Vermont Does this ELIJAH born 1808, JACOB JEFFERSON b. 1812, JOHN b. 1816, and REUBEN b. 1818, belong to this family? Or did they belong to a brother to John? JOHN PALMER and Ruby (Phoebe) RAMSDELL. She was born abt. 1888. Children: ROBERT RAMSDELL b. July 22, 1810 DAVID b. 21 Dec 1820 AARON b. Jun 6 1823