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    1. [VTRUT] McGUIRE, McGARRY, RILEY births, 1880
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: McGuire, McGarry, Riley, Reilly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4840/mb.ashx Message Board Post: March 2, 1880. Rutland Daily Herald and Globe. BIRTHS. McGUIRE - In West Rutland March 1, a son to Mr. and Mrs. James McGuire. [My note - Based on the 1880 census, this seems to be Eddie, son of James H. and Mary McGuire.] August 10, 1880. Rutland Daily Herald and Globe. BIRTHS. McGARRY - At West Rutland, August 9, a daughter to Patrick and Mary McGarry. RILEY - At Center Rutland, August 9, a daughter to Roger and Bridget Riley. [Note - Based on St. Bridget's Cemetery inscriptions, Catherine McGarry was born to Patrick and Mary in 1880 and died in 1894. Note - Based on the 1900 census, Margaret Reilly was born to Roger and Bridget Reilly in Aug 1880.] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    11/01/2007 10:19:49
    1. [VTRUT] CAIN-CARMODY marriage, 1880
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Cain, Carmody, Gelot Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4839/mb.ashx Message Board Post: November 23, 1880. Rutland Daily Herald and Globe. MARRIAGES. CAIN-CARMODY - In Rutland November 22 at the French Canadian church, by Rev. Father Gelot, Mr. Michael Cain of Pittsford and Miss Bridget Carmody of Middlebury. After and excellent entertainment, partaken of by the bridal pair and their many friends, the happy couple left Rutland at 3:30 pm for Saratoga, NY. The newly married couple have the wishes fo a large circle of friends for a long and happy life together. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    11/01/2007 09:57:54
    1. [VTRUT] McDERMOTT death, 1880
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: McDermott Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4838/mb.ashx Message Board Post: December 22, 1880. Rutland Daily Herald and Globe. DEATHS. McDERMOTT - At the Women's Hospital, New York City, Dec. 16th, Maggie McDermott, aged 21 years, 1 month, and 4 days, daughter of Thomas and Bridget McDermott of Shrewsbury, Vt. Although circumstances placed her the humbler walks of life, nature bestowed upon her that intelligence of mind, integrity of character and purity of purpose, which won her the friendship and respect of all who knew her. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    11/01/2007 09:46:18
    1. [VTRUT] McGUIRK run-in with brakeman, 1880
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: McGurk, McGuirk, Valiquette, Putnam Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4837/mb.ashx Message Board Post: November 19, 1880. Rutland Daily Herald and Globe. Local Notes. A son of John McGurk (sic) of West street on Wednesday climbed on the 1:30 pm train out of Rutland over the Bennington and Rutland railway, and was kicked off by a brakeman. The boy was taken to Dr. Putnam's office and thence home, his injuries having been found of no greater extent than a bruise on the thigh. Yesterday, before Justice Valiquette, the brakeman was fined $2 and cost, $7.66, which he paid, for assault. [Note - the 1880 census lists this household as John and Alice McGuirk with children Francis, 19, Charles, 16, William, 13, George, 11, and Alice, 4. Francis and Charles were employed; William or George were in school.] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    11/01/2007 09:37:39
    1. [VTRUT] Irene Page, Shrewsbury, Vt.
    2. Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Wed. Sept. 24, 1947. RUTLAND, VT. MRS. IRENE BARRETT PAGE. Mrs. Irene Barrett Page, wife of Howard C. Page of Shrewsbury, died at the Rutland hospital last night after a short illness. Mrs. Page was born in Windsor, Vt. December 27, 1919, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Charles A. Barrett, who now reside in Rutland at 15 Lincoln avenue. In addition to her husband,she is survived by her parents, two brothers, John and Charles of Rutland, and two sisters, Mrs. Philip Swerbenski and Miss Esther Barrett of Albany, N.Y. Mrs. Page was a member of the church of Christ the King, where the funeral will be held Friday at 9 a.m. Burial will be in the East Clarendon cemetery. Clifford Funeral home is in charge of arrangements. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

    11/01/2007 08:24:25
    1. [VTRUT] WINTER, Lawrence obituary
    2. Don
    3. Source, Brown's Funeral Home website & Fern Prairie Cemetery records. Camas, Clark, Washington Lawrence WINTER Lawrence Raymond WINTER passed away 10-28-07, in Vancouver, Washington, at the age of 92. He was born 8-5-15 in West Haven, Vermont to Edwin and Olma WINTER. Larry fought fire and built roads for the Department of Natural Resources for 25 years. He enjoyed travel, woodworking, and especially, visiting with family and friends. He was preceded in death by Bette, his wife of 29 years and Lola, his wife of 31 years. Survivors include his children; Dennis WINTER, Marsha STONEHOCKER, Kristie NELSON, Paul WEBER and Laura OROZCO, as well as many beloved grandchildren and great grandchildren. Services will be held at 11:00 am Thursday, 11-1-07, at Brown's Funeral Home in Camas. Graveside services will follow at 2:00 pm at the Fern Prairie Cemetery. Brown's Funeral Home and Cremation Services in Camas has been entrusted w/arrangements. --------------- (additional data:) Burial Fern Prairie Cemetery - section 1, block 7, lot 4 Bette M. (CROFT) WINTER - died 18 April 1972 - buried Fern Prairie Cemetery - section 1, block 7, lot 3 --------------- Transcribed by, Don Finel [F.P.C. volunteer] Fern Prairie Cemetery website - http://www.rootsweb.com/~wafpc/ Brown's Funeral Home website - http://www.brownsfh.com/home.html (photo of Mr. WINTER shown on F.H. website)

    10/31/2007 06:30:12
    1. [VTRUT] Charles Patno (Pateneau?) wed to Julia Coates 1850, VT
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mbsoul331 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4836/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the parents of Charles Patno or Patneau/Patenaude, etc. could have been born in 1813 in France OR 1803 in Canada, was married to Julia Coates in VT 1850. She apparently was 20-30 years his junior. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/29/2007 08:10:41
    1. Re: [VTRUT] Sarah Hart and Zebulon Cole
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BarbaraLowry24 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/2681.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank You, I just could not find out who her people were. Might I ask where you found this information? Are you related to Sarah Hart? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/27/2007 06:52:42
    1. Re: [VTRUT] Sarah Hart and Zebulon Cole
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aldo1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/2681.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sarah Hart's grandparents were William Mellus and Sarah Hart Balch Mellus married in 1716 in Scituate Mass. Their son William Mellus was born 1721 and his daughter was Sarah Hart. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/27/2007 01:51:08
    1. Re: [VTRUT] John Dunn Center Rutland Tenement
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gerrydunne125 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4821.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes. The accident was on 10 February 1893 if I remember correctly. I had a good look through the information posted from the street directories and this John Dunn looks like a close match. It would be interesting to find out how long he continues living at that address as I know that my g-grandfather was back in Belfast by April 1897. I assume that there would be no surviving work records from the companies from that period. What part of Tyrone did your father come from - that might provide another clue. Would it be safe to assume that most of the Dunn's listed in the street directories would have been related in some way. One thing I forgot to ask was if there are any books on the area. My father is 81 now and I am sure that he would love to see a book that tells the story of the area and has accompanying pictures. Again many thanks for the help. Gerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/22/2007 09:08:39
    1. Re: [VTRUT] John Dunn Center Rutland Tenement
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stonepegger Surnames: Dunn Dunne Patten Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4821.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If that is your John in the Vermont Marble Co. tenement in Center Rutland in 1895, we could speculate that he had enough of quarry work after his close call in that big accident, (Sorry I dont have the date of that accident for anyone else following this thread), and had moved over to the mills in Center Rutland. By this time Vermont Marble had bought out Sheldon Marble and several other firms. We could also speculate that he got a quarry job at Sheldons through my grandfather Pat Patten who was a quarry boss. Pat was Tyrone born and may have been glad to help out folks with Tyrone connections. Speculation is fun but not always accurate! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/22/2007 08:32:36
    1. Re: [VTRUT] Silver Dollar
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4833.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Gene, Thanks for confirming the folklore element of this story. I thought it sounded like a tradition of some kind. Based on the details of your story it sounds like it wasn't tied to one place or ethnicity either. Thanks for sharing! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/22/2007 07:24:51
    1. Re: [VTRUT] silver dollar
    2. Catherine Habes
    3. Thanks, Gene. Interesting that the saying was commercial. Maybe the coin was in a leather case because it was sold specifically as a commercial keepsake.- a memento for weddings or graduations or other rites of passage.. As for value - wings spread! So not rare. But I think my mother was once told that, based on the year and the mint marking, it was worth about $30. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Warner" <[email protected]> I was a rare coin dealer for a number of years. I have seen > similar "keep this and you'll never be broke" lines, on many coin > souvenir items. I doubt that it is tied to any particular group of > people. If however the eagle on the back of your silver dollar is > standing, with his wings folded, you may have a fairly valuable coin on > your hands, depending on it's condition. If the eagles wings are spread > open, it is a fairly common silver dollar, but even an average coin has > a little value today. > Gene Warner

    10/22/2007 03:55:32
    1. Re: [VTRUT] John Dunn(e) West Rutland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PattyPickettBrogren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4821.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1895-1896 Directory Dunn, Charles, teamster, True Blue Marble Co, WR Dunn, Frank C, clerk, Merchants Ntl Bank, bds 11 Cottage Dunn, James, Berwick House Billiard Parlor, 37 Wales Dunn, Mrs. James C., H Cottage Street Dunn, James C., ( J. W. Cramton & Co.), h Cottage street Dunn, Jasper, mason, h 35 Wales Dunn, Jesse A., machinist, h 47 North St. Dunn, John H. Vt Marble Co tenement 43 Center Rutland Dunn, John J. baker Hoag's House, 28 Nichols Dunn, Mary, nurse, H 46 Nichols Dunn, Mary E. emp at H.H. Baxter's residence Dunn, Michael, carpenter, H 30 Baxter Dunn, William H, law student, J.C. Jones, H 3 Cottage St Dunn, William L., night hostler, H 28 Nichols Street 1897-1898 Dunn Bros. & Co., plumbers and dealers in stoves, heaters, house furnishing, 14 Merchants Row Dunn, Charles, teamster, True Blue, WR Dunn, Frank C (Dunn Brothers & Co.) bds 11 Cottage Dunn, Helen, domestic @ 99 Wales Dunn, James, Berwick House Billiard Parlor, 37 Wales Dunn, James C., Mrs. H 11 Cottage Dunn, James H., Billiard Parlor, 37 Wales Street, H 45 Engrem Avenue Dunn, Jesse A., machinist, H 81 Park Dunn, John clerk, CCS Co., H 45 Crescent Dunn, John J. Baker, Hoag's, Bds 125 State St Dunn, William L. hostler H 120 Maple 1889-1890 Dunn, Daniel, farmer Bds, Central House Dunn, James, Coachman, G. Reynolds, H. 18 Wales Dunn, James C., Jr. clerk Dunn and Cramton, H 3 Cottage St Dunn, Jasper, Mason, H 38 Forest Dunn & Cramton, stoves, etc Dunn, James C. (Dunn and Cramton), H 3 Cottage Dunn, Michael, Bds 54 South Dunn, Nancy C., Mrs. H 12 Elm Street Dunn, Thomas, Bds, 54 South Dunn, Wm. E., clerk, W. S. Smith, H Madison, corner of Strongs Ave 1905-1906 Directory Notice that one John Dunn is a fireman for the Rutland Railroad curiously enough. Dunn, Bros, plumbers and dealers in stoves heater, house furnishings goods, etc., 14 Merchants Row and Evelyn. Dunn, Charles, farmer,Pleasant St., WR Dunn, Daniel, mechanic, boards 74 Grove Dunn, Frank C. (Dunn. Bros) H 18 Mansfield place Dunn Hall, fourth floor Dunn Bldg, Merchants Row Dunn, James C ( Dunn Bros) H 11 Cottage St Dunn, Mrs.James C., H 11 Cottage Dunn, James H., Billiard Parlor 37 Wales, H 45 Engrem Ave Dunn, John, clerk, CCS Co., H 95 Crescent Dunn, John, laborer, H Castleton Rd, W. Rutland Dunn, John C., Fireman, Rutland Rail Road, H 44 Engrem Ave Dunn, John J., baker, bds 125 State Dunn, Michael W., Carpenter Dunn, Patrick J., emp Scale Works, H 33 Strongs Ave Dunn, William H. lawyer, NY, boards 11 Cottage Street Dunn, Wm. L., hostler, H 25 Hopkins St. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/21/2007 06:59:16
    1. Re: [VTRUT] Silver Dollar
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EugeneOliver Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4833.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cathy, A similar thing happened with my Grandfather, he gave my oldest son, I think it was a new quarter, and repeated the saying almost word for word, except there was no pouch but he told him to keep it in his pocket. My Grandfather, a farmer in southern Virginia, was a storehouse of such folklore sayings. I don't know for sure, but I don't think he was Irish. Gene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/21/2007 06:57:19
    1. Re: [VTRUT] silver dollar
    2. Gene Warner
    3. I was a rare coin dealer for a number of years. I have seen similar "keep this and you'll never be broke" lines, on many coin souvenir items. I doubt that it is tied to any particular group of people. If however the eagle on the back of your silver dollar is standing, with his wings folded, you may have a fairly valuable coin on your hands, depending on it's condition. If the eagles wings are spread open, it is a fairly common silver dollar, but even an average coin has a little value today. Gene Warner

    10/21/2007 12:13:26
    1. Re: [VTRUT] Silver Dollar
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4833.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, Peter! Ha-ha! I agree that it would DEFINITELY have to be called your bottom dollar! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/21/2007 11:45:05
    1. Re: [VTRUT] Silver Dollar
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stonepegger Surnames: Glutus Arsenault Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4833.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hmmm? If you kept it in your back pocket, would that be your "bottom dollar"? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/20/2007 01:40:17
    1. [VTRUT] twine of benson vermont
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dolcegab79 Surnames: twine/ thouin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4834/mb.ashx Message Board Post: im looking for a melvina twine also known as vina twine born abt 1863 1864 whos father was lewis twine and ellen twine of benson well according to a professinal genealogist i hired she told me vina was born orwell vermont but i find it hard to belive because i see in the 1870 and 1880 census shes living with her parents in benson and she was born canada is there any twines living at that time in orwell being born any help would be apriciated email me at [email protected] thanks michael Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/20/2007 01:12:50
    1. [VTRUT] Silver Dollar
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4833/mb.ashx Message Board Post: When my grandfather married in 1921, his father(who was Rutland born of Irish ancestry) gave him a silver dollar in a tiny leather case. "Don't spend this," he said, "and you will always have a dollar in your pocket." My grandfather passed the coin in its little leather case on to my mother and she passed it on to me. This sounds to me like it might be a more widespread "tradition" of some kind. Has anyone heard a similar family story? Is it related to the Irish? To a section of the US? To a particular historical period of hard times? Just wondered if anyone was aware of this being "traditional" in some way. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/20/2007 09:36:50