This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0AC.2ACI/1862.1 Message Board Post: 1880 census lists Patrick Navin 12 and Peter Navin 5 living with their Grandparents Phillip and Susan Smith in Danby Rutland, Vermont. I believe but am not certain that Phillip Smith is father to my Peter Smith who is my Gr Gr Grandfather. Happy Hunting