Hi there. I am new to the list and am researching my Bates relatives. I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. I believe they also had a sister Ann and possibly a brother Stephen. Naomi married Joseph Persons/Parsons who was a witness at the marriage of Joseph and Hannah Bates, as was a sister of Joseph named Ann. Since Joseph was a minor at the time of the marriage in 1811 it means he was born after 1790. This is not consistent with records found which I believe to be of another Joseph born to Jonathan and Mehitable Bates in 1787 (anyone can see these are two different people by the dates). That info has been going around for years and I want to find out the truth of the matter. DNA tests do not match Joseph (who married Harriet) to the family of Jonathan and Mehitable. If you have any info regarding Oliver Bates or know where else to look or any access to the Drouin Collection or anything else in Quebec and can look up info, can you please do a quick search? Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier

Hi Sande, I looked up the Bates in the BMS2000 DB and found the following three marriages listed in Dunham: Oliver F BATES (no parents listed) Lydia DURKEE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; December 29, 1828 Source: BMS2000 Joseph BATES (no parents listed) Harriet DODGE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; July 21, 1811 Source: BMS2000 Aaron BATES (no parents listed) Esther HARVEY (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; January 29, 1826 Source: BMS2000 Dave Constantine in Boston NetBoie@ComCast.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Hi there. I am new to the list and am researching my Bates relatives. I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. I believe they also had a sister Ann and possibly a brother Stephen. Naomi married Joseph Persons/Parsons who was a witness at the marriage of Joseph and Hannah Bates, as was a sister of Joseph named Ann. Since Joseph was a minor at the time of the marriage in 1811 it means he was born after 1790. This is not consistent with records found which I believe to be of another Joseph born to Jonathan and Mehitable Bates in 1787 (anyone can see these are two different people by the dates). That info has been going around for years and I want to find out the truth of the matter. DNA tests do not match Joseph (who married Harriet) to the family of Jonathan and Mehitable. If you have any info regarding Oliver Bates or know where else to look or any access to the Drouin Collection or anything else in Quebec and can look up info, can you please do a quick search? Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sande, I find the following: 1861 Canada East census, Brome Joseph PERSONS, farmer, 76, b. New Hampshire Naomi Persons, 71, b. New Hampshire Nabby, 35? 55? (bad handwriting) b. C. E. Joseph, 16, b. C. E. Sophia, 8?, b. C. E. Drouin collection - Naomi PARSONS, enterrement 1866, Farnham East Baptist Church Naomi PARSONS, wife of Joseph PARSONS, a daughter of Oliver Bates of the Township of Brome, County of Brome, and Province of Canada. Died Nov. 3, buried Nov. 6, 1866 Minister: Aaron Vitas(?), FWB Minister Drouin Collection - Oliver F. BATES, widower of Township of Shefford & MaryAnn Allard of same, spinster, married 18 Jan. 1838 Signed: O. F. Bates MaryAnne Allard X (made her mark) Witnessed by: Gustus(?) Geer(?) And Samuel Geer George Salmon(?) (minister?) Anglican Church Drouin Collection: On this 21st of July, eighteen hundred and eleven, Joseph Bates of Dunham, farmer, under age, and Harriet Dodge of Dunham, spinster, of full age, were married after publication of banns, with consent of parents, in presence of Joseph Parsons, brother in law of Joseph, and Ann Bates, sister of Joseph, By me Charles C. Cotton(?) Minister (Dunham Church of England) Contracting parties s/ Joseph Bates, Harriet Dodge X her mark Witnesses: Joseph Parsons X his mark, Ann Bates X her mark Hope this helps. Katherine -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Sande Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:37 PM To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Subject: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier