This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sumner, Lovett, Rogers, Crouch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AC.2ACI/57.1 Message Board Post: Here's some of my information on the SUMNERS. I'm wondering if your George is a brother to my Henry Adams born in 1813. I've included notes I have received from other researchers. Greg Hunter jghunter@twcny.rr.com 1 Benjamin SUMNER Birth: 20 Feb 1783 Death: 28 Mar 1852 Burial: Pine Hill Cemetary, Brandon, VT Father: Benjamin SUMNER (1744-1829) Mother: Martha CLARK 1800 Vermont Fed Census Windham county, town of Townsend p. 6 on Ancestry.com Benjamin Sumner - - 2 - 1 1 1 - Thomas Sumner 5 2 - 1 - - 2 - Benjamin SUMNER b: 20 Feb 1783 in Spencer, Worcester, MA * Married: 14 Nov 1809 in Townsend, Windham, VT Re: Sumners from Brandon, Vermont 1783... Posted by: Samantha Russell Britt (ID *****1820) Date: June 14, 2004 at 11:35:30 In Reply to: Re: Sumners from Brandon, Vermont 1783... by Gregory Hunter of 1675 Go You certainly have a lot of very good information on these Sumners, better than just the numbers! Okay, here goes: Benjamin Sumner (b.20Feb1783, d.27Mar1852)was the son of Benjamin Sumner (b.07Jan1744, d.07Aug1829, m.29Aug1771 to Martha Clark) as you will see on www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/family_group_record.asp?familyid=7328850. This elder Benjamin Sumner was the son of John Sumner (b.01Aug1705, d.Dec1787, FIRST married 20Nov1729 to Susannah Stevens, SECOND married 22Sep1738 to Jedidah Smith) and I found these two "family group records" on www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/family_group_record.asp?familyid=2716538 and www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/family_group_record.asp?familyid=166254690. My great-great-great grandfather, Daniel Meder (1779-1857) married my great-great-great grandmother in Shewsbury, Rutland Co., VT in 1816. Her name was SARAH SALLY SUMNER, born 30 October 1787. I cannot find her among any Sumners on the internet. She may have been married to a Benjamin Sumner first. In 1806, a Benjamin and Sally Sumner were living in Shrewsbury, VT. Daniel Meder was living in Bradford (Haverhill) Mass. with his 1st wife, Rebecca White Carleton in 1806. In 1807, the Meders were living in Shrewsbury, VT, where a son was born. Can anyone help me to sort this out? Please e-mail me! Dr. Richard B. Meader rmeader@csonline.net Descendants of Samuel Sumner Generation No. 1 1. SAMUEL1 SUMNER was born WFT Est. 1674-1718, and died WFT Est. 1713-1799. He married ELIZABETH GRIFFIN WFT Est. 1699-1754. She was born WFT Est. 1680-1721, and died WFT Est. 1713-1805.         Child of SAMUEL SUMNER and ELIZABETH GRIFFIN is: 2.       i.       JOSEPH2 SUMNER, b. WFT Est. 1713-1743; d. WFT Est. 1768-1829. Generation No. 2 2. JOSEPH2 SUMNER (SAMUEL1) was born WFT Est. 1713-1743, and died WFT Est. 1768-1829. He married LUCY WILLIAMS May 12, 1763, daughter of WILLIAM WILLIAMS and SARAH STEPHENS. She was born WFT Est. 1721-1746, and died WFT Est. 1768-1835.         Child of JOSEPH SUMNER and LUCY WILLIAMS is: 3.       i.       SARAH3 SUMNER, b. May 06, 1764, Shrewsbury, Mass; d. February 01, 1832, HIghgate, VT. Generation No. 3 3. SARAH3 SUMNER (JOSEPH2, SAMUEL1) was born May 06, 1764 in Shrewsbury, Mass, and died February 01, 1832 in HIghgate, VT. She married WILLIAM JENNISON October 30, 1788, son of ISRAEL JENNISON and MARY HEYWOOD. He was born April 12, 1758, and died 1824. Spouse: Lucretia WILLIARD Birth: abt 1785 Marr: 14 Nov 1809, Townsend, Windham, VT Children: Henry Adams (1813-1904) 1.1 Henry Adams SUMNER ————————————————————————— Birth: 19 Nov 1813, Townshend, Windham, Vermont Death: 20 Aug 1904 Burial: Pine Hill Cemetary, Brandon, VT Occ: farmer 1850 Vermont Federal Census page 86 or image s 164-165 on Ancestry.com Henry age 35 Farmer born in Vermont value of estate $3,000 Harriet age 30 born in Vermont Albert age 4 born in Vermont After a very cursory look at the messages on the Sumner forum, I offer the name of a book that could be helpful - at least it was to me in tracing my Sumner connections. That is "Descendents of William Sumner of Dorchester, Massachusetts" by William Sumner Appleton. "Brandon is a flourishing town. It is finely watered by Otter Creek, Mill River and Spring Pond; which streams are good mill sites. Some of the land is level, with rather a light soil, but that on Otter Creek is the best alluvial...The settlement of the town commenced in the year 1775 by John Whelan, Noah Strong, DAVID JUNE, Jedediah Winslow, Amos Cutler and others. Mr. Cutler was, however, the only person who remained in town during the following winter." Gazeteer of Vermont, Hayward, 1849. 1860 Fed census shows Henry and Harriet living next door to Prudence! Henry Sumner Brandon, Rutland, VT 46 1813 Vermont Male Harriett E Sumner Brandon, Rutland, VT 45 1814 Vermont Female Albert J Sumner Brandon, Rutland, VT 14 1845 Vermont Male Ellie A Sumner Brandon, Rutland, VT 6 1853 Vermont Female Henry B Sumner Brandon, Rutland, VT 4 1855 Vermont Male Lucinda June Brandon, Rutland, VT 58 1801 Vermont Female Spouse: Harriet E. JUNE Birth: 5 May 1814, Vermont Death: 30 Mar 1896 Father: Asahel JUNE (1772-1862) Mother: Anna SIMONDS (~1774-1849) Marr: 9 Oct 1843 Children: Albert June (1845-1914) Ella Ann (1854-1908) Henry Benjamin (1856-) 1.1.1 Albert June SUMNER ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 28 Nov 1845, Brandon, Rutland, VT Death: 1914 Burial: Pine Hill Cemetary, Brandon, VT 1850 Vermont Fed Census - lists Albert as age 4 From the same Cemetery Inscriptions Book SUMNERS Pine Hill Cemetery Sumner Flora Ann, dau of Albert J & Mary J May 25 - Oct 23 1883 Fannie Mae dau, of Albert J & Mary J Aug 3. 1884 - Nov 15 1975 Fannie Mae 1884 - 1974 (Second stone) Henry A, Nov 19, 1813 Aug 20. 1904 (side 1) Harriet E, June, wife, May 5, 1814 - March 30, 1896 Albert S 1845 - 1914 (side 2) Mary J McKenna, wife, 1851 - 1928 DOGGETT, Ella A. dau. of Henry A. Sumner, Jan 23, 1854 - March 27,1908 (back) GEE, Bertha H, Sumner , wife of Allen W 1886 - 1944 Allen W. 1890 - 1976 Walter Allen pfc, us army,, WW1, Nov 20, 1890 - July 18, 1976 Albert R, 1919 -1963 2nd stone, Vt, pfc 127 engineer BN WW11 July 11, 1919- Sept 1, 1963 Phyllis H. 1916 - no date Old Town or Congregational Cemetery, Brandon Sumner, Benjamin d March 28, 1852 age 69 - 1 - 8 Sort through them and Good Luck.......Boy I'm hooked on this stuff, Mary Spouse: Mary J. McKENNA Birth: 1851 Death: 1928 Marr: 24 OCT 1877  Children: Flora Ann (1883-1883) Fannie Mae (1884-1975) Bertha Harriet (1886-1944) 1.1.2 Ella Ann SUMNER ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 24 Jan 1854, Brandon, Rutland, VT Death: 17 Mar 1908 Burial: Pine Hill Cemetary, Brandon, VT From the same Cemetery Inscriptions Book SUMNERS Pine Hill Cemetery Sumner Flora Ann, dau of Albert J & Mary J May 25 - Oct 23 1883 Fannie Mae dau, of Albert J & Mary J Aug 3. 1884 - Nov 15 1975 Fannie Mae 1884 - 1974 (Second stone) Henry A, Nov 19, 1813 Aug 20. 1904 (side 1) Harriet E, June, wife, May 5, 1814 - March 30, 1896 Albert S 1845 - 1914 (side 2) Mary J McKenna, wife, 1851 - 1928 DOGGETT, Ella A. dau. of Henry A. Sumner, Jan 23, 1854 - March 27,1908 (back) GEE, Bertha H, Sumner , wife of Allen W 1886 - 1944 Allen W. 1890 - 1976 Walter Allen pfc, us army,, WW1, Nov 20, 1890 - July 18, 1976 Albert R, 1919 -1963 2nd stone, Vt, pfc 127 engineer BN WW11 July 11, 1919- Sept 1, 1963 Phyllis H. 1916 - no date Old Town or Congregational Cemetery, Brandon Sumner, Benjamin d March 28, 1852 age 69 - 1 - 8 Sort through them and Good Luck.......Boy I'm hooked on this stuff, Mary Spouse: Chester C. DAGGETT Birth: 1842 Occ: clerk in store 1.1.3 Henry Benjamin SUMNER ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 9 Feb 1856, Brandon Twp. Rutland, Vermont Burial: Brandon, Vermont Occ: Worked for Rutland County repairing gravel roads Dad Lovett said that Henry chewed tobacco and smoked a pipe. He owned his home and had a cow and chickens. Sumner family had a burial plot in Brandon on the way north out of town. Posted by: Samantha Russell Britt (ID *****1820) Date: June 08, 2004 at 07:58:29 In Reply to: Sumners from Brandon, Vermont 1783... by Greg Hunter of 1671 Go Greetings! You probably already know this, but you have lots and lots of SUMNER relatives from Vermont. From the abundant SUMNER genealogy data on the LDS website, it looks like your Albert S. SUMNER is the 6th cousin of my great-grandmother, Almira SUMNER Russell. If you go to www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/family_group_record.asp?familyid=3207067 you will see, for instance, that all of Thomas SUMNER's (3rd cousin to your Henry Adams SUMNER's grandfather Benjamin SUMNER) children were born in Vermont, and then on down the line! The SUMNER family that I am more recently related to has been located all around that Brandon/Middlebury/Bristol/New Haven VT locale. Spouse: Jennie ROGERS Birth: 14 Jan 1864, Brandon Twp. Rutland, Vermont Father: Lewis ROGERS (1826-) Mother: Louis Rogers (1835-) Children: Jessie Ella (1885-1968) Harry W. Index CLARK Martha parent of 1 DAGGETT Chester C. spouse of 1.1.2 JUNE Asahel parent of spouse of 1.1 Harriet E. spouse of 1.1 McKENNA Mary J. spouse of 1.1.1 ROGERS Jennie spouse of 1.1.3 Lewis parent of spouse of 1.1.3 Louis parent of spouse of 1.1.3 SIMONDS Anna parent of spouse of 1.1 SUMNER Albert June 1.1.1 Benjamin 1 Benjamin parent of 1 Bertha Harriet child of 1.1.1 Ella Ann 1.1.2 Fannie Mae child of 1.1.1 Flora Ann child of 1.1.1 Harry W. child of 1.1.3 Henry Adams 1.1 Henry Benjamin 1.1.3 Jessie Ella child of 1.1.3 WILLIARD Lucretia spouse of 1