From "Hartland in the Revolutionary War" by Dennis Flowers: John Flower, the father of Elisha. The Flowers came from Hartford, Conn. at the early settlement of the town, in exactly what year is not known. They made their first pitch on what was afterward the Parson Breck farm, subsequently exchanging with someone who desired "improved" land, for the land now occupied by W. E. Davis......Shubel Lamphear, Hartland's blind showman once lived in the Artemas Beers house, the first house below W. E. Davis'......" This would indicate that the Flowers and Beers were next door neighbors. I believe this Elisha was a generations older than the one you are looking for since he fought in the Revolution. He died July 5, 1812 at age 56 and is buried in the Plain Cemetery in Hartland. > > > U ==== VTWINDSO Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb's Windsor County, Vermont Mailing List > Acceptable Use Policy at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

These particular folks were in Vermont, and probably came from western Massachusetts/Hartford, Connecticut as early settlers of CT. From postings I've seen, I believe many PA BEERS' families descend from the VT branches. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] Elisha FLOWERS or Artimas BEERS - Hartland, VT 1810-1820 > In a message dated 10/26/2002 2:07:32 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Caroline E. BEERS >> > > Did they come from Pennsylvania. I have seen that name many times from > Northampton and Luzerne County and know some researchers from that area. > > Marilyn - researching Wagners from PA > > > ==== VTWINDSO Mailing List ==== > "We dance round in a ring and suppose, > But the Secret sits in the middle and knows." > -- Robert Frost (He must have been a genealogist.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 10/26/2002 2:07:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Caroline E. BEERS >> Did they come from Pennsylvania. I have seen that name many times from Northampton and Luzerne County and know some researchers from that area. Marilyn - researching Wagners from PA

I was wondering if anyone on the list could help me identify the parents of either of the gentlemen above? They are two of my brick walls. Elisha had a daughter Mary FLOWERS who married Artimas BEERS. They had three children Caroline E., George W., and James Monroe. I descend through Caroline E. BEERS and David DEAN (son of Asa of Barnard). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just hooking up with cousins who want to compare notes. Regards, Jerry Jerry H. Lovejoy [email protected] Homepage of Jerry Lovejoy (Web God) http://home.attbi.com/~bennabre/ US GenWeb Page for North Andover, MA http://www.rootsweb.com/~macnando/ LOVEJOY Surname Mail List LOVEJOY-D is the digest mode, while LOVEJOY-L is the list mode which sends each message as it is posted. To subscribe to or unsubscribe from LOVEJOY-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command either "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" without the quotes, and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. The same works for LOVEJOY-L, send the command "subscribe" to [email protected] To contact the list administrator, send mail to [email protected]

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:20:55 -0400 Dorothy Goldman <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning listers, > > I am in need of the email address for both the > Springfield Library and the Springfield VT Town > Clerk. This is in preparation for a short > research trip to that area. > > Thank you in advance > Dot Hi, Dot: Springfield Library 43 Main Street Springfield, VT 05156 802-885-3108 Springfield Town Government Hartness Avenue Springfield, VT 05156 802-885-4545 I found the information by using AltaVista, which took me to: http://www.linkvermont.com/townsvill/springfield/areaservices.htm The above link may be wrapped to two lines. If so, you will have to paste it back together. Darrell [email protected]

Good morning listers, I am in need of the email address for both the Springfield Library and the Springfield VT Town Clerk. This is in preparation for a short research trip to that area. Thank you in advance Dot

Looks like it might be a good fit. Thanks Darrell Pat

Hi Darrell Can you look up Amos R. Wheeler? in your probate? This one please....Amos R. Wheeler and Lydia Adams Wheeler moved to St. Charles, Ill. around 1830 but he returned to Cavendish and died Jan. 13, 1835 while in Cavendish. There is an obit floating out there somewhere. Thanks, Pat

At 09:23 PM 10/24/02 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >Hi Darrell >Can you look up Amos R. Wheeler? in your probate? >This one please....Amos R. Wheeler and Lydia Adams Wheeler moved to St. >Charles, Ill. around 1830 but he returned to Cavendish and died Jan. 13, 1835 >while in Cavendish. There is an obit floating out there somewhere. >Thanks, Pat Hi, Pat: I don't know about any obituary, but here is a very hopeful index to a probate record: WHEELER, Amos, residence Cavendish, probate district Windsor, type Intestate, year 1835, volume 14 Hope this is a good match. Darrell Darrell Allen MARTIN a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois [email protected] www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

At 06:41 PM 10/24/02 -0400, barbara joy wrote: >THANKS DARRELL. I NEED ONE MORE , HERMANN BOUTELL, DIED 1905 IN ROCHESTER . >BARB >[snip] > > Philander died too late to be included (the index is through 1899). > > > > Darrell Hi, Barb: Same answer for Hermann as for Philander. The index is through 1899; a probate file for 1905 will not be included. Darrell Darrell Allen MARTIN a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois [email protected] www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

THANKS DARRELL. I NEED ONE MORE , HERMANN BOUTELL, DIED 1905 IN ROCHESTER . BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell A. Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] probate > At 04:14 PM 10/23/02 -0400, barbara joy wrote: > >Darrell, don't put the book away yet Would you look up Ephraim Baker- died > >1828, William Baker- died 1871, and Philander Baker- died 1915. Thanks so > >much . Barbara Baker Joy > > Hi, Barbara: > > There is one entry for an Ephraim, but his probate case was dated in 1867. > > There are three William entries, but these are the only likely two (the > other one is dated in 1891): > > BAKER, William O., residence Barnard, probate district Hartford, type > Guardianship of a minor, year 1852, volume 21 > BAKER, William, residence Rochester, probate district Hartford, type > Intestate, year 1871, volumes 30, 32 > > Philander died too late to be included (the index is through 1899). > > Darrell > > > Darrell Allen MARTIN > a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois > [email protected] www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/ > > > > ==== VTWINDSO Mailing List ==== > Until every victim's family is comforted > Until every terrorist is brought to justice > We will remember 9-11 -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks very much. I have identified all of these Slafter names except for Stephen as being children of Edmund Farwell Slafter. Thanks also for the information that these probate records are available at LDS Family History Centers. I'll see about ordering. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell A. Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] Slafter/Slater Probate records > At 07:00 PM 10/23/02 -0700, Jackie Ginn wrote: > >Darrell, > > > >Please look for these names in the Probate Records: > > > >John Slafter who died 8 Oct 1819 > > > >Sylvester Slafter who died 9 May 1850 > > > >It could be that either of them went by Slater rather than Slafter. I > >notice you said there are six Slafters and one Slater. As I am positive > >that all these belong to my family, if you could possibly tell me their > >first names I will verify where they fit in, and probably get back to you > >with a request for their records, too. > > > >Thanks so much! > > > >Jackie > > Hi, Jackie: > > No Sylvester under either spelling. However, there is this: > > SLAFTER, John, residence Norwich, probate district Hartford, type Testate, > year 1819, volume 6 > > Hope this is of use. The other first names are Alonzo, Bloomyfair [sic], > Edmund F. [you have this one], Emmaline, John [above], Solon, and Stephen. > All resided in Norwich or Bridgewater. > > Darrell > > > Darrell Allen MARTIN > a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois > [email protected] www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/ > > > > ==== VTWINDSO Mailing List ==== > There is a reasonable expectation that messages on this list > will have some connection with Windsor County, Vermont genealogy. > What that means is up to you. -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

At 10:37 PM 10/23/02 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >Where does someone obtain the probate records that Darrell is locating for >us ? Richard Van Wagenen Hi: Here is the general answer. However, the records have been microfilmed and can be viewed at any LDS Family History Center in the usual way. Windsor District Probate Court P.O. Box 402 North Springfield VT 05150 - Phone: (802) 886-2284 Hartford District Probate Court: On The Green Woodstock VT 05901 - Phone: (802) 457-1503 If anyone finds that there is an error in this information, *PLEASE* tell me. Darrell Darrell Allen MARTIN a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois [email protected] www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

At 07:00 PM 10/23/02 -0700, Jackie Ginn wrote: >Darrell, > >Please look for these names in the Probate Records: > >John Slafter who died 8 Oct 1819 > >Sylvester Slafter who died 9 May 1850 > >It could be that either of them went by Slater rather than Slafter. I >notice you said there are six Slafters and one Slater. As I am positive >that all these belong to my family, if you could possibly tell me their >first names I will verify where they fit in, and probably get back to you >with a request for their records, too. > >Thanks so much! > >Jackie Hi, Jackie: No Sylvester under either spelling. However, there is this: SLAFTER, John, residence Norwich, probate district Hartford, type Testate, year 1819, volume 6 Hope this is of use. The other first names are Alonzo, Bloomyfair [sic], Edmund F. [you have this one], Emmaline, John [above], Solon, and Stephen. All resided in Norwich or Bridgewater. Darrell Darrell Allen MARTIN a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois [email protected] www.darrell-martin.net/genealogy/

he would have been abt 31 yrs then... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Luce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] HOYT/HOIT > I have access to the 1810 census, and yes, I see James there listed > nextdoor to a William Hoit and not far from Abraham Hoit. They are all > 26-44 so it's very possible they are all brothers. > > What I have are HISTORY books, with some genealogies of longterm or > founding families included. They are by no means vital records. I would > suggest that you go to your Family History Center and order the > appropriate microfilms of the vital records of Royalton. > If you're not aware of the Family History Centers, go to > http://www.familysearch.org and click the Family History Library and > follow the prompts to find one near you. The friendly people there will > help you order the films, they usually cost about $3.50 each and take > 2-5 weeks to come in. > > Indexes to births, deaths, marriages 1762- 1945 > FHL US/CAN Film 982527 Items 1-2 > > Card index to vital records A-Darrow, J. 1857-1997 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079686 > > Card index to vital records Darrow, J.-I 1857-1997 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079687 > > Card index to vital records J.-Rogers, E. 1857-1997 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079688 > > Card index to vital records Rogers, E.-Z 1857-1997 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079689 > > Births, marriages, deaths v. 1, 9, 5 1762- 1868 > FHL US/CAN Film 28748 > > Births, marriages, deaths v. 19, 25 1857- 1883 > FHL US/CAN Film 982527 Items 3-4 > > Births & deaths v. 39 1884-1896 Births 1897-1932 Deaths v. 42 1897-1918 > VAULT US/CAN Film 2079779 > > Deaths 1903-1948 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079780 > > Deaths 1948-1997 Marriages v. 38 1883-1945 Marriages v. 40(p.1-77) 1897-1908 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079781 > > Marriages v. 40(p.77-end) 1905-1923 Marriages 1903-1952 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079782 > > Marriages 1952 > FHL US/CAN Film 2079783 > > > David Hoyt wrote: > > >Do you know of anyone with access to the census for 1810? > >I cant understand why James is listed on the census, but no records are > >found. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Luce" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:43 PM > >Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] HOYT/HOIT > > > > > >> History of Royalton Vermont, Vol. 2, Evelyn Lovejoy, 1911 > >> There is James listed and no Hoyt/Hoit listed in the genealogy > >> section other than a few women of that name who married into other > >> families. The entries for males are mostly in the History section (Vol. > >> 1) and include Abraham Hoyt, Dr. Moses Hoyt and Ziba Hoyt. There is no > >> James or Asa listed. > >> > >> Royalton Vermont, Hope Nash, 1975 > >> Ziba Hoyt is listed as once owning one of the houses in District 4. > >> Abraham Hoyt is listed as owning one of the farms in District 17 > >> probably originally owned by Ziba Hoyt. > >> Again there is no James nor Asa listed at all. > >> > >> I only have the books temporarily, on loan from NEHGS circulating library. > >> > >> It seems like Ziba or Abraham Hoyt may have been one of the progenitors > >> of this line in Royalton. > >> > >> David Hoyt wrote: > >> > >> > I am seeking records from 1800-1820 or so. I saw James Hoit/Hoyt/Holt > >> in the 1810 census for Royalton, Windsor Co.VT pg 553 and seek details. > >> I have had trouble tracking James Hoit because he moved frequently and > >> there were several of the same name. He is supposed to have married Mary > >> Peebles and had several children including Samuel, Mindwell, Asa, > >> Mahalah, James and others. My research is through Asa and I believe they > >> traveled into Vermont. > >> >James was supposed to be born in 1779 in Concord, NH, so he would be > >> about 30 years of age in 1810. > >> >James died in Lowell , Ma. in 1842 of complications of diabetes. > >> > > >> >If you have any light to shed, I would appreciate it! > >> >David Emery Hoyt > > > > > -- > Robert Luce <[email protected]> > --- Il faut supporter deux ou trois chenilles > --- si on veut connaître les papillons.. > --- -Antoine de Saint Exupéry > > > > > ==== VTWINDSO Mailing List ==== > You may contradict any idea or fact expressed on this list as > vigorously as you like, just be polite and don't get personal. > -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Where does someone obtain the probate records that Darrell is locating for us ? Richard Van Wagenen

Do you know of anyone with access to the census for 1810? I cant understand why James is listed on the census, but no records are found. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Luce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] HOYT/HOIT > History of Royalton Vermont, Vol. 2, Evelyn Lovejoy, 1911 > There is James listed and no Hoyt/Hoit listed in the genealogy > section other than a few women of that name who married into other > families. The entries for males are mostly in the History section (Vol. > 1) and include Abraham Hoyt, Dr. Moses Hoyt and Ziba Hoyt. There is no > James or Asa listed. > > Royalton Vermont, Hope Nash, 1975 > Ziba Hoyt is listed as once owning one of the houses in District 4. > Abraham Hoyt is listed as owning one of the farms in District 17 > probably originally owned by Ziba Hoyt. > Again there is no James nor Asa listed at all. > > I only have the books temporarily, on loan from NEHGS circulating library. > > It seems like Ziba or Abraham Hoyt may have been one of the progenitors > of this line in Royalton. > > David Hoyt wrote: > > > I am seeking records from 1800-1820 or so. I saw James Hoit/Hoyt/Holt > in the 1810 census for Royalton, Windsor Co.VT pg 553 and seek details. > I have had trouble tracking James Hoit because he moved frequently and > there were several of the same name. He is supposed to have married Mary > Peebles and had several children including Samuel, Mindwell, Asa, > Mahalah, James and others. My research is through Asa and I believe they > traveled into Vermont. > >James was supposed to be born in 1779 in Concord, NH, so he would be > about 30 years of age in 1810. > >James died in Lowell , Ma. in 1842 of complications of diabetes. > > > >If you have any light to shed, I would appreciate it! > >David Emery Hoyt > > > > > -- > Robert Luce <[email protected]> > --- Il faut supporter deux ou trois chenilles > --- si on veut connaître les papillons.. > --- -Antoine de Saint Exupéry > > > ==== VTWINDSO Mailing List ==== > An intolerance for irrelevancies and an inability to filter out > unneeded information are not positive traits in genealogists. > -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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I have access to the 1810 census, and yes, I see James there listed nextdoor to a William Hoit and not far from Abraham Hoit. They are all 26-44 so it's very possible they are all brothers. What I have are HISTORY books, with some genealogies of longterm or founding families included. They are by no means vital records. I would suggest that you go to your Family History Center and order the appropriate microfilms of the vital records of Royalton. If you're not aware of the Family History Centers, go to http://www.familysearch.org and click the Family History Library and follow the prompts to find one near you. The friendly people there will help you order the films, they usually cost about $3.50 each and take 2-5 weeks to come in. Indexes to births, deaths, marriages 1762- 1945 FHL US/CAN Film 982527 Items 1-2 Card index to vital records A-Darrow, J. 1857-1997 FHL US/CAN Film 2079686 Card index to vital records Darrow, J.-I 1857-1997 FHL US/CAN Film 2079687 Card index to vital records J.-Rogers, E. 1857-1997 FHL US/CAN Film 2079688 Card index to vital records Rogers, E.-Z 1857-1997 FHL US/CAN Film 2079689 Births, marriages, deaths v. 1, 9, 5 1762- 1868 FHL US/CAN Film 28748 Births, marriages, deaths v. 19, 25 1857- 1883 FHL US/CAN Film 982527 Items 3-4 Births & deaths v. 39 1884-1896 Births 1897-1932 Deaths v. 42 1897-1918 VAULT US/CAN Film 2079779 Deaths 1903-1948 FHL US/CAN Film 2079780 Deaths 1948-1997 Marriages v. 38 1883-1945 Marriages v. 40(p.1-77) 1897-1908 FHL US/CAN Film 2079781 Marriages v. 40(p.77-end) 1905-1923 Marriages 1903-1952 FHL US/CAN Film 2079782 Marriages 1952 FHL US/CAN Film 2079783 David Hoyt wrote: >Do you know of anyone with access to the census for 1810? >I cant understand why James is listed on the census, but no records are >found. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Luce" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:43 PM >Subject: Re: [VTWINDSO] HOYT/HOIT > > >> History of Royalton Vermont, Vol. 2, Evelyn Lovejoy, 1911 >> There is James listed and no Hoyt/Hoit listed in the genealogy >> section other than a few women of that name who married into other >> families. The entries for males are mostly in the History section (Vol. >> 1) and include Abraham Hoyt, Dr. Moses Hoyt and Ziba Hoyt. There is no >> James or Asa listed. >> >> Royalton Vermont, Hope Nash, 1975 >> Ziba Hoyt is listed as once owning one of the houses in District 4. >> Abraham Hoyt is listed as owning one of the farms in District 17 >> probably originally owned by Ziba Hoyt. >> Again there is no James nor Asa listed at all. >> >> I only have the books temporarily, on loan from NEHGS circulating library. >> >> It seems like Ziba or Abraham Hoyt may have been one of the progenitors >> of this line in Royalton. >> >> David Hoyt wrote: >> >> > I am seeking records from 1800-1820 or so. I saw James Hoit/Hoyt/Holt >> in the 1810 census for Royalton, Windsor Co.VT pg 553 and seek details. >> I have had trouble tracking James Hoit because he moved frequently and >> there were several of the same name. He is supposed to have married Mary >> Peebles and had several children including Samuel, Mindwell, Asa, >> Mahalah, James and others. My research is through Asa and I believe they >> traveled into Vermont. >> >James was supposed to be born in 1779 in Concord, NH, so he would be >> about 30 years of age in 1810. >> >James died in Lowell , Ma. in 1842 of complications of diabetes. >> > >> >If you have any light to shed, I would appreciate it! >> >David Emery Hoyt > > -- Robert Luce <[email protected]> --- Il faut supporter deux ou trois chenilles --- si on veut connaître les papillons.. --- -Antoine de Saint Exupéry

Darrell, Please look for these names in the Probate Records: John Slafter who died 8 Oct 1819 Sylvester Slafter who died 9 May 1850 It could be that either of them went by Slater rather than Slafter. I notice you said there are six Slafters and one Slater. As I am positive that all these belong to my family, if you could possibly tell me their first names I will verify where they fit in, and probably get back to you with a request for their records, too. Thanks so much! Jackie