This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4781.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am sorry I have not seen your message earlier, I do not regularly surf the message board. If you would have replied under one of my naturalization posts I would have received an email notifying me of your request. I'll be happy to send you a copy of the John Fitzgerald record you've requested, but you didn't even leave an email address. When you reply to this message with your email address I will get an email saying I need to check the board. To ensure you get your replies properly from any posts, make sure you use the reply button in the post. I'm sure you'll find it easier to get replies. So, send me your email and I'll send your file. Have a GREAT weekend! :) Sara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

~Update~ Thanks to the Secretary of State's Office for free photocopies of my POWERS family found in the Nye Index (an index to all persons who are mentioned in the Manuscript Vermont State Papers). I contacted them by email, and I'd be happy to share it off-list. I am happy to now have a photocopy of 1) the signature of Andrew POWERS [b. ca 1720], my 5 great grandfather, on a Petition for reappointment of Elkanah SPRAGUE as Justice of the Peace, 2) Andrew POWERS' name on 2 VT town charters: Hartland [aka Hertford], Windsor Co., VT, and Pittsford, Rutland Co., VT, and 3) Jonathan POWERS [m. 1820] and his father, Andrew POWERS' signatures on a petition [Vol. 51, page 97] to divert water for a sawmill which was denied in Guildhall, Essex Co., VT, after the War of 1812-14. Happy searching, Janice Jordan <[email protected]>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sara_Noonan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.13.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Check your mail.... Have a GREAT weekend! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holly9491146 Surnames: Canfield, Daley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.14/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Name is Robert E Scanlon EMAIL [email protected] I would like the full Naturalization records for my GG grandfathers listed on your Rutland county Naturalization index as follows: dsc03888 Vol 2 Page 151 John Daley from MAYO DOB 1796 DSC03815 Vol 2 Page 293 Thomas Canfield from Klikenny DOB 1827 Thanks to Sara Noonan for this index Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: regrebniew Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.13.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Sara. Thanks for all your hard work. I'm looking for a Naturalization Record image for Arthur Cain, b 1821: dsc04033 1 250 [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Fri. May 22, 1914. DANBY FOUR CORNERS, VT. Memorial day services will be held in the church next Sunday morning at 9:15 o'clock. Music will be furnished by the Stafford orchestra of South Wallingford. Raymond Haskin received a fractured leg recently while running a foot race. Wendell Davison, the young son of Mr. and Mrs. Eugene Davison who was so seriously injured in the mechanism of a separator, has nearly recovered. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Fri. May 22, 1914. DENNIS COPPS DEAD. West Rutland Man Had Been Seriously Ill for Over a Week. Dennis F. Copps died at the home of his sister, Mrs. D. J. Davine of West Rutland yesterday afternoon, after an illness of several weeks. His condition was not considered serious until about a week ago when he became much worse, small hope being entertained for his recovery for the past few days. The cause of is death was due to a congestion of the lungs together with complications. Mr. Copps was born in West Rutland 49 years ago and has always resided there. He was educated in the public schools and for 25 years prior to 1908 was engaged as salesman for the Vermont Marble company in their store, leaving their employ to engage in business for himself. Besides his sister with whom he made his home he is survived by three brothers, James F. Copps of Talladga, Ala., Michael J. Copps of Schuyler, Va., and William H. Copps of Marble, Col. The funeral arrangements have not yet been completed. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Fri. May 22, 1914. RUTLAND, VT. PERSONALS. Miss Dorris (sic) Wardwell of Woodstock is spending a few days at the home of Mr. and Mrs. M. H. Loukes of State street. Mr. and Mrs. George E. Chalmers of No. 33 West street, returned yesterday after a trip through the South. A.C. Mason of Grove street returned yesterday after a trip to Burlington and Montreal. Mrs. G. M. Ordway of Proctorsville is spending a few days with Mrs. Charles S. Corliss of Church street. Miss Marjorie Jones of Cuttingsville is visiting Miss Elizabeth Weir of Grove street. Miss Alice Johnson of Boston is visiting Miss Amanda Torkleson of Center Rutland. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Fri. May 22, 1914. Page 3. RUTLAND, VT. NEWS OF THE CITY : WHITNEY STROLLS INTO LOCAL STORE. Frank Whitney of West Salisbury, who disappeared Tuesday morning from his home, and for whom a posse had been searching, wandered into the F.B. Howard jewelry store here yesterday morning, evidently suffering from some mental disease. The proprietor, Frank B. Howard, knew him, communicated with his brother, E. J. Whitney of West Salisbury, and the latter came in an automobile yesterday afternoon and took his brother home. The man is said to be only temporarily demented, owing to overwork and family illness. Frank Whitney left home Tuesday morning, drove to Brandon and left his team in a barn there. He is a state road commissioner for his district, and a well-to-do farmer. He did not know how he reached this city, but it was discovered that he came by train. He did not know where he had stopped in Brandon, or what he had done since reaching Rutland. While talking to Mr. Howard he burst into tears. Physicians say he may readily recover, if he can be induced to stop worrying. Mr. Whitney is 44 years old. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Fri. May 22, 1914. RUTLAND, VT. NEWS OF THE CITY . RUTLAND BRIEFS : Miss Eugenia Baker is ill with measles at her home on Park street. Mrs. L. D. Batty of Proctorsville visited in this city yesterday. Mrs. Frank Andrus will entertain the members of the Okemo club at her home Tuesday afternoon, June 2. The club met yesterday afternoon , Whist was played at four tables. Mrs. George Patterson, who is ill at her home on Park street, is in a critical condition. The Ladies auxiliary to the Brotherhood of Locomotive engineers will hold a whist party this evening in the dining room of Odd Fellows' hall in the Buxton block. The committee in charge is Mrs. A. W. Mack, Mrs. George Cady and Mrs. George Kenney. The funeral of Biaggio Valente of No.78 Franklin street, who died Wednesday afternoon, was held yesterday afternoon at 3 o'clock in St. Peter's church. Rev. J. M. Brown, pastor of the church, officiated. The burial was in Calvary cemetery. Mr. and Mrs. Henry Carpenter of Ferrisburg, who have been the guests of Solomon Carpenter of No.100 Park avenue, have returned. In an interclass baseball game played on Baxter's lot yesterday afternoon, the junior team won from the senior's nine by a score of 10 to 8 in a 10 inning game. The game was a pitchers' battle from the start, Proctor, for the juniors striking out 17 men and giving four men bases on balls, and Capt. Gilbert striking out 11 men for the seniors, giving five men bases on balls. Foster for the juniors made a home run in the 10th inning. C. T. Frink of Randolph Center, a Civil war veteran and member of the G.A.R., attended the recent Congregational conference in this city. It was his first visit here for 53 years, the former occasion being on May 8th and 9th, 1861, when as a member of the 1st Vermont regiment, he was mustered into United States service and departed for the front, being among the first to respond to Lincoln's call for troops. Strobell and Earle, civil engineers, of this city, and Balcom and Stebbins, civil engineers, of Claremont, N.H., have consolidated under the name of the Northern Engineering company, and will have their headquarters in this city in the offices formerly used by the firm of Strobell and Earle. Men were busy all day yesterday pouring water on a fire which started in the rubbish near the southeast corner of the fair grounds. The firemen from station No.1 were called out about 6 o'clock Wednesday evening to extinguish the fire which had a good start when they arrived, but this morning it was found necessary to look after it again. No damage was done. The Rutland Business Men's association will hold a luncheon at the Bardwell hotel next Thursday at noon. The young men and boys of the city are to be invited by the members of the association to attend as their quests, and it is expected that President John M.Thomas of Middlebury college will be the guest speaker. Mrs. Augusta Schreiber, mother of Dr. F. H. Gebhardt of Cottage street, yesterday purchased the house at No.43 Washington street, owned by A.A. Prouse. Dr. Gebhardt and his mother will move to the house about July 1. The formal opening of the Rutland Country club will take place tomorrow, when tea will be served. A 1914 Studebaker Touring car has been delivered to Cleo D. Morse by the distributors , the Frenier Automobile company of this city. The Poultney Automobile and Machine company of Poultney has purchased a five passenger Maxwell car from R. V. Allen of this city. Michael Ryan of Evelyn street and William Ryan of Meadow street have been called to Providence, R. I., by the death of a relative. A variety shower was given Wednesday evening at the residence of Mr. and Mrs. William Moulten of Stratton road in honor of the approaching marriage of their daughter, Miss Maline Porte to Merton Soulia, of Elm street. About 35 friends were present and refreshments were served. The house was decorated for the occasion, a green and white color scheme being used. The young woman received many gifts, including a check from her father. There were three men at the lockup last night. All three, it is alleged were guilty yesterday of intoxication and begging or "panhandling." Two were arrested by Police Officer T. C. Elworth on Evelyn street, while the officer was in plain clothes. The men pleaded physical disability which they did not posses, in getting alms.Their names were not known to the police last night. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4804/mb.ashx Message Board Post: February 4, 1905 The Washington Bee Where the "Good Die Old" According to the records of the town clerk's office at Castleton, Vt., there were during the year 1904 12 marriages recorded, 39 births, and 38 deaths. The town has a population of 2,089. Of the deaths, the average age of nine was 85 years and 8 months. The town has been frequently referred to as a place where the "old die good and the good die old." Patrick Dunn, the oldest one who died, was over 90 years. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4803/mb.ashx Message Board Post: February 5, 1880 Rutland Daily Herald and Globe State News The house occupied by Michael Mahar of Fairhaven caught fire last Wednesday and was considerably damaged inside before the flames could be checked. [Source newspaper was the Era.] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Mike: Oh you don't know how hard I have tried to get records out of Castleton, but when you no longer live in Vermont it is near to impossible without being there to do your own research. I have written to the Historical Society and they have told me that the records aren't available until after 1850ish because there had been a flood. I do what I can every couple of years when I go back, but from visit to visit the information trail gets cold. Maybe some day after I retire I can go back, throw away the world, except me and my curiosity and sit and go thru the dusty records. Out of curiosity did you find the records in Castleton, or were they in Middlesex. I also am guessing from I have found on line, there are many Castleton records in Fair Haven, and I would bet some could be found in White Hall. I also need to commend the girls who put a tremendous amount of info on the Vermont site, they do a great job. Without them the Vermont records would be much harder to find on line. Gosh Mike, you could be another Abby Hemmingway and digitize the records for the entire state (ha ha) Anyhow, you have a great site, I wish my family name began with a "D" Thanks again for putting the records on line. Joyce -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VTRUT] Castleton Town Tax Records, 1832-1901 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MikeSchAAA Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.ru tland/4802.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joyce, Thanks for your kind words. The amazing part is that there are records like this for every town in VT and Rutland Co (except as I understand Poultney which had a fire). And the funny part is I didn't even know they existed till I stumbled across them. Can you imagine a project to digitize all the grand lists and town reports in all the towns in the county? Be daunting but a remarkable contribution to the stock of primary data available on the Web. Maybe somebody will get a grant or something and do it. The other funny part is that in Washington Co right across the border none of this stuff is public -- security and identity-theft concerns, as I was told. Seems silly for the 19th century but there you have it. Vermont seems like a paragon of open government compared to NY. And Patty was right that the town clerk and staff were great. Enough rambling, mainly I wanted to say thanks for your words and hope you find what you're looking for. Peace, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. List administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MikeSchAAA Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joyce, Thanks for your kind words. The amazing part is that there are records like this for every town in VT and Rutland Co (except as I understand Poultney which had a fire). And the funny part is I didn't even know they existed till I stumbled across them. Can you imagine a project to digitize all the grand lists and town reports in all the towns in the county? Be daunting but a remarkable contribution to the stock of primary data available on the Web. Maybe somebody will get a grant or something and do it. The other funny part is that in Washington Co right across the border none of this stuff is public -- security and identity-theft concerns, as I was told. Seems silly for the 19th century but there you have it. Vermont seems like a paragon of open government compared to NY. And Patty was right that the town clerk and staff were great. Enough rambling, mainly I wanted to say thanks for your words and hope you find what you're looking for. Peace, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: regrebniew Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4764.13/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Sara. Thanks for all your hard work. I'm looking for a Naturalization Record image for Arthur Cain, b 1821: dsc04033 1 250 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PattyPickettBrogren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I second Cathy's support for all of the hard work you have done in documenting the lives of your family members. So many people do not have access to anything like this and I think it is quite wonderful. The Town clerk must have been very supportive and helpful too. Part of my family resided in the same area and the name is Donnelly, so your inclusion of all "D" names will be wonderful for me as well!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi researchers, a) For a certified photocopy of a vital record [birth, marriage or death] at a local town clerk's office the charge was increased from $7.00, to $9.50 to $10.00 before 8/28/07. * b) For a certified photocopy of a vital record ordered online at http://www.vitalrec.com/vt.html or through the Public Records Dept., Drawer 33, Middlesex Complex, Montpelier, VT 05633-7601 [telephone 18028637275] the cost is usually $10.00. * c) For a noncertified vital record photocopy at a local town clerk's office when the record is 100+ years old the charge is usually $2.00. Happy searching, Janice Jordan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MikeSchAAA Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cathy you are a godsend. What a dope I am. Of course, people are borrowing money. Credit in lieu of banks. But then how do we distinguish between actual transfers of property and this lending/borrowing? I suppose by looking at the grand lists! Holy smokes. Thank you for your dead-on response, that explains a lot. This is my first time working with these kinds of land records and the fact is I've found them pretty confusing. Thanks too for the reference to a resource I should've been familiar with. Best to you and keep up the great work, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Another possibility is that the land wasn't actually being bought and sold. I found several situations among Ira and Rutland deeds in which someone who needed money would deed their property to a neighbor or relative for an amount and then agree that the deed would be void if the money was paid back with interest within a certain amount of time. The land itself never changed hands. For example, on November 19, 1855 Bernard Higgins of Ira deeded four and a half acres of land in Ira to James Mumford of Rutland for $59. He agreed to repay the money with interest in one year or forfeit his property. By mortgaging his property to James Mumford, Bernard Higgins was able to raise ready cash without actually selling his property. James Mumford, meanwhile, was able to make interest on his money by lending it to Higgins, with the knowledge that Higgins property would be his if Higgins defaulted on the mortgage. In another situation, in 1856 Artemus Cooke deeded land to James Mumford for $450. But James, not having the full price, immediately deeded the same land to Bradley Fish for $200. Mumford had to pay Fish $100 plus interest by January 1, 1857 and $100 plus interest by September 29, 1857 or forfeit the property. In a third situation, in April 1871 Patrick and Jane Mcginly of Rutland mortgaged their homestead to Patrick H. Mumford of Rutland for $1200. (Mcginly's first wife, by then deceased, had been a Mumford.) Mcginly gave Mumford 6 promissory notes of $200 each, the first being due with interest on May 1, 1872 and one being due with interest each May thereafter. Donal F. Begley, in "Irish Genealogy, A Record Finder" remarks that this was a usual practice and that "the original mortgage was more usually made between relatives or connections by marriage, the idea being that such family links provided some additional security." I don't know if this applies to the records you refer to, but these were situations of people lending each other money rather than actually buying and selling property, so taxes might not have applied. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoyceGrady21 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4802.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Very nice site. I am searching for the Castle and Hartwell families from there and it is more than difficult trying to find info when you are on the other side of the world. Hopefully I will find some info on my line with all the hard work you have done. Good job and thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.