This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MikeSchAAA Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Cathy, that means a lot, and it's nice to know someone out there's paying attention. Though there are aspects of this stuff that still confuse me -- like why all the land sales and purchases as recorded in the Town Deed Books don't seem to be reflected in the Grand Lists and other tax assessment books. People seem to be buying and selling land all the time, yet their taxable real estate seems to remain constant over time. Maybe there was a town ordinance that newly acquired real estate wouldn't be taxed for a number of years. Or that it had to be physically occupied for X number of years to be taxed. Or something. I just don't know, and didn't have time to go through all the Town Reports to check. The Castleton Town Clerk didn't know either. But there seems to be a disconnect between the tax lists and the town deeds. Oh well, more puzzles, more digging. Anyway thanks a lot for your words of encouragement, and great job to you as well, your posts are amazing. Peace, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Mike, Just wanted to say "Good job." Very impressive website, and I loved all the general Castleton information on taxes, deeds, deaths, newspaper clippings and the historical photos. Keep up the good work! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have a land record from 5 Mov 1878 in Sutherland Falls that gives permission to John Curry (my gfather) to build a house of such size as he shall choose standing on my land just west of my cedar swamp to occupy the same for ten years It goes on to state that John Curry agrees to pay the sum of five dollars per year for the time said house shall stand on my land payable in money or work at his choice. I have also found what was once called a 'straw deed' which would put the property in the lawyers name and another deed it would change it to the family usually adding other names to the deed - no money was exchanged. I have never checked the tax records on these properties. Just another thought. It's great to have these records available. Thanks! Rosemary "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Another possibility is that the land wasn't actually being bought and sold. I found several situations among Ira and Rutland deeds in which someone who needed money would deed their property to a neighbor or relative for an amount and then agree that the deed would be void if the money was paid back with interest within a certain amount of time. The land itself never changed hands. For example, on November 19, 1855 Bernard Higgins of Ira deeded four and a half acres of land in Ira to James Mumford of Rutland for $59. He agreed to repay the money with interest in one year or forfeit his property. By mortgaging his property to James Mumford, Bernard Higgins was able to raise ready cash without actually selling his property. James Mumford, meanwhile, was able to make interest on his money by lending it to Higgins, with the knowledge that Higgins property would be his if Higgins defaulted on the mortgage. In another situation, in 1856 Artemus Cooke deeded land to James Mumford for $450. But James, not having the full price, immediately deeded the same land to Bradley Fish for $200. Mumford had to pay Fish $100 plus interest by January 1, 1857 and $100 plus interest by September 29, 1857 or forfeit the property. In a third situation, in April 1871 Patrick and Jane Mcginly of Rutland mortgaged their homestead to Patrick H. Mumford of Rutland for $1200. (Mcginly's first wife, by then deceased, had been a Mumford.) Mcginly gave Mumford 6 promissory notes of $200 each, the first being due with interest on May 1, 1872 and one being due with interest each May thereafter. Donal F. Begley, in "Irish Genealogy, A Record Finder" remarks that this was a usual practice and that "the original mortgage was more usually made between relatives or connections by marriage, the idea being that such family links provided some additional security." I don't know if this applies to the records you refer to, but these were situations of people lending each other money rather than actually buying and selling property, so taxes might not have applied. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. List administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe there may be an answer to that questions in the many properties that had to be re done due to Vermont being part of New York for so many years. There were many people who had to reclaim what they already owned. Food for thought. Barbara On Aug 28, 2007, at 1:28 PM, [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: MikeSchAAA > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/ > localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1/ > mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks Cathy, that means a lot, and it's nice to know someone out > there's paying attention. Though there are aspects of this stuff > that still confuse me -- like why all the land sales and purchases > as recorded in the Town Deed Books don't seem to be reflected in > the Grand Lists and other tax assessment books. People seem to be > buying and selling land all the time, yet their taxable real estate > seems to remain constant over time. Maybe there was a town > ordinance that newly acquired real estate wouldn't be taxed for a > number of years. Or that it had to be physically occupied for X > number of years to be taxed. Or something. I just don't know, and > didn't have time to go through all the Town Reports to check. The > Castleton Town Clerk didn't know either. But there seems to be a > disconnect between the tax lists and the town deeds. Oh well, more > puzzles, more digging. Anyway thanks a lot for your words of > encouragement, and great job to you as well, your posts are amazing. > > Peace, > > Mike > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If > you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board > URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > List administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTRUTLAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MikeSchAAA Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4796.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1874 Quadrennial Valuation of Real Estate for the Town of Castleton lists George Dawson, living in Hydeville (school district 5). I did not check for earlier or later years but figured you might want to do that yourself. The image showing George Dawson (the first name on the page, in fact) is here: http://www.familyhistoryfiles.com/site_text/WCJ-May07/WCJDocs/CasTax-1832-1901/1874-QV11.jpg It's image 11 of the 1874 QV. Hope this helps, buena suerte, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MikeSchAAA Surnames: Delehanty, Downs, Wallace, Hayes, others Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is to announce the Web publication of select pages and years of tax records for the Town of Castleton for the years 1832-1901. The collection contains 605 digital images of pages from the grand lists, assessment books, and quinquennial / quadrennial valuations of real estate for the town, including complete series for the following years: 1832, 1850, 1860, 1865, 1870, 1874, 1878, 1882, 1886, 1890, 1894, 1895, 1896, 1898, and 1900. There is also a complete series of pages for the letter "D" for every year from 1857 to 1901. The collection can be found at http://www.familyhistoryfiles.com/site_text/WCJ-May07/WCJDocs/wcj-taxes.htm#1 The page is still under construction but all the images are (or should be) accessible; if some aren't, or are missing or mislabeled, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: _Tootsie_ Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.12.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sara My great-grandmother is Mary Harriet Bushey, shortened to Hattie Bush by the time she died. Her last name and mother's maiden names were varied on documents, and and many different spellings (Bushaw, Buskey, Busky, Bouskey, Bushy, Bushey). On her mother's death certificate it said the name was spelt Bouschier. However, I forgot that her mother (Ellen/Eleanor Gervais/Jarvis) had married at least 3 times (as did Hattie), and that at the time she would have been naturalized, they were living with Ellen's 3rd husband, George (or John) Ricker... in Orange County, Vermont. Have on idea where they would have gone to be naturalized. 1920 Census, Thetford, Orange Co, VT, Judd District. Soundex B400, Vol 7, E D 44, Sheet 8, Line 89. Hattie Bailey, age 49, born Canada. Immigrated 1879, Nauralized 1884. Enumerated with son, Archie A Bailey. 1900 Census, Strafford Town, Orange Co, VT. Soundex B400, Vol 7, E D 149, Sheet 4, Line 11. Joseph Baley, age 40, born Jan 1860, Canada French, Citizenship: Alien. Immigrated in 1875. Wife Hattie Baley, age 31, born March 1869, Canada French, Citizenship: Naturalized. Immigrated in 1882. Son Archable, age 9, born Feb 1891, Vermont. Son Earnest age 7, born Nov 1892, Vermont. Daughter Ellen M, age 4, born May 1896, Vermont. Daughter Julia E, age 1, born June 1898. Not expecting you have this information (naturalization record) in Rutland County, but felt it worth a shot to inquire. I am in Orange County, Vermont. Let me know if I can help you with anything from this area. Thanks... Tootsie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.12.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tootsie, It's unlikely your Gr-Grandmother was the one who went to court to be naturalized. It was either her father or her husband. When the head of the family was naturalized, it was automatic for the rest of the family in the household. You have my email.... Send me what info you have on your Gr-Grandmother and I'll see what I can find when I get a chance. Please include every detail you have connected to her including siblings, children, all possible locations, rumors and so on. It all helps. I'll see what I can find. Please make sure you identify anything that considered family rumor or suspected information. Best of luck, Sara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: _Tootsie_ Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.12.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sara She sure did! I've emailed her... and she me. Thank you both, again. I didn't see the "extra" information in the scan. There were two pages, but one was for someone else, also named Joseph, also a Frenchman. What I saw was basically the same information from the index. Can't tell, at this point, if this Joseph Bushey is related to me. Did not include any additional family members, as I had hoped. I do know that my great-grandmother was naturalized, from a soundex record. No idea where, and she was underage at the time. Questionable about who her father was, but it doesn't seem to be Joseph as he was naturalized long before she was born. Even so, appreciate your time and effort in making these available to researchers. I do a lot of look-ups for others, from resources [passed on to me by my late sister] at my fingertips, or locally. You've encouraged me to start getting more of this out there to the public. Think I need a committee!! haha There is enough to keep me busy for a LONG time. Thanks again Tootsie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.12.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tootsie, It was a good thing to request this copy - it has some really good extra information. Yes, it was a lot of work, but I loved it and it made me feel great to be able to provide it. I finished it on the 4th of July! I am very grateful to CatHabes for her generosity and post space. It would be best to give her thanks yourself. That will put a smile on her face because she did a LOT in making it pretty and so much more. Best of luck... Sara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.11.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: check your mail - best of luck! BTW - birthyear is 1832, not 1834 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.10.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry for the delay - you have mail Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.10.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Flo, Naturalization records are records for immigrants becoming American Citizens. I'm sorry, but only adult males over 21 years of age are listen in these. It is also not very likely that there was an obituary for a 2 year old. Not to say that it wouldn't happen - just unlikely. Sorry I can't be of help in your request. Sara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Source, Rutland (VT) Daily Herald--Sat. Sept. 6, 1947. PITTSFORD, VT. MRS. FRANK RABITOR. Sept. 5--Mrs. Minerva Rabitor, 54, of Pittsford, wife of Frank Rabitor, died tonight at the Proctor (VT) hospital after a long illness. Surviving Mrs. Rabitor are her husband, and a sister, Mrs. Epps E. Sinclair of Rutland. Funeral services will be held Monday at St. Dominic's church at 9 a.m. Burial will be in the church cemetery. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: _Tootsie_ Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.12/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sara Thank you for making these available. You have done a great job indexing the records. Very generous of you! Please send thanks along to Cathy Habes also. I have dial-up, my email is [email protected] Would appreciate the record for Joseph Bushy - Frenchman - Quebec - Lower Canada - 1821 Image on dsc 04027 Vol 1, page 262 Bless You! Tootsie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Conlet Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.11/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow! What a lot of work you have done. I hope you realize how much it is appreciated! I would love to have any information on the following person: Image # dsc03315 Vol: 3 Page: 547 Ap Date: 1860-09-22 Name: John Baker Irishman Kerry DOB: 1834 Thank you so much for your time. Conlet [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geniebug523 Surnames: Pitts, Younglove Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4801/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could anyone help me find out if there is anyone from the Pitts or Younglove family buried in a Pawlet, VT cemetery. I don't know if there is more than one cemetery or not. Or if someone could tell me if there is a book that can be purchased of Pawlet cemeteries, that would help also. Thank you for any assistance you can give. Eileen [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4800/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nov 24, 1863 Rutland Herald Summary of article: Rutland had to fill a quota of 125 soldiers. As of November 10, they were 90 short. If they didn't make the quota by January 5, 1864, the quota would be upped by another 215 men, for a total quota of 340 men. To avoid this, Rutland voted to offer local men a $500 bounty and men from other towns a $200 bounty to enlist at Rutland and fill the Rutland quota. Henry Hinckley of Rutland was the first $500 man to volunteer. My note: Henry Hinckley had already served and been mustered out earlier in 1863. This was his second enlistment. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I do not have a list of the other "$500 men" or of those who came from elsewhere and sought the $200 bounties. However, I have posted a list of about 850 men from Rutland considered liable for military duty in 1863: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/1801/mb.ashx I also contributed a list of 1863 Rutland area draftees to the "Vermont in the Civil War" website: http://www.vermontcivilwar.org/draft/rutland.php If you are looking for a particular individual who might have served, the "Vermont in the Civil War" website is a great resource. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angeline Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [VTRUT] Henry HINCKLEY, 1863, "first $500 man" > Do you have the names of the enlisted men from Rutland? If so, would you > list them? Thank you. > Angeline Perry Miller [email protected]

Do you have the names of the enlisted men from Rutland? If so, would you list them? Thank you. Angeline Perry Miller [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: [VTRUT] Henry HINCKLEY, 1863, "first $500 man" > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: cathabes1 > Surnames: > Classification: biography > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4800/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Nov 24, 1863 > Rutland Herald > Summary of article: Rutland had to fill a quota of 125 soldiers. As of > November 10, they were 90 short. If they didn't make the quota by January > 5, 1864, the quota would be upped by another 215 men, for a total quota of > 340 men. To avoid this, Rutland voted to offer local men a $500 bounty > and men from other towns a $200 bounty to enlist at Rutland and fill the > Rutland quota. Henry Hinckley of Rutland was the first $500 man to > volunteer. > > My note: Henry Hinckley had already served and been mustered out earlier > in 1863. This was his second enlistment. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > List administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >