You are welcome. Sometimes this gets very frustrating!! Good luck. Margaret Calvin >Thank you M. Calvin. This is the closest to what my lady did, I think. Her >husband was from the same area close to the VT/NH border...he must have either >known the family before both left or they met in Iowa..something. I agree..she >must have known someone even a distant cousin. She was very independent in one >way...she switched her first and middle names and forever after was known by >her middle name! >thanks for your input. > > >==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== >Is it true there are more cows than people in Vermont? -- Yup. -- >How'd that come about? -- We prefer 'em. > "Green Mountains and Rock Ribs" pgs. 80-86 > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Shelly Thank you very much. I found a site on the web that says That iv. Benjamin did marry Sarah Mills. here is a link. my connection is through ii. Mark + Mary and there daughter Miriam + James Boyce. Thanks again. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dbatten/banfield.html Steve Thank you also for all the GREAT work on this. Many of the familys in this book are in my line. Jim

Steve wrote: <snip> > Sorry, unfortunately, whoever typed up th eindex made an error. While > the index reads Absalom Brown, the entry is for an Abraham Brown, born > in 1793 and married to Polly Tuttle. > If you are interested in Abraham, let me know. <snip> Steve Yes! The information you have on Abraham will prove very, very interesting! Thanks again, Charlie

Regarding the 30-year-old single woman (a Vermonter, I hope), going to Iowa in 1880: Could have been a lot of things. Husband hunting. Homesteading on her own new land (women could and did do that). Just earning a living somehow or other. Lots of stuff. A book that might help is "The Female Frontier: A Comparative View of Women on the Prairie and the Plains," by Glenda Riley, 1988, University Press of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. My paperback copy is marked $13.95, but I got it for two dollars at my local library used book sale. I've only just skimmed parts of the book, but it appears to deal with your question, in addition to the overall subject of women's lives in general out there. My impression is that, while the image of the wife in tow behind a westward moving husband is probably largely correct around 1880 and earlier, you also need another equally valid image of the westward moving single woman who's on the road for her own reasons, economic opportunity being among those reasons. I note some criticism of cenus takers in this book, by the way. Women heads of household who made their livings by some means other than clothes washing tubs did not necessarily have their occupations correctly listed. Lester Powers Emmert6@aol.com: > Let me ask a general question then...why would a single, 30 yr. old > never-been-married woman head to Iowa in 1880...no family there yet...can someone give > me their thoughts. She was not a teacher, nor a doctor, not any special > profession. > thank you for any thoughts. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I don't have much but if the son (vi) below is Benjamin Banfill sr., then I have a Sarah "Sally" Mills b. Feb. 6, 1782 Corinth that married Samuel Hall on Dec. 28, 1800 Newbury, and then #2 Benjamin Banfill. Benjamin's son Benj. m. Sarah Place on June 13, 1842 Potton, Que. My line is the Mills side so this is about it. Shelley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Donahue" <elfstone@erols.com> To: <VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: [VTORA] Newbury History - Banfield > > Source: Wells, Frederic P, History of Newbury, Vermont : from the > discovery of the Coös country to present time : with genealogical > records of many families > St. Johnsbury, Vt.: The Caledonian Co., 1902, c1900, 857 pgs. > > Page 459 > > Banfield, George, came here, it is believed, during the Revolutionary > war, from Newburyport, Mass. He served in several campaigns, and in old > deeds is called a boat-builder. He m. Anne Sanborn, dau. of one o fthe > first settlers of Orange, Vt. At one time he lived at Wells River, but > much of his life he resided in Topsham. He d. in Newbury, July 1838, > aged 92; his wife a few years later, aged 84. They are buried at the > Lime Kiln, in the "Nourse burying ground." > Children: > i. Anna, m. a Mr. Sawyer of Topsham. > ii. Mark, m. Mary Banfield, of Newburyport. They lived in Corinth. > James Boyce of West Newbury m. their dau. Miriam. > iii. Hannah, m John Batten of Topsham. > iv. Samuel, m. Sarah Eastman of Topsham. They d. in Nashua, N.H. > v. Betsey, m. Ephraim Bagley of Topsham. > vi. Benjamin, unknown. > vii. John, lived in Newbury. > viii. Reuben, m. Miss Gates in Whitefield and had two daus. who m. John > and Peter Goddard of Bethleham, N.H. > ix. George, lived in North Haverhill, but d. and buried at Wells river. > x. Abigail, m. Moses Rowell of Bath. Moses Clark of Newbury m. their > dau. Martha P. > xi. Mary, m. Caleb Rowell of Walden. > > I did a quick check of the index to the History of Newburyport, but > didn't find any Banfields or Banfills. Nor did I find any Banfields or > Banfills in the Newburyport VR's to 1850. > > Happy Hunting > > Steve > > > ____________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: > > Re: [VTORA] Newbury History - A's & B's from the index > > From: > > "James Boyce" <jimmy@htcomp.net> > > Date: > > Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:48:20 -0500 > > To: > > VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Yes, I would be interested in the writeup on Banfield. And thank you very > >much. > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > ==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== > There is a reasonable expectation that messages on this list > will have some connection with Orange County, Vermont genealogy. > What that means is up to you. -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thank you M. Calvin. This is the closest to what my lady did, I think. Her husband was from the same area close to the VT/NH border...he must have either known the family before both left or they met in Iowa..something. I agree..she must have known someone even a distant cousin. She was very independent in one way...she switched her first and middle names and forever after was known by her middle name! thanks for your input.

Harriet Gee. If you need to go to the clerk's office for air conditioning, you might do a little lookup for me there. I'd really appreciate it. By the way, the Randolph deeds I was examining were on an LDS microfilm. I live in California, too old and especially too poor to get to Vermont. Alas, the LDS has no film for the Randolph town records (meaning minutes of the town meetings and that sort of thing). Well. Almena Powers, my great-great grandsister, married Henry Hogaboam at Randolph in December of 1812 (the LDS does have a film of the marriage records, so I have a photocopy of this). Then in September of 1815, Henry, now spelled Hogeboome, took the freeman's oath with his new brother-in-law Jonathan Powers at Guildhall, Essex, Vermont. I wish to stress that everyone involved was not where they were supposed to be, and by the way the town clerks had a merry time trying to spell Hogaboam. Back at the 1812 wedding, Henry Hogaboam and Almena Powers were "both of Randolph," thus residents and citizens of that place with the leaky Bethel border. The big questions are, Where did Henry come from? And when did he arrive at Randolph? And, for that matter, what was Almena Powers doing there???? Who was she staying with? Neither the blushing bride nor the gloating groom belonged at Randolph. If you see the town clerk, a warning out or a freeman's oath for Henry Hogaboam (spelling's wild) would be super. Or any other signs of the presence of Henry Hogaboam. Or Almena. Got the marriage record but nothing else. Family legend has it that Henry's dad went up to homestead in Canada (Ontario), alone, then after awhile sent word back to Saratoga Springs, New York, for his wife and kids to join him up there. The wife and kids made the journey in 1810, but there was an accident at Lake Champlain that killed mom and a couple of the kids. The remaining kids were boarded somewhere near the lake until dad could come to fetch them. Meanwhile, young Henry, age twentysomething, ran off to Vermont for no reason, leaving his now motherless and marooned siblings behind, and two years later in 1812 married the fair and radiant Almena Powers, who had no business in Randolph either. Almena was a daughter of William Powers and Anna Burtch of Hartford, Windsor County, Vermont. The family had gone to Quebec in 1803 to cash in on a cheap land offer. But, eventually War loomed, and the Powers got their tails outta Quebec early in 1812. They returned to Vermont, settling at Guildhall, Essex Co. for no reason, and stayed there until about 1816 when they were run out of town on a rail for allegedly swindling the Johnson orphans. Anyway, in 1812 daughter Almena was supposed to be at Guildhall because her family wasn't supposed to be there but were anyway. She was at Randolph instead. Shame on her. Also at Randolph around the 1812 time slot was Almena's sister Anna Powers, wife of Seth Dexter. Anna had married Seth before the Powers moved to Quebec, so she did belong at Randolph -- the only one of the gang who was properly located. Two of Almena and Anna's uncles were at Randolph as well, Ephraim and Edy Burtch. These two were supposed to be at Hartford, but weren't, which gets us back to having loose firepower on deck again. Seth Dexter was a cabinetmaker at Randolph Center. The Burtch deeds suggest they were more or less on the porous Bethel border or near Randolph Center (landmarks on some deeds include the meetinghouse, a school, and a tavern), or both. Ephraim Burtch may have also been located in the Randolph jail for awhile, about 1807, which I suppose must have been at the village. The problem is to make some kind of sense out of all this. Also to find proof that the various Powers and Burtchs really were related to each other -- that they were a family is still just theory. And to figure out who Henry Hogaboam was, where he came from, and when. If you can find stuff, I'd be grateful. It's a mess, I know. But messes make things interesting. Lester Powers ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

My best guess based on my families migrations would be she knew someone out there. Family - even cousins - friends, etc. Two of my girls left Vermont, went to either Illinois or Iowa - I'd have to check - and the man who later became husband to one, followed them back to Vermont. After the wedding they went back and so did the sister.They ended in Iowa. There are many stories. M Calvin >Let me ask a general question then...why would a single, 30 yr. old >never-been-married woman head to Iowa in 1880...no family there >yet...can someone give >me their thoughts. She was not a teacher, nor a doctor, not any special >profession. >thank you for any thoughts. > > >==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb's Orange County, Vermont Mailing List >Acceptable Use Policy at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Source: Wells, Frederic P, History of Newbury, Vermont : from the discovery of the Coös country to present time : with genealogical records of many families St. Johnsbury, Vt.: The Caledonian Co., 1902, c1900, 857 pgs. Page 459 Banfield, George, came here, it is believed, during the Revolutionary war, from Newburyport, Mass. He served in several campaigns, and in old deeds is called a boat-builder. He m. Anne Sanborn, dau. of one o fthe first settlers of Orange, Vt. At one time he lived at Wells River, but much of his life he resided in Topsham. He d. in Newbury, July 1838, aged 92; his wife a few years later, aged 84. They are buried at the Lime Kiln, in the "Nourse burying ground." Children: i. Anna, m. a Mr. Sawyer of Topsham. ii. Mark, m. Mary Banfield, of Newburyport. They lived in Corinth. James Boyce of West Newbury m. their dau. Miriam. iii. Hannah, m John Batten of Topsham. iv. Samuel, m. Sarah Eastman of Topsham. They d. in Nashua, N.H. v. Betsey, m. Ephraim Bagley of Topsham. vi. Benjamin, unknown. vii. John, lived in Newbury. viii. Reuben, m. Miss Gates in Whitefield and had two daus. who m. John and Peter Goddard of Bethleham, N.H. ix. George, lived in North Haverhill, but d. and buried at Wells river. x. Abigail, m. Moses Rowell of Bath. Moses Clark of Newbury m. their dau. Martha P. xi. Mary, m. Caleb Rowell of Walden. I did a quick check of the index to the History of Newburyport, but didn't find any Banfields or Banfills. Nor did I find any Banfields or Banfills in the Newburyport VR's to 1850. Happy Hunting Steve > ____________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [VTORA] Newbury History - A's & B's from the index > From: > "James Boyce" <jimmy@htcomp.net> > Date: > Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:48:20 -0500 > To: > VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Yes, I would be interested in the writeup on Banfield. And thank you very >much. > >Jim > >

Charlie: Sorry, unfortunately, whoever typed up th eindex made an error. While the index reads Absalom Brown, the entry is for an Abraham Brown, born in 1793 and married to Polly Tuttle. If you are interested in Abraham, let me know. Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [VTORA] Newbury History - A's & B's from the index (BROWN, Absalom) > From: > "Charlie" <fourthestate@fcgnetworks.net> > Date: > Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:07:20 -0400 > To: > VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com > > >The listing is great!!!! >Would like to know about >Brown, Absalom > > > >

To continue the index from Newbury, VT, here are the C's and D's Also, a few more of the requests to go out today. Carbee Chalmers Carleton Carleton, Luella C. (Burbeck) Carleton, Laura B. (Sanborn) Carter, William Carter, Laura J. (McDuffie) Carter, Martha W. (Rowe) Carter, James Carter, Mary J. (Stevens) Chadwick Chamberlain, Thomas Chamberlain, Richard Chamberlain, Adaline (Benton) Chamberlain, Nancy (Caldwell) Chamberlain, Diadama (Scales) Chamberlain, Helen L. (Rumsey) Chamberlain, Moses Chamberlain, Elizabeth E. (Hibbard) Chamberlain, Emeline B. (Fox) Chamberlain, Martha P. (Fabyan) Chamberlain, Sarah A. (Lawrie) Campbell Chapman Cheney Clark, John Clark, Jonas Clark, Catherine (Heath) Cobleigh Coburn Cochrane Cochrane, Nancy (Wilson) Colburn, Ellis Colburn, Elizabeth (Meader) Colburn, Hepzibah (Johnson) Corliss, Timothy Corliss, Samuel Corliss, Mary H. (Knapp) Corliss, David Corruth Crosby Currier Cushing Daily Davis Dean Deming Doe Doe, Lucia (Darling) Davenport Douglass Dow Dowse Dunbar

Could you please send the information about Samuel Corliss from the History of Newbury? Thank you!

Hi Harriet: You mean you don't have AC in your appartment. Did you ever find out anything on the Kimballs ? Stay Cool ! WES KIMBALL

Lester, you mean you were in Randolph and didn't look this ole gal up? Its a wonder. All you have to do is literally look up in the apt. complex there I would have been sweating away. Mom Die, seems like were went from 30 below to 95 with 100% humidity. Anyway, indeed though Bethel is in Windsor County, Randolph Orange, it was/is borderless . Even to this day I find people lived all their lives in say Randolph Center and buried in the Bethel for grips sake in one of the "hollows" cemeteries. I will be posting some information on a tinie cemetery of which I took photos in the "Little Hollow" cemetery. Soon Well, if anyone needs further search on Craine or anyone in Randolph I am steps from the TC office. I bet it is even AC. Harriet Chase

Re the woman heading to Iowa, she might have been homesteading. In South Dakota during that period a number of women were staking tree claims -- you had to live on land for 5 years and then it was yours. Janet K.

My Orange County ancestor, Jonathan Tenney Adams, lived in Tunbridge, married a Vershire girl, Hannah Rackley, and migrated to Genesee County, NY. All of the family (except my great-grandfather who was the eldest child and already an adult) went on to Michigan. Many people stopped in Genesee County for a few years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marguerite Crist Calvin" <cristcalvin@ohiohills.com> To: <VTORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: [VTORA] migration > I have several families from Thetford, Strafford area of VT who went > to Genesee co NY area, then to Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Ind and > points west. Several to Wisconsin. As the land opened, they followed > apparently. M Calvin.Judd, Bean, Beden, Post, Maltby etc. > > > ==== VTORANGE Mailing List ==== > It is more important to BE a good ancestor than to FIND one. > Fortunately, one does not usually have to choose between the two. > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

There was someone looking around for the Crane / Crain outfit a little while ago. No town mentioned, and I don't recall any date approximations, and the name isn't exactly rare. But, anyway, while looking for some people I didn't find at Randolph, in the deeds books, I did notice a Crane / Crain that seemed to be sort of leaking into Randolph from Windsor County, as I recall somewhere around 1810, give or take five years. This is off the top of my head, but I think his seepage may have been out of Bethel. I think it was John Crane / Crain. It's kinda weird. I was looking for a newly found long-lost in-law by the name of Hogaboam at Randolph. Failed to find him, but did see some umpteenth great granduncles Burtch who weren't supposed to be there at all, and one of the land transactions of the Burtchs was with John Crane / Crain -- either that or his place was used as a landmark --, and John was possibly attached to an outfit I had helped someone else with (not related) last year, led by Benjamin Crane but with a mysterious Ebenezer Crane nearby. Small world. This John Crane was evidendly smack dab on the border between Randolph and Bethel, if I recall right, and he did land transactions in Randolph, though he was at least initially a Bethel guy. Ebenezer had a widow Ruth and kids Frank and Don or Dan. Benjamin had a widow Sarah and kids including but not necessarily limited to Amos, Olive (Hamblinton), Anna (Woodward), Abel, Sally (Parrish), Rebeckah(?) (Dunham), and Ruth (Green). And John must have fit in there somewhere, I suppose. The Cranes / Crains of Bethel around 1800 or so were a troublesome lot for researchers. But, it's interesting when they bob about in places where they weren't supposed to be. I've been finding more and more Vermonters making appearances in odd places lately. Lester Powers ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Let me ask a general question then...why would a single, 30 yr. old never-been-married woman head to Iowa in 1880...no family there yet...can someone give me their thoughts. She was not a teacher, nor a doctor, not any special profession. thank you for any thoughts.

I have several families from Thetford, Strafford area of VT who went to Genesee co NY area, then to Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Ind and points west. Several to Wisconsin. As the land opened, they followed apparently. M Calvin.Judd, Bean, Beden, Post, Maltby etc.

I'm convinced hundreds, maybe thousands, left Orange County and ended up in Midwest.  My gt gt grandfather, Irwin Rollins was born in 1829 in Orange County (East Orange and Corinth).  He left with a brother in 1855 for Minnesota Territory (Elgin, near Rochester) where they homesteaded.  He kept written journals from 1855 to shortly before he died in 1895.  These are at the Minnesota History Center in St. Paul, and tell of dozens who came from Corinth to southern MN. Janet K.