Carollee, No mine are from Fairfax/St. Albans, they had at least 7 children Edgar being my gggf. Thanks, Mary Just an aside are you sure you are not looking for a Joseh Menared and Rosalie Granger from Standbridge East? I know several people from that line, what is the next generation? Carollee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com