The message below was posted on the 17th of August but it came throught to me as this garbled message. I have a connection to the Redway family via my Joy line and would be interested in obtaining a copy that doesn't have a lot of ASCII coding which has converted whatever you might have typed in your original message. Could the originator of this message please forward to me a copy of the original message? Would appreciate it very much. Thanks. Christie Trapp In a message dated 8/17/2001 7:04:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Date: 17 Aug 2001 05:11:38 -0600 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [VTWINDHA] Re: Wescot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists7.rootsweb.com id f7HE2KI00369 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Westcott, Redway Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AC.2ACI/215.1069.1 Message Board Post: << Martha's Parents were David and Elizabeth Wescoat, both of Putney m. 2= 8 Jan 1789 Putney, >> The marriage at Putney, 25 (not 28) Jan. 1789, was between David Redway a= nd Elizabeth Westcott/Wescoat/Waistcoat/etc., sister of Martha. The sist= ers' parents were Richard and Rachel (Goff) Westcott/Westcoat/Waistcoat/e= tc. Below, in an excerpt from my Redway-family typescript, is material p= ertaining to David and Jonathan Redway, sons of Timothy and Mary (Willmar= th) Redway, both of whom married Westcott girls (see my article on this f= amily in October 2000 issue of The New England Historical and Genealogica= l Register): iv. DAVID REDWAY, born 26 March 1762; died at Barnston, Stanstead Co., Qu= ebec, Canada, 20 March 1851, aged 90 (gravestone [transcr. Nancy Dodge, C= olebrook, N.H., 1981]); married probably at Putney=E2=80=94intentions the= re, 25 (not 28) January 1789=E2=80=94ELIZABETH WESTCOTT of Putney, born p= robably at Rehoboth or adjacent Dighton, Massachusetts, ca. 1764, and die= d at Barnston, 6 March 1845, aged 81, daughter of Richard and Rachel (Gof= f) Westcott/Westcoat/Waistcoat/etc.[1] (Putney Land, Town & VR 1:1:341; R= ehoboth VR 2:268; Bristol Co., Mass., Deeds 50:231; gravestone [Dodge]). - -------------------------------------------------------------- [1] For evidence supporting the identification of Elizabeth Westcott=E2=80= =99s parents, see Rehoboth VR 2:136, 173, 268, 6:94; Bristol Co. Deeds 66= :319, 467; Warwick, Mass., VR 1:45, 68, 77, 78, 2:260; Putney Town & VR 3= 97; Putney Land, Town, & VR 2:298 (witness), 3:78 (witness); Putney Deeds= 6:248 (witness); Heads of Families, 1790, Mass., 127 (Richard and Richar= d 2d Waistcoat); 1800 U.S. Census, Warwick, Hampshire Co., Mass., 40 (Ric= hard and Richard Jr. Weastcoat); 1825 Quebec Census, Barnston, Richelieu = Co., 728 (David and David 2d Redway, Wheeler Westcoat). - -------------------------------------------------------------- David was of Putney as late as 2 January 1794, when his father reassumed = ownership of the family farm to fight David=E2=80=99s (and brother Jonath= an=E2=80=99s) ejectment (above) (Putney L,T&VR 3:20-22). When on 2 Octobe= r 1795 his father deeded half the Putney homestead farm back to him, Davi= d was living at Warwick, Massachusetts=E2=80=94wife Elizabeth's father, a= brazier, had brought his family there from Dighton between 1765 and 1773= =E2=80=94where he stayed probably less than two years (Putney L,T&VR 3:19= 6; Bristol Co Deeds 50:231; Warwick VR 1:68). By 1 May 1796, certainly, D= avid had returned to Putney and the following 6 September was listed amon= g the town's freemen (Putney L,T&VR 1:1:462, 3:345). On 22 March 1804 Dav= id was identified in Putney records as a Baptist (Putney T&VR 59); he was= not on a similar, 1806 list, however. Between 17 and 21 January 1807, he= disposed of all his lands at Putney, including the aforementioned half o= f his father's former farm, which he sol! d for $600 to brother Jonathan, who already owned the other half (Putney = Deeds 4:318, 319, 419).=20 David and his family left Putney probably about this time. Although absen= t from U.S. censuses after 1800, they next appear in the northern-Vermont= township of Burke, where on 25 May 1813 a warning-out order was issued a= gainst them and served on his wife (Burke T&VR A:146). The only known, su= bsequent American record pertaining to this family documents the marriage= =E2=80=94at Burke, 28 October 1816 (not 1815)=E2=80=94of David=E2=80=99s = namesake and only known son to Nancy Humphrey (Burke T&VR A:445). While i= t is uncertain if the family was still (again?) residing at Burke at this= time (neither party=E2=80=99s residence is noted), the record=E2=80=99s = failure to refer to the groom as =E2=80=9CJr.=E2=80=9D suggests that Davi= d Sr.=E2=80=94and thus the bulk of his family=E2=80=94was living elsewher= e. The next known record of father or son locates both in 1825 at Barnsto= n, less than ten miles north of the Vermont-Quebec border: listed success= ively in Quebec=E2=80=99s earliest ninet! eenth-century census are heads-of-household David Redway, David Redway 2d= , and Wheeler Westcoat, eldest child of Elizabeth's brother Richard (1825= Quebec Census, Richelieu Co., 728; Warwick VR 1:45). David and Elizabeth= , David Jr. and Nancy, and three of the latter couple's daughters are bur= ied at Barnston=E2=80=99s Buckland Cemetery (gravestones [Dodge]). The ar= chivist for nearby North Hatfield=E2=80=99s Old North Church Cemetery Ass= ociation reports that Ruth F. Redway, wife of Silas Perkins (and probable= daughter of David and Elizabeth Redway), is buried there (Terry Skeats, = =E2=80=9CRuth Redway,=E2=80=9D e-mail to compiler from <[email protected]= ca>, 26 Jan. 1999). Redway children (perhaps others), b. probably at Putney: 1. David, b. 10 = Aug. 1793 (gravestone [Dodge]). 2. Probably Ruth F., b. Sep. 1797 (graves= tone [Skeats, transcr. 1999]). v. JONATHAN REDWAY/RADWAY, born 13 March 1764; died at Putney, 1 or 2 Mar= ch 1813, aged 49 (gravestone, in Ken Stevens, Vital Records of Putney, Ve= rmont, to the Year 1900 (Pittsford, Vt., 1992), 334, and in Vt. VR Coll. = [Radway]; Putney ChR 1:106, in Vt. VR Coll.); buried at Dipping Hole Ceme= tery, Putney; married at Putney, 18 February 1790 (intentions 31 Jan.), M= ARTHA WESTCOTT, born probably at Rehoboth or Dighton, ca. 1765, and livin= g at Newburg, Ohio, in 1850, aged 85, daughter of Richard and Rachel (Gof= f) Westcott/Westcoat/Waistcoat/etc.[2] (Putney L,T&VR 1:1:343, 1:2:15; Re= hoboth VR 2:268; Bristol Co. Deeds 50:231; 1850 U.S. Census, Cuyahoga Co.= , Ohio 650 [Rodway]).=20 - -------------------------------------------------------- [2] The 1850 U.S. Census (fully cited above) reports Martha=E2=80=99s bir= th place as Massachusetts; she is enumerated in the household of her youn= gest son, wagon maker =E2=80=9CL[ovell] Rodway,=E2=80=9D aged 38 [sic]. S= ince Lovell was actually 40, it is tempting to doubt the accuracy of his = mother=E2=80=99s reported age. A lineage chart of Ohio Radways and allied= families shows Martha=E2=80=99s birth year as 1762; it also has her as h= aving died in 1847, however (Eldert L. Hyde, "Genealogy of the Barlow, Hy= de, Radway & Marshall Families" [chart, 1934; photocopy in custody of com= piler]). From her husband Jonathan=E2=80=99s birth year (1764), that of h= is brother David (1762), and that based on the age at death recorded for = Martha=E2=80=99s sister (David=E2=80=99s wife) Elizabeth (ca. 1764), it i= s reasonable to suppose that Martha=E2=80=99s reported age of 85 in 1850=E2= =80=94producing a birth year of ca. 1765=E2=80=94is about right. For sources supporting the identification of Martha Westcott=E2=80=99= s parents, see the preceding note. - ------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan, who had married a sister of his brother David=E2=80=99s wife, l= ived at the sisters=E2=80=99 hometown of Warwick about the same time as d= id David but probably even more briefly. Like his brother, he had been of= Putney on 2 January 1794 (Putney L,T&VR 3:20-22); of Warwick when on 3 S= eptember of that year his father deeded half the Putney homestead farm ba= ck to him, he probably returned to Putney about that time (ibid., 3:77-78= ). Clearly by 1 May 1796 Jonathan had returned to Putney and on 6 Septemb= er of that year was listed among the town's freemen (ibid., 1:1:463; 3:34= 5). In 1807 he bought from brother David the other half of what had been = their father's farm (Putney Deeds 4:318). Like David, he was listed as a = Baptist on 22 March 1804 and does not appear on a similar, 1806 list (Put= ney T&VR 59). Since Jonathan's death is reported in the records of the Pu= tney Congregational Church (1:106, in Vt. VR Coll.), he had probably resu= med worshipping there.=20 Jonathan's estate inventory, presented to the court on 24 May 1813, value= d his personal estate at $492 and 150 acres of real estate at $1,890 (Wes= tminster District, Vt., Probates D:380-82). The debts accruing to the est= ate were such as to force widow Martha, granted letters of administration= on 25 March 1813, to sell an "out pasture" of about 50 acres in two tran= sactions totaling $379 (Westminster Dist. Probates D:323, E:219-20, F:127= -28; Putney Deeds 5:56, 166). The 100-acre home farm, valued at $1,600, w= as finally distributed on 24 March 1818 to Martha and six of the ten surv= iving children (Westminster Dist. Probates F:183-86). It was sold out of = the family in 1832 by son Lovell, who earlier that year had acquired the = other heirs' interests (Putney Deeds 7:305-61 passim). Martha remarried b= etween 1820 and 1823, taking as her second husband John Priest of Westmin= ster, on Putney's northern border (1820 U.S. Census, Putney, Windham Co.,= Vt., 133 [Radway]; Putney Deeds 6:62, 6! 3, 338, 350, 7:123).=20 Redway/Radway children, b. (except perhaps no. 3) at Putney (Putney T&VR = 397): 1. Bethany, b. 7 March 1791. 2. Experience, b. 2 Dec. 1792. 3. Arad= , b. (Warwick?) 17 Aug. 1794. 4. Martha, b. 2 Aug. 1796. 5. Daniel, b. 16= May 1798. 6. Rachel, b. 3 June 1800. 7. Elizabeth, b. 26 July 1802. 8. R= ichard, b. 24 July 1804. 9. Preserved, b. 26 June (d. 24 July) 1806. 10. = Laban, b. 16 Dec. 1807. 11. Lovell, 26 Aug. 1809. [Here, out of order, is an additional item of interest.] From 1812 to 182= 0 the surname of Timothy's eldest son, Wilmarth, daughter-in-law Martha (= Jonathan's widow), and their respective families underwent a transition f= rom Redway to Radway (see Putney Deeds 4:570, 580, 621, 5:56-622 passim, = 6:62-532 passim, 7:29-361 passim; 1820 U.S. Census, Putney, Windham Co., = Vt., 133, 134). Certain of Wilmarth=E2=80=99s descendants retained the la= tter spelling; others reverted to the former. All Jonathan=E2=80=99s desc= endants appear to have remained Radways. (It is ironic that this modific= ation did not follow on the heels of the Redways' migration to Putney but= occurred after more than thirty years there. Timothy=E2=80=99s other two= sons and their respective families left Putney before the transition beg= an and escaped it altogether.) [If you'd like information about Timothy and Mary (Willmarth) Redway, the= rest of their children, and their Redway ancestors, let me know and I'll= send it to you as an e-mail attachment. You might also obtain copies of= three articles, all in The New England Historical and Genealogical Regis= ter: "Joanna Hildreth, Wife of Captain James3 Redway of Rehoboth, Massach= usetts: How Much Circumstantial Evidence Is Enough?" NEHGR 146(1992):337-= 42; "Samuel4 Redway of Rehoboth, Massachusetts: His First Wife and Later = Life," NEHGR 150(1996):311-14; and "The Redway/Radway Family of Putney, V= ermont: A Branch of the Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Redways," NEHGR 154(2000= ):446-58 (this is the one mentioned in my introductory remarks).] >>