This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AC.2ACI/1617.1 Message Board Post: Jim, You do not mention where in New York your John Carpenter is from, but as I am reading this post on the Windham County, Vermont board I am guessing you believe the Carpenters may have come from this area. Interestingly enough, while the Colonies were fighting the Revolutionary War, settlers in Vermont were fighting a civil war. Land had been granted in Vermont by New Hampshire, Massachusetts and New York colonies; some grants even overlapped! One faction arose in Vermont that believed it should be a separate entity, while many wanted to remain loyal to New York. The so-called New Yorkers were centered in Guilford, then the largest town in Vermont, which is located in Windham County. The upshot is, the Vermonters won out and the New Yorkers either accepted the situation or moved on. According to "Official History of Guilford, Vermont 1678-1961," a sizeable body of New Yorkers from Vermont, most from Guilford, were given 40,960 acres of land in New York. The land originally belonged to the Oneida and Tuscarora Indians and was originally known as Clinton township. The name changed to Jerico in 1791 and again to Bainbridge in 1814. The reason I mention all this is that among the Vermont exiles were four Carpenters: Edward - received 300 acres Nathaniel - 280 acres Asaph - 350 acres Cyril - 220 acres Like the Civil War that erupted 70 years later, the Vermont civil war split families, with Carpenters on both sides. Some Carpenters remained in Guilford. This may be another blind alley, or a trip to Bainbridge may find what you are looking for in the town records. Cheers, Dan