewer people are > > writing ON paper. And as we all know, the electronic documents we work > > with everyday can vanish in an instant, and be forever lost. > > BACK UP your data, all of it, onto a CD (or multiple copies) and > > store it away from your computer, your home and in a safe place when it > > will still be known to be if something tragic happens and by all means, > > mention it in your will. > > Remember your working notes tell an important story, your FINISHED > > sections should be clearly findable and PRINTED OUT! > > So make sure that the work survives to be passed on to the next > > generation, who hopefully will continue it." > > ~~~~~ > > I know that we all intend to write our own story and save it for the > > next couple generations but we need to be serious about it. Maybe you > > can start being serious during this summer. > > > > Bette > > -- > > > > The new email address is now: toppline@comcast.net************ > > > > *****Hope you will visit my homepage: > > http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/homepage.htm > > > > You can find my ahnentafel chart at > > http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/antafl.htm > > > > > > > > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > > October 12 US Military Research > > Revolutionary War Doris Woodward > > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > November 9 US Military Research > War of 1812 Shirley Penna-Oakes >

Betty - Your message comes through very clear. That is what I have done in writing the history of my home town and my family where I was born in 1916 near Farmington and grew up there. My mother was born and grew up there. My grandfather came there in 1880 in a wagon to homestead. He was one year old when he came across the Oregon Trail with his father, and grandfather and cousins in 1853. I have a full history of that family as well as several others. At my age I am thankful I have been able to do these things before I became too old to work any more. That time will be approaching soon. I was able to acquire the information of the Belshaw family Oregon Trail experiences and succeeded in getting the two diaries that were written by two members of the family on that trip edited by a Professor of History at the University of Nabraska at Omaha. The book was published by Ye Galleon Press at Fairfield in 2000. I was able to purchase many copies of that book, "Crossing the Plains to Oregon in 1853", and am now getting these put in archives and libraries all along this route and in Oregon and Washington where these famlies now live. This is one great book. You would be excited to read it. Marshall Belshaw Shore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette Butcher Topp" <toppline@comcast.net> To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: [EWGS] Thought this was interesting! > The Case for Documenting Yourself: by Jeff Scism - was in Rootsweb > Review 1999 [I have taken the liberty of shortening the article] > > "The search for personal history and its relationship to our > personal lives makes history come alive. The lesson of genealogy isn't > simply a knowledge of what happened in the past, but also what we know > about our present. In the future, the history documented and saved for > future reference will be the known events of our contemporary past. Our > views from the end of the 20th century will be a classical perspective > at the end of the 21st century. > To put this concept in perspective, think about your family research > and the documentation you find about your 19th century ancestors. How > does that information impact the data you are saving about the lives of > the members of your current family? To research the past and store that > information for easy future retrieval will be the legacy of today's > genealogist/hstorian. But a greater legacy will be the way we store > information about ourselves. Making the research of our family's past a > priority now but failing to document our own involvement in current > history is to shortchange the future. > How many of us have an ancestor's actual autobiography written in > his or her own hand? How many of us can say we "know" these ancestors? > Right now you are a family historian studying the lives of all who came > before you. Are you documenting your own life in a "hard" form for the > genealogists of the future, so that in the year 2100 your > great-great-grandchildren will be able to say they "know" you? > Documenting your life the way you would want your ancestors to be > documented is the first step to being the person your descendants will > know from the past, and a journal of your thoughts on current events > will be a marker and a reference valuable to many, not just your > descendants. > What I would like to add after retrospect is that fewer people are > writing ON paper. And as we all know, the electronic documents we work > with everyday can vanish in an instant, and be forever lost. > BACK UP your data, all of it, onto a CD (or multiple copies) and > store it away from your computer, your home and in a safe place when it > will still be known to be if something tragic happens and by all means, > mention it in your will. > Remember your working notes tell an important story, your FINISHED > sections should be clearly findable and PRINTED OUT! > So make sure that the work survives to be passed on to the next > generation, who hopefully will continue it." > ~~~~~ > I know that we all intend to write our own story and save it for the > next couple generations but we need to be serious about it. Maybe you > can start being serious during this summer. > > Bette > -- > > The new email address is now: toppline@comcast.net************ > > *****Hope you will visit my homepage: > http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/homepage.htm > > You can find my ahnentafel chart at > http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/antafl.htm > > > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > October 12 US Military Research > Revolutionary War Doris Woodward

Bette That is good advice. Last time I went on a research trip I printed out a book from my genealogical program, and it had all I had found on my family in the area we were going to down to me and how to get in touch with me. That way I had all the names and dates handy while I was researching, and when we left the library for the last time I donated the book to the library there. So that part of my research is in the library in Illinois. I have also donated to the Wadena library in Minnesota. So I hope my research will always be available. Charles -----Original Message----- From: Bette Butcher Topp <toppline@comcast.net> To: WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:15 PM Subject: [EWGS] Thought this was interesting! >The Case for Documenting Yourself: by Jeff Scism - was in Rootsweb >Review 1999 [I have taken the liberty of shortening the article] > > "The search for personal history and its relationship to our >personal lives makes history come alive. The lesson of genealogy isn't >simply a knowledge of what happened in the past, but also what we know >about our present. In the future, the history documented and saved for >future reference will be the known events of our contemporary past. Our >views from the end of the 20th century will be a classical perspective >at the end of the 21st century. > To put this concept in perspective, think about your family research >and the documentation you find about your 19th century ancestors. How >does that information impact the data you are saving about the lives of >the members of your current family? To research the past and store that >information for easy future retrieval will be the legacy of today's >genealogist/hstorian. But a greater legacy will be the way we store >information about ourselves. Making the research of our family's past a >priority now but failing to document our own involvement in current >history is to shortchange the future. > How many of us have an ancestor's actual autobiography written in >his or her own hand? How many of us can say we "know" these ancestors? >Right now you are a family historian studying the lives of all who came >before you. Are you documenting your own life in a "hard" form for the >genealogists of the future, so that in the year 2100 your >great-great-grandchildren will be able to say they "know" you? > Documenting your life the way you would want your ancestors to be >documented is the first step to being the person your descendants will >know from the past, and a journal of your thoughts on current events >will be a marker and a reference valuable to many, not just your >descendants. > What I would like to add after retrospect is that fewer people are >writing ON paper. And as we all know, the electronic documents we work >with everyday can vanish in an instant, and be forever lost. > BACK UP your data, all of it, onto a CD (or multiple copies) and >store it away from your computer, your home and in a safe place when it >will still be known to be if something tragic happens and by all means, >mention it in your will. > Remember your working notes tell an important story, your FINISHED >sections should be clearly findable and PRINTED OUT! >So make sure that the work survives to be passed on to the next >generation, who hopefully will continue it." >~~~~~ >I know that we all intend to write our own story and save it for the >next couple generations but we need to be serious about it. Maybe you >can start being serious during this summer. > >Bette >-- > > The new email address is now: toppline@comcast.net************ > >*****Hope you will visit my homepage: >http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/homepage.htm > > You can find my ahnentafel chart at >http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/antafl.htm > > > > >==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== >October 12 US Military Research >Revolutionary War Doris Woodward >

The Case for Documenting Yourself: by Jeff Scism - was in Rootsweb Review 1999 [I have taken the liberty of shortening the article] "The search for personal history and its relationship to our personal lives makes history come alive. The lesson of genealogy isn't simply a knowledge of what happened in the past, but also what we know about our present. In the future, the history documented and saved for future reference will be the known events of our contemporary past. Our views from the end of the 20th century will be a classical perspective at the end of the 21st century. To put this concept in perspective, think about your family research and the documentation you find about your 19th century ancestors. How does that information impact the data you are saving about the lives of the members of your current family? To research the past and store that information for easy future retrieval will be the legacy of today's genealogist/hstorian. But a greater legacy will be the way we store information about ourselves. Making the research of our family's past a priority now but failing to document our own involvement in current history is to shortchange the future. How many of us have an ancestor's actual autobiography written in his or her own hand? How many of us can say we "know" these ancestors? Right now you are a family historian studying the lives of all who came before you. Are you documenting your own life in a "hard" form for the genealogists of the future, so that in the year 2100 your great-great-grandchildren will be able to say they "know" you? Documenting your life the way you would want your ancestors to be documented is the first step to being the person your descendants will know from the past, and a journal of your thoughts on current events will be a marker and a reference valuable to many, not just your descendants. What I would like to add after retrospect is that fewer people are writing ON paper. And as we all know, the electronic documents we work with everyday can vanish in an instant, and be forever lost. BACK UP your data, all of it, onto a CD (or multiple copies) and store it away from your computer, your home and in a safe place when it will still be known to be if something tragic happens and by all means, mention it in your will. Remember your working notes tell an important story, your FINISHED sections should be clearly findable and PRINTED OUT! So make sure that the work survives to be passed on to the next generation, who hopefully will continue it." ~~~~~ I know that we all intend to write our own story and save it for the next couple generations but we need to be serious about it. Maybe you can start being serious during this summer. Bette -- The new email address is now: toppline@comcast.net************ *****Hope you will visit my homepage: http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/homepage.htm You can find my ahnentafel chart at http://home.comcast.net/~toppline/antafl.htm

THANK YOU CHARLES - I WILL GO OUT THIS WEEK AND HAVE A LOOK. MARSHALL SHORE ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles_hansen" <charles_hansen@prodigy.net> To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:15 PM Subject: [EWGS] Regional Archives Open > Got this note from Susan Beamer today: > > We are still completing a few 'fixing up' items, like the carpet, but > we can serve researchers around those issues. We've had several > people drop in and that has been great. The official opening for the > entire building is in Oct. Here is the link to the Secretary of > State's press release about the opening: > http://www.secstate.wa.gov/archives/news/eastern_20040614.aspx > > Here is a link to a map site that shows where we are on EWU campus: > http://www.ewu.edu/new/maptours/home.html. We are between the Red > Barn and the playing fields/tennis courts. Our new address is 960 > Washington St and our temporary phone is 235-1519. There is a great > big stone sign out front and plenty of parking. No appointment is > necessary! Susan Beamer > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > November 6, 2004 Book Auction >

Got this note from Susan Beamer today: We are still completing a few 'fixing up' items, like the carpet, but we can serve researchers around those issues. We've had several people drop in and that has been great. The official opening for the entire building is in Oct. Here is the link to the Secretary of State's press release about the opening: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/archives/news/eastern_20040614.aspx Here is a link to a map site that shows where we are on EWU campus: http://www.ewu.edu/new/maptours/home.html. We are between the Red Barn and the playing fields/tennis courts. Our new address is 960 Washington St and our temporary phone is 235-1519. There is a great big stone sign out front and plenty of parking. No appointment is necessary! Susan Beamer

The City of Spokane is having budget problems, and they face a $5+ million shortfall or about a 5% cut in all services. Some of the departments have said they can not afford a 5% cut as they have already cut everything possible. This survey is to find out the citizens input on which is the most important services and which to fund. It is called Priorities of Government or POG. Now I know most of this is not related to genealogy, but one of the departments is very important to genealogists; and especially to EWGS the library. http://www.spokanecity.org/government/pog/survey/ Charles

Sheila I have not been able to locate these Sup Files, the Auditor does not have them, although the Auditor has all the other early birth records. My speculation is that they are either delayed birth records or adoptions. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Thayer" <sthayer@u.washington.edu> To: <WA-EWGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:41 AM Subject: [EWGS] Birth information > I am trying to locate information regarding the birth of Mirth Mcarthur. > I have located records listing Beryl MacArthur and Mirth MacArthur with > father listed as Dan'l J MacArthur. I do know that this is the brother > of my ggrandfather James W Mcarthur and the father of Mirth. It looks > like there was alternate spellings of the last name. > > The information on Mirths Spokane County Birth Index says "see sup. file > # 909" can someone find that record and let me know what it says? > Mirth was born July 18 1903. Mother was Helen Sharp. There were several > other children born to this family. I found them in Kootenai (spelling) > Idaho around 1920. > > > Thanks > sheila > sthayer@u.washington.edu > > > ==== WA-EWGS Mailing List ==== > December 4th Show and Tell >

I am trying to locate information regarding the birth of Mirth Mcarthur. I have located records listing Beryl MacArthur and Mirth MacArthur with father listed as Dan'l J MacArthur. I do know that this is the brother of my ggrandfather James W Mcarthur and the father of Mirth. It looks like there was alternate spellings of the last name. The information on Mirths Spokane County Birth Index says "see sup. file # 909" can someone find that record and let me know what it says? Mirth was born July 18 1903. Mother was Helen Sharp. There were several other children born to this family. I found them in Kootenai (spelling) Idaho around 1920. Thanks sheila sthayer@u.washington.edu