Thank you very much for your information. I think that William R Owens born 1887 married Catherine E (maiden name unknown) Born 1890 and had 2 children Jeanette/Janet M & William H - On 1920 census they were in Ohio and in 1930 back in Poultney. I think I can dismiss Mary Roberts as a relative now so I will try to track the Welsh roots to find the earlier link between the Owens and Pickerings as well as trace the rest of the descendants of Robert W Owens and Jane Thomas. Many thanks for all your help. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol McK Sent: 11 December 2007 04:45 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VTRUT] Mary Roberts, in Poultney, Vermont in 1910 Mary Roberts [widow of Robert H.] on the 1910 Poultney census was probably nee PARRY. The two gents living at that address were both boarders. The census shows the word "boarder". If you saw a transcription that said otherwise, it must have been a typo. Pickering married Mary Morris, daughter of Rev. John W. and Mary. Moved to Granville, NY. Unsure which William Owens William R is [in order to find his wife]. The names of children of Robert W Owens and Jane Thomas follow. There was one other child; don't know name. Jane gave birth to 16; 12 lived. Jane 3/1876 Wales Elizabeth 2/1881 Wales Owen 3/1883 Wales Nellie 2/1885 Vermont William 3/1887 Vermont Benjamin H 12/1889 Vermont [twin] Carrie 12/1889 Vermont [twin] Edward R 7/1890 Vermont Robert W 10/1891 Vermont Annie/Anna 1/1895 Vermont Catherine/Katherine 9/1899 Vermont There was another William R Owens of Poultney; this one son of Morris Owens and Elizabeth Jones and about 20 years older. [Info from census, cemetery records and Poultney town reports.] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jackie Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: [VTRUT] Mary Roberts, in Poultney, Vermont in 1910 In Poultney Vermont there is Mary Roberts (widow) born 1866 in Wales mother to Edith Roberts age 7 and Elvira Roberts age 5. With them is William R Owens born in Poultney, 1887 and the census says he is the brother to head of household (Mary) If anyone can tell me how to confirm the maiden name of Mary Roberts, I List administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Source, The Poultney Journal--Fri. July 6, 1928. PAWLET, Vt. Thelma Palmer of Hampton is visiting her grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. W. H. Moore. Harris Moore and family spent Sunday with Mr. and Mrs. Clifford Palmer in Hampton. A large number of grangers attended service Sunday morning in response to the invitation of Rev. Elmer Haley. Guy, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. D. C. Herrick, is in the Mary Fletcher hospital, Burlington, seriously ill with pneumonia, caused by a clot of blood in the lung resulting from an operation for appendicitis. Oscar Hubbard is building a piazza to the bungalow which he built to replace the Helen Bromley house which was burned a year ago. Mr. and Mrs. Frank VonStembel of Torrington, Conn.,called at W. G. Young's on their way to Montreal on Saturday. Chicken thieves have again started operations in this section. Cecil Dodge lost 30 valuable White Leghorn hens one night last week. Chickens were also stolen from three other places on the Middletown Springs road the same night. Miss Dorothy Owes of Middle Granville, N.Y., has been secured as principal of the High school for the coming year. Miss Marrows returns as teacher of the grammar room, and Miss Charlotte Marsh of West Rutland will have the primary room, formerly taught by Miss Doris Barrows. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, The Poultney Journal--Fri. July 6, 1928. MIDDLETOWN SPRINGS, Vt. A daughter was born recently to Mr. and Mrs. Lawrence Gemmel. Miss Alice J. Gates was a weekend guest of her brother, Owen S. Gates. Miss Mildred Leffingwell of Brandon spent the weekend with Mrs. Amelia Leffingwell. Mr. and Mrs. Henry Wolcott of Rutland were Sunday guests of the latter's father, James Dudley. Mr. and Mrs. Henry Gates and two daughters of Poultney were Sunday guests of Mrs. Alice Gray. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Mary Roberts [widow of Robert H.] on the 1910 Poultney census was probably nee PARRY. The two gents living at that address were both boarders. The census shows the word "boarder". If you saw a transcription that said otherwise, it must have been a typo. Pickering married Mary Morris, daughter of Rev. John W. and Mary. Moved to Granville, NY. Unsure which William Owens William R is [in order to find his wife]. The names of children of Robert W Owens and Jane Thomas follow. There was one other child; don't know name. Jane gave birth to 16; 12 lived. Jane 3/1876 Wales Elizabeth 2/1881 Wales Owen 3/1883 Wales Nellie 2/1885 Vermont William 3/1887 Vermont Benjamin H 12/1889 Vermont [twin] Carrie 12/1889 Vermont [twin] Edward R 7/1890 Vermont Robert W 10/1891 Vermont Annie/Anna 1/1895 Vermont Catherine/Katherine 9/1899 Vermont There was another William R Owens of Poultney; this one son of Morris Owens and Elizabeth Jones and about 20 years older. [Info from census, cemetery records and Poultney town reports.] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jackie Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: [VTRUT] Mary Roberts, in Poultney, Vermont in 1910 In Poultney Vermont there is Mary Roberts (widow) born 1866 in Wales mother to Edith Roberts age 7 and Elvira Roberts age 5. With them is William R Owens born in Poultney, 1887 and the census says he is the brother to head of household (Mary) If anyone can tell me how to confirm the maiden name of Mary Roberts, I

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stillsixreborn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/15.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My apologies to anyone who answered my post. I lost track to things and never saw your replies. I have never seen a marriage certificate. My information is taken from the will of Isaac Harlow of Whitehall,NY, and the information provided by the executor, John S. Rogers, a son in law. He mentions the children of Hester Hummiston (who is deceased by 1856 probably in Rutland, Vt where she is found in 1850). They are listed as Rollin, Isaac, Julia, Alvira, Roxanna, Asahel 2nd, Eunice. All but Rollin as listed as minors under the age of 21 and it is also mentioned that they reside somewhere in Wisconsin. Rollin is mentioned in Rutland, Vermont. Hester was one of twelve daughters born to Isaac and Abigail Harlow. Their only son, Gordon died in 1850. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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I was wondering if anyone can help me unravel the complexity of an entry on 1910 USA federal census, In Poultney Vermont there is Mary Roberts (widow) born 1866 in Wales mother to Edith Roberts age 7 and Elvira Roberts age 5. With them is William R Owens born in Poultney, 1887 and the census says he is the brother to head of household (Mary) . There is also a Thomas Edwin Pickering in the household which has been transcribed as 'brother' but I believe should be boarder and I am wondering if this may also now be the case with William R Owens too. William R Owens parents were Robert Owens and Jane Thomas both born in Wales in 1854 making it highly unlikely that he was brother to Mary as that would make her parents only 12 at the time of her birth! I am trying to trace both the Pickerings and Owens lines as Thomas E Pickering is definitely from my family line as he was a cousin to my great grandmother and when she died in 1907 her husband then married a Elizabeth Emily Owens so I am trying to find out if these two 'boarders' were in fact related. If anyone can tell me how to confirm the maiden name of Mary Roberts, I would be most grateful. I will try to trace any sibling of William R Owens but if you can be of any assistance I would be most grateful. Many thanks Jackie Cheshire, England.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wswood Surnames: Young Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/250.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching my Young line in Vermont. The following is all I have on them. I know they came from Rutland Vermont and ended up in Cass County Michigan. Any help would be great. Thanks! Generation No. 1 1. ISAAC1 YOUNG He married RUTH. Child of ISAAC YOUNG and RUTH is: 2. i. WILLIAM2 YOUNG, b. Apr 17, 1798, Rutland, VT; d. Dec 16, 1879, Howard Township, Cass County, MI. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM2 YOUNG (ISAAC1) was born Apr 17, 1798 in Rutland, VT, and died Dec 16, 1879 in Howard Township, Cass County, MI. He married ELIZABETH. She was born 1802 in Pensylvania, and died May 11, 1870 in Cass County Michigan. Children of WILLIAM YOUNG and ELIZABETH are: i. LORENA3 YOUNG, b. Aug 17, 1821; d. Mar 18, 1887; m. CORRAL MESSANGER. 3. ii. ANN YOUNG, b. 1826, New York; d. Bef. 1922. 4. iii. MARY E. YOUNG, b. May 27, 1836, Howard Township, Cass County; d. Feb 10, 1880, LaGrange twp. Cass County, MI. iv. ROBERT G. YOUNG, b. Sep 1853; d. Apr 25, 1878. Generation No. 3 3. ANN3 YOUNG (WILLIAM2, ISAAC1) was born 1826 in New York, and died Bef. 1922. She married (1) JEREMIAH V R PERKINS Dec 23, 1846 in Cass County Michigan, son of JVR PERKINS. He was born Abt. 1822 in New York, and died Feb 25, 1856 in Michigan. She married (2) WILLIAM AUSTIN CURTIS Feb 17, 1861 in Howard twp. Cass county Michigan, son of WILLIAM CURTIS and LAURA MERRICK. He was born Aug 23, 1838 in Westfield, Chautauqua, New York, USA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Births registered in the Town of Poultney, Vermont for the year ending December 31, A.D. 1887: No. 10 March 11 William Owens, male, born Poultney, VT, parents Robert & Jane Thomas Owens. Occupation of father: Quarryman. Place of birth for father and mother: Wales. Janice J.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brent1371 Surnames: Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4851/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I'm interested in the Jones names in Orwell, Vermont. Some of them came from Saybrook Connecticut. Art Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kapaa19561 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4692.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Minot Farmer was born in Bolton or East Windsor, Connecticut in 1780.  He was in Mendon, Vermont on 11 March 1806 before living in Rutland, Vermont in 1810-1811. Minot Farmer had several children from a previous marriage. Minot was living in Chazy, New York in 1826-1838. Minot married Lucinda (Hickok) Stiles after her husband Daniel Hickok died in 1826. Minot Farmer, Lucinda (Hickok) Stiles/Farmer, Leonard Farmer, Lucretia Farmer, Lucius Stiles, Rueben Stiles, Rachel Stiles and Irena Stiles left Chazy, New York to settle in Troy, Pennsylvania. Minot bought land in Troy Township in October 1838 from Ebenezer Avery  He sold this land to Lucius Stiles and Julius C. Farmer in March 1839. Minot was not living in Troy, Pennsylvania with Lucinda in 1840. Lucinda died in Troy, Pennsylvania in 1865. I was unable to trace Minot from 1840 in any record in the U.S. There is a Minot Farmer in the 1841 Canadian census. Ansel D. Farmer was born in Rutland, Vermont. Ansel lived in Marquette County, Wisconsin in 1850 with his wife Harriet and family. Ansel died in Inverness, Michigan in 1870. Personal family trees posted show Ansel to be the son of Minot Farmer and Polly Hoisington but I was unable to link Ansel to Minot Farmer with any records. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmbutts1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4850.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathabes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4850.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a picture postcard of Brock House advertised on ebay. Even if not interested in buying it, you can see it at http://cgi.ebay.com/Rutland-VT-Brock-House-Color-PC_W0QQitemZ200173509044QQihZ010QQcategoryZ20239QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem Or go to ebay and type in "Brock House Rutland" in search. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmbutts1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4850/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a relative on the 1920 Census - lists him as the Proprietor of a Hotel by the name of Brock House on South Main Street in Rutland Vt. Was wondering if it was still there? or what took it's place? Pictures? Thanks Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Brock house is no longer there. I can't tell you the exact year it was torn down but, it couldn't pass fire codes and would be to expensive to fix it. At the end it was used to house the Sisters of Saint Joseph. It is now a parking lot for Christ the King church. I think the Rutland Historical Society (www.rutlandhistory.com) would probably have a more recent photo than the postcard. What was the family name? Rosemary "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmbutts1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.rutland/4850/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a relative on the 1920 Census - lists him as the Proprietor of a Hotel by the name of Brock House on South Main Street in Rutland Vt. Was wondering if it was still there? or what took it's place? Pictures? Thanks Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. List administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Tues. Nov. 15, 1938. HATTIE BERRY PEABODY. PITTSFORD, Vt., Nov. 14--Hattie Berry Peabody, 78, wife of Henry Holt Peabody, died at her home here early this morning. Funeral services will be held Wednesday afternoon at 2 o'clock at the house. Mrs. Peabody was born at North Easton, Mass., August 24, 1860. She first came to Pittsford 60 years to teach in the old Hudson district school. She is survived by her husband, Henry Holt Peabody, a daughter , Mrs. F. J. Plimpton of Harrison, N. Y., two sons, J. Holt Peabody of Brandon and George H. Peabody of Mount Holly, N. J. ; also two sisters, Mrs. H. S. Dowden of Sandwich, Mass., and Mrs. John M. Williams of North Easton, Mass. A son , Daniel P. Peabody of White River Junction, is dead. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

There are some Haradons buried in East Clarendon cemetery. In fact that is were Ora Haradon , 1811- 1856, is buried. Joan H. Bixby

Source, The Poultney Journal--Fri. Feb. 3, 1928. MIDDLETOWN SPRINGS, Vt. Mr. and Mrs. Norris Leffingwell were in Crescent, N.Y., this week, where they attended the funeral of Rev. Algernon S. Clark, retired Methodist minister, whose death at the age of 82 occurred at the home of his son in New York city on Thursday. Mr. Clark was a grand old gentleman of the highest type of godliness, and had often visited here. He was an uncle of Mrs. Leffingwell. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, The Poultney Journal--Fri. May 18, 1928. LOCAL BRIEFS : David J. Roberts, jr., caught a 2+1/2 lb. trout Thursday afternoon. The Woman's Foreign Missionary society met Friday with Mrs. H. A. Matot. Constance Lee won in the sixth grade spelling contest at T.C.A. for the year. Miss Betty Jones ranked fourth in the state spelling contest held in Rutland. The Ladies' Aid Society of the Welsh church held a ten-ten party Tuesday afternoon. The Woman's Relief Corps are planning to serve dinner to the firemen, Friday, June 15th. The East Poultney Baptist church will hold a food sale at the Citizens Bank, Saturday afternoon. Misses Helen and Frances Sheloski of Rutland have come to Poultney where they have employment. Mrs. Patrick Hogan has returned from the Rutland hospital where she underwent an operation three weeks ago. The Woodstock High school team defeated the T.C.A. team in the interscholastic debate held Monday night. The Eureka parent Teachers' Association will hold a meeting at the school hall Friday night at 7:30 o'clock. Mr.and Mrs. Henry Harris have purchased the brick house on Grove Street formerly owned by Mr.and Mrs. Ellis Rowland. The Ladies' Aid Society of the M.E. church will serve dinner to the public in the vestry Thursday, May 24th from eleven o'clock on. Misses Sadie Owens, Ethel Edminster, Janet Richardson, Betty Baker and Janet Schwartwood attended the Older Girl's conference in Rutland last week. The spelling contest winners Friday were: Grade 1, Alta Jean Ferguson ; grade 2, Raymond Ruby; grade 3, Elizabeth Spaulding; grade 5A, Arthur Williams. E. R. Donahue, H. D. Fenton, M. Lynch, E. O'Donnel, P. J. Carmody, William Minogue, John McMorrow, O.W.McShane and J. E. Sennet attended the Democratic convention in Burlington this week. Funeral services for Mrs. Frank Gould of Middle Granville, were held Monday from St. Raphael's church. Interment was in St. Raphael's cemetery. Mrs. Gould was formerly Miss Margaret Kickum of Hydeville and was a sister of Mrs. Andrew Elliott of this town. Mrs. G. H. Norton, Mrs. Harry M. Griffin, and Mrs. F. H. Graves attended a bridge luncheon Saturday at the home of Mrs. Levi Ayres in Granville, N.Y. at which Mrs. Gray Haskins of Granville and Mrs. Porter Johnson of West Pawlet were joint hostesses. Miss Ruth Roberts, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. owen Roberts, and John W. Owens, were married at the Trinity church by Rev. A. C. Wilson Wednesday afternoon. They were attended by Mr. and Mrs. W. W. Owens. After a wedding trip they will reside at the bride's home. The Poultney people who were in Granville to attend the funeral of Rev. J. W. Morris Thursday were; Mr. and Mrs. W.J. Morris and family; Mrs. W. G. Morris; Mrs. T. O. Jones, Mrs. Ella Garitty, Mrs. Seth Roberts, Mrs. Jonah Hughes, T. O. Williams, Emerys Ellis and Mrs. D. J. Roberts and children. "Guest Day" was observed at the regular meeting of the Rotary at the Academy parlors on Thursday. The speaker was Oliver D. Ward of Rutland, and his talk was most interesting. George Norton led in the singing, and Miss Cuoco of the Academy sang most pleasingly two numbers, accompanied by Miss deGrys. The elementary division of the piano classes of Mrs. Helen Kilburn and Miss Hazel Bresee gave a recital at the studio on Thursday. The follwing took part ; Lorraine Roberts, Esther Wallace, Gretchen Holmes, Veontha Ward, Alice Ida Noble, Irene Mahar, Anna Vogel, Thelma Palmer, Mary Shank . Pearl Botsford and Carolyn Dailey were unable to play because of illness. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, The Poultney Journal--Fri. Feb. 3, 1928. EDWARD J. BROWN DIES AT 88 IN CHICAGO. Edward J. Brown, for many years a resident of here and in Granville (N.Y.), died at the home of his son,, in Chicago, on January 17. He was born in North Granville eighty-eight years ago, and went west when a young man, where he and Miss Electa Weaver of Batavia, Ill., were married, and to them were born three sons, James G., who died some years ago, Edward, who died in infancy, and William. Deceased was one of the most congenial hotel proprietors this section ever knew, and conducted the Poultney House, Crescent Valley house at Pawlet, Inn at North Granville, and the hotel at Middle Granville at different times. In 1890-1 he managed Hotel Hygeia, also called "Oakdale" at Lake St. Catherine a splendid hostelry on the site which now belongs to A. G. Schmidt of Bronxville, N.Y., and which constitutes a very popular settlement during the summer season, with its Lake View House and several cottages. This hotel was very well patronized, and Landlord Brown's cordiality and attention, coupled with a first-class cuisine, was responsible for it. He was the last of a family of six children, Henry, Wallace, Anson, Edward and Clayton Brown, and Mrs. Luthira Brown Cree, all of whom were born in North Granville (N.Y.). Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby