Noreen do you want to send me your email address and I will send you a few Pierce sites....

I did find Charles Nelson Pierce's parents they are Jerediah Pierce and Demaris Swift Pierce from Fairlee VT. Eliza was one of Jerediah and Demaris's daughters... Don't know if that is your Eliza or not. This Eliza married a Gillette from VT she died in Grafton. Jerediah was a son of James Pierce ...

In a message dated 6/2/2003 5:38:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Rorybrme4@cs.com writes: > <A HREF="mailto:Rorybrme4@cs.com">Rorybrme4@cs.com</A> do you have any information on a Clarence Pierce b.abt 1890 from Fairlee VT.that married a Ruth Carr b.5 sept.1892, from Orford NH.(just across the conn.river) sometime in the early 1900's ? they resided in Mt.Holly NC.he was an engineer for duke power co .they had two daughters. yhank you george carr

Jeanne, Thanks so much for your posting about the Pierces. As I said I know that my Caroline Pierce Whitney's fther was Amos and that according to VT cenesus records he came to Vermont from somewhere in Massachusetts. Do you have alot of information on Thomas of Woburn,MA ? Is there anything in the 30 pages that lady gave you that mentions an Amos or some part of the Pierce family moving to Vermont by any chance? Is Thomas Pierce in Frederick Clifton Pierce's book on the Pierces or did the woman get her info from another source? If so what sources does she use? I've read excerpts of Pierce's book online but since its only excerpts not everything is there one doesn't always find the person (s) they're looking for. I've been trying to get a copy of that book to borrow....I may get hold of it through the New England Historical Genealogy Society but have to renew my membership there first. Perhaps I'll find out about Amos in Pierce's book. If I'm lucky it will state that Amos moved to VT just like Pierce's book on the Whitneys led Fred Farnham Whitney who wrote about the Tunbridge,VT Whitneys to make the connection to Benjamin Whitney of Pepperell,MA and in turn made me be able to connect my great grandmother Zina Whitney Jones to them. It's so frustrating when you can't find the information you're looking for on a particular ancestor and thus are missing a piece or pieces to the puzzle. I hope that you'll eventually find Charles's parents,hopefully sooner than later. If I come across anything I think might help you I'll pass it along to you. If you see anything in your research on Amos,his brother?Hiriam or on Amos's daughter Caroline or his wife Caroline please contact me as soon as you can. I'd really appreciate it. I'll go to Family search and see if I can find this Caroline you mentioned though I think that Caroline was born in MA whereas my Caroline probably but not positively was born in Warren,Vermont. Noreen Maloney LaTour Burlington,Chittenden Co.,VT

Dear Noreen, I have my genealogy of my Pierce line from my Dad, Charles Nelson Pierce his Dad Edgar Pierce and so on down to James Pierce of Derryfield, NH and on down to Thomas of Woburn Ma, where I grew up. There is also a Caroline Eliza Pierce on Familysearch.com I have been to Fairlee many times but never could find Charles Nelson Pierce's parents. I wonderful women sent me a 30 page genealogy on my Pierce's. She also found a letter written by one of Charles Nelson Pierce's nephews and in it he lists Charles and all his siblings, one of which is an Eliza. Hope this helps. Let me know. Jeanne P.

To answer your question,yes, the Pierce in my great great grandfather James Pierce Whitney was a family surname. His mother's name was Caroline Pierce and his father was Joseph Whitney. ( My only brother has our mother's maiden name Osborne as his middle name too.) I don't have much information unfortunately on Caroline Pierce's family. They are one of my brick walls. What little I I've been able to find out about them has been either through my grandmother who is now deceased or through census records. Caroline was from Warren,VT. Her son James Pierce Whitney was born in Tunbridge,VT as was his father Joseph. Caroline and Joseph divorced at some point in time,a rare thing in the mid 1800's.Caroline is not buried in Tunbridge next to Joseph,who's grave I've visited. From the census I've been ale to determine that Caroline was named after her mother Caroline but I don't know what her mother's maiden name was. Her father was Amos Pierce and according to one census he was from Massachusetts. Where in MA it doesn't state so here is another dead end for me on my Pierce line. I strongly suspect he is somehow connected to an old MA Pierce family. I've seen the Pierce name often in my researching my family tree in old MA (Presently I have 37 ! lines in my tree going back to the 1600's in MA) I've seen how time and time again these old New England families intertwined through marriage too. One day I hope,as all we genealogists do,that I'll get a lead that will knock down this brick wall for me. (If anyone out there knows anything about these Pierces I'd be most appreciative if you shared what you know with me.) Noreen Maloney LaTour Burlington,VT

Well, John, I was partly right: My notes show I documented FITTS last fall @ Southview, Randolph. Not the ones you ask for. This is a very large monument : Avery, Abby, Lucina, Carlos B. Pratts, Henry, Eliza: all born 1809 or after. Now that the snows are gone we hope to get out in the field and do more documentation...... after I get out of this leg brace! Will also see what I can find out @ the town clerks office Harriet

Noreen, How nice to hear from you. I have been wondering for some time how I am ever going to find the parents of my G G Grandmother Eliza Whitney. It was a great feeling to receive your message. I guess I didn't think I would hear from anyone right away. I am a retired Boeing Engineer who was born and raised in Michigan and became interested in genealogy several years before retiring. The family bible had a death recorded for Eliza Whitney Rice and we had no idea who she was. Several months ago I was contacted by a researcher who had Eliza married to my G G Grandfather Samuel Arnold. Ever since then we have been slowly getting more and more information about her children. Now, maybe with your help we can find who her parents and ancestors were. I recently purchased at a used book sale a book titled The Whitney Family of Connecticut by S. Whitney Phoenix but so far I have found no family in that book that would connect to Eliza. My Stewarts came from Cape Cod in early 1700. A John Stewart married Agnes Harvey in Brimfield, MA and I am a descendant of their son John Harvey Stewart who raised his family in Bloomfield, NY. I am looking forward to hearing from you again. Arnold At 10:18 PM 5/29/03 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Arnold, > >Looks like you & I are distant relations.My great grandmother Zina Whitney >Jones was the daughter of James Pierce Whitney & Rosina Goodell Whitney. >James father was Joseph Whitney and Joseph's father,who was my 4th great >grandfather, was Abel Whitney. Abel came with some of his brothers from >Pepperll,MA to Tunbridge,VT in 1791. Their father was Benjamin Whitney and >all were descendants of John and Eleanor Whitney who came to Watertown,MA >in 1635.There's a Whitney Hill in Tunbridge and Watertown,both of which >I've been to. In Tunbridge many of the Whitney homes are still standing today. > >I was able to make the connection between my MA and VT Whitneys with the >help of a book at the University of Vermont in their special collections >department. Fred Farnham Whitney,who was a life long resident of >Tunbridge, wrote the book in 1977. Although he didn't include all of the >names of the Vermont Whitneys he did list several not in his direct line >which was lucky for me as that's where I found my 3rd g grandparents >listed. The book is no longer in publication. since it's in the special >collections dept and therefore can't be taken out or gotten through >interlibrary loan ....I'll try to get up to the University on a day I have >off either this week or next and see if there's anything on the 2 women >your'e looking for. > >I also have an address for VT Vital Records in Middlesex where all town >records are now held. It's late and I need to be going to bed but will >look tomorrow to see where I stored the information and then pass it on to >you. I also have the address of town clerk in Tunbridge where they still >have some records stored and website address as well of Tunbridge that may >help. I'll send that on to you tomorrow too if you want. I also have tons >of info on the Whitneys both in VT and MA if your'e interrested. Also >have photos of trips to Watertown,Tunbridge including some gravestones.Let >me know if any of this would help you and I'd be glad to share it with you. > >Well gotta hit the hay as 6:30 a.m. comes real early. Catch ya tomorrow >"cousin". > >Noreen Maloney LaTour >Burlington,VT > >P.S. It's ironic that your last name is Stewart .....my daughter is now a >Stewart through marriage and thus so is my granddaughter. If I ever get my >family tree done I may do my son in law's.....maybe I might need a hand or >two from you then. > > >==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== >I like newbies. Newbies are my friends. A newbie I haven't met yet >has the key to my elusive ancestor. Please don't insult or patronize >my friends on this list. -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Anybody have information on John Fitts, b ca 1789, VT (1850 census). d ca 1862; md Phelena Copeland? Thanks, ken knight

I would love to know if the "Pierce" in James Pierce Whitney was a family name.

Hi Arnold, Looks like you & I are distant relations.My great grandmother Zina Whitney Jones was the daughter of James Pierce Whitney & Rosina Goodell Whitney. James father was Joseph Whitney and Joseph's father,who was my 4th great grandfather, was Abel Whitney. Abel came with some of his brothers from Pepperll,MA to Tunbridge,VT in 1791. Their father was Benjamin Whitney and all were descendants of John and Eleanor Whitney who came to Watertown,MA in 1635.There's a Whitney Hill in Tunbridge and Watertown,both of which I've been to. In Tunbridge many of the Whitney homes are still standing today. I was able to make the connection between my MA and VT Whitneys with the help of a book at the University of Vermont in their special collections department. Fred Farnham Whitney,who was a life long resident of Tunbridge, wrote the book in 1977. Although he didn't include all of the names of the Vermont Whitneys he did list several not in his direct line which was lucky for me as that's where I found my 3rd g grandparents listed. The book is no longer in publication. since it's in the special collections dept and therefore can't be taken out or gotten through interlibrary loan ....I'll try to get up to the University on a day I have off either this week or next and see if there's anything on the 2 women your'e looking for. I also have an address for VT Vital Records in Middlesex where all town records are now held. It's late and I need to be going to bed but will look tomorrow to see where I stored the information and then pass it on to you. I also have the address of town clerk in Tunbridge where they still have some records stored and website address as well of Tunbridge that may help. I'll send that on to you tomorrow too if you want. I also have tons of info on the Whitneys both in VT and MA if your'e interrested. Also have photos of trips to Watertown,Tunbridge including some gravestones.Let me know if any of this would help you and I'd be glad to share it with you. Well gotta hit the hay as 6:30 a.m. comes real early. Catch ya tomorrow "cousin". Noreen Maloney LaTour Burlington,VT P.S. It's ironic that your last name is Stewart .....my daughter is now a Stewart through marriage and thus so is my granddaughter. If I ever get my family tree done I may do my son in law's.....maybe I might need a hand or two from you then.

Hello Noreen, I just realized I have a 7th great grandfather named Benjamin Whitney through my Sawtell line. Could you tell us more about your Benjamin Whitney? Perhaps references I could check. Thanks! Marcia Huntley Maloney Tustin, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "neroots" <neroots@adelphia.net> To: <VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: [VTORA] Re: Whitney family > Hi Arnold, > > Looks like you & I are distant relations.My great grandmother Zina Whitney Jones was the daughter of James Pierce Whitney & Rosina Goodell Whitney. James father was Joseph Whitney and Joseph's father,who was my 4th great grandfather, was Abel Whitney. Abel came with some of his brothers from Pepperll,MA to Tunbridge,VT in 1791. Their father was Benjamin Whitney and all were descendants of John and Eleanor Whitney who came to Watertown,MA in 1635.There's a Whitney Hill in Tunbridge and Watertown,both of which I've been to. In Tunbridge many of the Whitney homes are still standing today. > > I was able to make the connection between my MA and VT Whitneys with the help of a book at the University of Vermont in their special collections department. Fred Farnham Whitney,who was a life long resident of Tunbridge, wrote the book in 1977. Although he didn't include all of the names of the Vermont Whitneys he did list several not in his direct line which was lucky for me as that's where I found my 3rd g grandparents listed. The book is no longer in publication. since it's in the special collections dept and therefore can't be taken out or gotten through interlibrary loan ....I'll try to get up to the University on a day I have off either this week or next and see if there's anything on the 2 women your'e looking for. > > I also have an address for VT Vital Records in Middlesex where all town records are now held. It's late and I need to be going to bed but will look tomorrow to see where I stored the information and then pass it on to you. I also have the address of town clerk in Tunbridge where they still have some records stored and website address as well of Tunbridge that may help. I'll send that on to you tomorrow too if you want. I also have tons of info on the Whitneys both in VT and MA if your'e interrested. Also have photos of trips to Watertown,Tunbridge including some gravestones.Let me know if any of this would help you and I'd be glad to share it with you. > > Well gotta hit the hay as 6:30 a.m. comes real early. Catch ya tomorrow "cousin". > > Noreen Maloney LaTour > Burlington,VT > > P.S. It's ironic that your last name is Stewart .....my daughter is now a Stewart through marriage and thus so is my granddaughter. If I ever get my family tree done I may do my son in law's.....maybe I might need a hand or two from you then. > > > ==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== > I like newbies. Newbies are my friends. A newbie I haven't met yet > has the key to my elusive ancestor. Please don't insult or patronize > my friends on this list. -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Charli, James Mills b. about July 1768 of Lunenburg married Mindwell Slack on Feb. 7, 1796 New London, NH. They were married by Job Seamans minister Town Records, p. 323. The IGI shows also the marriage occuring in New London CT. The five Children recorded to James and Mindwell were Laura b. Nov. 2, 1796, m. John Bailey. James Harvey Mills b. Mar. 9, 1798, Charles Searmans Mills b. Sept 10, 1799, Jonas b. Apr. 28, 1801 and William Mills b. Apr. 1, 1803. (Ref. Manuscript. by Betty Post). If you write me at home I can give you more. Shelley (nee Mills) ----- Original Message ----- From: <IndigoMother@aol.com> To: <VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [VTORA] Searching for Mills from Essex County > Thanks for the information and the links. The Mills DNA project sounds > interesting. I don't have much information on William, other than he was born > 4-1-1803 and was the youngest child of Deacon James Mills and his wife (?) Seamons. > Our family history ends right there. According to census records, there were > no Mills in Essex County in 1790, but the family's presence is recorded in > 1800. There was some family link to Maine as James Harvey apprenticed there with > an uncle. I am not familiar with Orange County (as of yet!) > > Again, thank you for the links, I will most certainly check them out! > > Charli > > > ==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== > There is a reasonable expectation that messages on this list > will have some connection with Orange County, Vermont genealogy. > What that means is up to you. -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Am looking for anyone researching the Bartlett family in Morgan, Orleans Co., Vt. and surrounding area, and Thetford, Orange Co., Vt. I believe my Bartlett family from Thetford, Orange Co., Vt. ties into this family as my Foss and Gardner family married into the Bartlett family and lived in both Thetford and Morgan. I am particularily looking for parents of Priscilla Bartlett. According to IGI she was born in Thetford around 1779 and married Josiah Foss in Thetford. They eventually moved to Derby, Vt. where my grgrgr grandmother Sally/Sarah Foss was born in 1805. I believe Priscilla's father may have been a Samuel Bartlett as her and Josiah's first son was named Samuel Bartlett Foss. There was also a Samuel Bartlett listed on the 1790 census for Thetford. Other information that makes me want to tie these Thetford Bartlett's with the Morgan Bartletts is the following info I came across in the NEGHS register: Abstracts from Volume I. of the Probate Records of Orleans County, Vt. "(17-21) Administration on the estate of Gideon Bartlet, Missisquoi, was given to Enos Bartlet, Duncanboro, and Sarah Bartlett, 1 May 1802; appraisers and commissioners appointed; list of creditors. At a court held 6 Oct. 1802, said Bartlet is styled late of Troy (Vt.). At a court held May 1809, an account rendered gives the names of those who received cash payment: Samuel Bartlett; "myself" (Enos Bartlett), Gideon Bartlett, Priscilla Foss, Betsey Holmes, Polly Rynes, Nabby Sias; to the widow "her thirds." Anyway, hoping someone might also be researching these Bartlett's. Sincerely, Toni Feeney Saco, Me. Free Downloads of books and book excerpts at http://www.tfeeney.esmartbiz.com/page7.htm

Toni, Get the book "Robert Bartlett of the "Anne" and his Descendants to Four Generations" compiled by Robert S. Wakefield. It's published by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. $10 plus shipping.Order online, It has a #46 Priscilla b. Duxbury, Mass. Jan 1696/97 d. there 7 Jul 1758. She m. there 31 Jan 1718 John Samson. Nine children. Maybe your Bartlett is from a different line. This was the only Priscilla in the book- no Fosses. Ken Newton a Bartlett descendant ----- Original Message ----- From: "tfeeney" <tfeeney@xpressamerica.net> To: <VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: [VTORA] Bartletts > Am looking for anyone researching the Bartlett family in Morgan, Orleans Co., Vt. and surrounding area, and Thetford, Orange Co., Vt. I believe my Bartlett family from Thetford, Orange Co., Vt. ties into this family as my Foss and Gardner family married into the Bartlett family and lived in both Thetford and Morgan. > > I am particularily looking for parents of Priscilla Bartlett. According to IGI she was born in Thetford around 1779 and married Josiah Foss in Thetford. They eventually moved to Derby, Vt. where my grgrgr grandmother Sally/Sarah Foss was born in 1805. I believe Priscilla's father may have been a Samuel Bartlett as her and Josiah's first son was named Samuel Bartlett Foss. There was also a Samuel Bartlett listed on the 1790 census for Thetford. > > Other information that makes me want to tie these Thetford Bartlett's with the Morgan Bartletts is the following info I came across in the NEGHS register: > > Abstracts from Volume I. of the Probate Records of Orleans County, Vt. > "(17-21) Administration on the estate of Gideon Bartlet, Missisquoi, was given to Enos Bartlet, Duncanboro, and Sarah Bartlett, 1 May 1802; appraisers and commissioners appointed; list of creditors. At a court held 6 Oct. 1802, said Bartlet is styled late of Troy (Vt.). At a court held May 1809, an account rendered gives the names of those who received cash payment: Samuel Bartlett; "myself" (Enos Bartlett), Gideon Bartlett, Priscilla Foss, Betsey Holmes, Polly Rynes, Nabby Sias; to the widow "her thirds." > > Anyway, hoping someone might also be researching these Bartlett's. > Sincerely, > Toni Feeney > Saco, Me. > Free Downloads of books and book excerpts at http://www.tfeeney.esmartbiz.com/page7.htm > > > ==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== > List rules at > http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

According to Census records Eliza Whitney was born 18 April 1806 in Vermont. She married Samuel Arnold c 1823 and had two boys, Alvah Nickison and Samuel Alonzo Arnold who were born in Monroe County, New York State. At some point they came to Shelby Twp, Macomb County, Michigan when the boys were very young. A Lucinda (Whitney) Carleton lived with her husband Richard in this same location and we suspect that Eliza and Lucinda were sisters. Lucinda was born in Turnbridge, Orange Co., Vermont. Does anyone have information on this family in Orange Co., VT? Or, do you have suggestions on what records I should search. Arnold on Fidalgo Island near La Conner, Washington State.

Thanks for the information and the links. The Mills DNA project sounds interesting. I don't have much information on William, other than he was born 4-1-1803 and was the youngest child of Deacon James Mills and his wife (?) Seamons. Our family history ends right there. According to census records, there were no Mills in Essex County in 1790, but the family's presence is recorded in 1800. There was some family link to Maine as James Harvey apprenticed there with an uncle. I am not familiar with Orange County (as of yet!) Again, thank you for the links, I will most certainly check them out! Charli

I am looking in Rootsweb now and see a Deacon John Mills in NH I think they are Scotch Irish Most of them stared in NH I remember reading in "The History of Manchester" on line something about the mills family...

Hi-- I am searching for anyone who is a descendant of Deacon James Mills who resided in Lunenburg, Essex, VT sometime after 1790. His wife's maiden was Seamons (no record of her first name) and they had five children: Laura, James Harvey, Charles S., Jonas & William Mills. James Harvey Mills apprenticed in the merchentile business for an uncle in Maine. In 1827 he married Naomi Webster and in 1854 they pioneered to Minnesota where they are both buried. Three generations of the Mills clan picked up and left Minnesota in 1907 after their flour and lumber mills burned down during a drought year. They homesteaded in Fallon Nevada where many Mills now reside. We are interested in learning more about our New England roots and would love to connect with anyone who might be related to James Harvey Mills. Would also like to know if anyone has information on Deacon James Mills and his wife (?) Seamons. If interested, contact my husband & I at this e-mail address. Thanks! Charli & Todd Mills

Charli & Todd Mills Were they in Orange County at one time? I have been researching Mills in Quebec Orange County, Chittenden County and Windsor County. I though I was familiar with all the William Mills in Vermont, however, I'm not familiar with a William with a father of James. Can you tell me more about him? Linked below is some Orange County Mills Resources I found: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~crrking/mills/mills_oldbooks.htm I'm the coordinator for the Mills DNA Project. You may want to participate and see if you connect with any of the Vermont Mills in the project. The link below provides an overview of the results and links to information about joining. http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~crrking/mills/mills_dnar.htm Charlene Chambers at crrking@adelphia.net in Thousand Oaks, CA Missouri Cousin Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~crrking/ My Family Branches, Chambers, Rich, Barnes & Mills Families/DNA Studies: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~crrking/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: IndigoMother@aol.com [mailto:IndigoMother@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:11 PM To: VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VTORA] Searching for Mills from Essex County Hi-- I am searching for anyone who is a descendant of Deacon James Mills who resided in Lunenburg, Essex, VT sometime after 1790. His wife's maiden was Seamons (no record of her first name) and they had five children: Laura, James Harvey, Charles S., Jonas & William Mills. James Harvey Mills apprenticed in the merchentile business for an uncle in Maine. In 1827 he married Naomi Webster and in 1854 they pioneered to Minnesota where they are both buried. Three generations of the Mills clan picked up and left Minnesota in 1907 after their flour and lumber mills burned down during a drought year. They homesteaded in Fallon Nevada where many Mills now reside. We are interested in learning more about our New England roots and would love to connect with anyone who might be related to James Harvey Mills. Would also like to know if anyone has information on Deacon James Mills and his wife (?) Seamons. If interested, contact my husband & I at this e-mail address. Thanks! Charli & Todd Mills ==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== "We dance round in a ring and suppose, But the Secret sits in the middle and knows." -- Robert Frost (He must have been a genealogist.) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237