Carolyn, Hi. Do you happen to know the maiden name of the Hattie, age 38, who is married to John Rich, age 40, found on the same page of the 1900 St. Albans census as your Mitchell and Mary Rich? The reason I ask is that I have a Harriet Constantine b. May 1863 (d/o Suppliant Constantine and Harriet Patenaude) who was married to a Rich sometime after 1880. She was listed as Hattie in the 1880 St. Albans census and a Civil War Pension file has her as Harriet Rich in 1899. I was wondering if this could be the same Hattie. There is also a Della Rich who signed one of the papers as a witness to Harriet Constantine's mark. I actually follow Etiene a son of Suppliant Constantine and Harriet Patenaude, and would like to find out happened to his brothers and sisters (Marie Rachel, Rose Delima, Cyprien, Norbert, Malvina, Marie Cyeranne, Mary and Harriet) Any information will be appreciated. Thanks, Mary Alvarado

--part1_df.ac077d9.27137974_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_df.ac077d9.27137974_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Vlaicu57@aol.com> From: Vlaicu57@aol.com Full-name: Vlaicu57 Message-ID: <8.b401763.2713768f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:29:19 EDT Subject: Fwd: [VTFRANKL] Thomas and Mary Moss Carroll, Mitchell and Mary Carroll Rich,... To: VTFRANK-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_df.ac077d9.2713768f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 119 --part2_df.ac077d9.2713768f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_df.ac077d9.2713768f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Vlaicu57@aol.com> From: Vlaicu57@aol.com Full-name: Vlaicu57 Message-ID: <30.b289eff.27136c0e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:44:30 EDT Subject: Re: [VTFRANKL] Thomas and Mary Moss Carroll, Mitchell and Mary Carroll Rich, ... To: lesperanj001@hawaii.rr.com CC: VRFRANK-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 119 Hello Jerry Thanks again for even more helpful info. Especially glad to hear you were born MA, that's where I am (also born) but St. Albans for me might as well be Hawaii. If all else fails, will save for a trip next summer. The church info is very intriguing, but don't want to end up bothering them repeatedly, would like to send one letter of request, so am trying to narrow down probable dates of death, etc. Most helpful would be if I could rent microfilm reels of St. Albans Messenger, but no library who has it will lend it. I asked how much it costs to buy each microfilm reel, stunned to hear it's $25!!! Also am not sure if it's a good paper for obits and local news. Can anyone on this mailing list vouch for the St. Albans Messenger? Thanks again Jerry Jim Carroll --part2_df.ac077d9.2713768f_boundary-- --part1_df.ac077d9.27137974_boundary--

Hi. I have been researching my Rich family here in St. Albans for a couple years now. I have Mitchell Rich born 1/1847 married to Mary born 8/1849. Children: Charles-born 1871, George-born 1872, Nellie b-8/1878, Fred-b-1881, Lillie-b-7/188? (illegible), Homer-b-7/1889, Willie-b-12/14/1869. Mitchell was born in Vermont, Mary born in N.Y. Mary's parents were born in Ireland. Mitchell was a mason. I got most of my information from the City Hall in St. Albans. Also some from census records at the library. So far I have not connected Mitchell and Mary to any of my family. My g-father was Edmund Rich, father Oliver. Hope this helps. Carolyn Demers > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Vlaicu57@aol.com> > To: <VTFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 4:49 AM > Subject: [VTFRANKL] Thomas and Mary Moss Carroll, Mitchell and Mary Carroll > Rich, St. Albans > > > > Am researching the family of Thomas Carroll and Mary Moss Carroll, who > were > > married in Canada 1837, must have lived in NY in the 1840s and 1850s, then > > settled in St Albans circa 1860. 1860 census lists children all born NY, > > Patrick 15, Michael 14, Margaret 12, Mary 10, Thomas 6, Andrew 4, William > 3 > > ms. Patrick and Michael served in the Civil War from St. Albans, Patrick > died > > in the war, his parents applied for his pension. Thomas Carroll spent time > in > > the Brattleboro Asylum, apparently could do little to support his family. > > Mary Moss Carroll died in St Albans Sept 26, 1891. Thomas died between Oct > 4 > > 1898 and March 22 1899. Can't find them in any other VT census after 1860. > > Daughter Mary married Mitchell Rich 1868 St Albans, they are listed with > > children in 1870, 1880, 1900 and 1910 census of St Albans. Mary Carroll > Rich > > is listed as a widow in 1920 census, in the family of Bert and Cordelia > Plant. > > Would like to find death date and obit for Thomas Carroll, Mitchell Rich > and > > Mary Carroll Rich. Would love to know if there are still descendants of > Mary > > Carroll Rich in St Albans. > > Does anyone know if St Albans kept pauper records? Does St Albans have > city > > directories? Have tried to rent St Albans Messenger microfilm reels > through > > interlibrary loan, but no library will lend them. Any info on St Albans > would > > be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Carroll > > > > > > ==== VTFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > Please Use Your Subject Line Effectively, Do Not Recycle Them > > > > ============================== > > RootsWeb's guide to tracing family trees: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/ > > > > > > ==== VTFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Please Use Your Subject Line Effectively, Do Not Recycle Them > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ >

Aloha Carolyn, If Mary's parents were born in Ireland there is an excellent possibility that the family is Catholic. I suggest that, if you haven't done it already, you contact the "Irish" Catholic Church in St. Albans, which was established in 1847. Their address is Immaculate Conception Church, 45 Fairchild St., St. Albans, VT 05478. The week before last I spent a delightful week in St. Albans researching my French-Canadian genes and found all of the Catholic Church secretaries and city/town clerks that I met in Franklin County to be friendly and helpful. Get back to me for some other approaches if the contact with Immaculate Conception Church produces nothing. Jerry Lesperance, Aiea, Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: kcdemers <cdemers@together.net> To: <VTFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [VTFRANKL] Thomas and Mary Moss Carroll, Mitchell and Mary Carroll Rich, St. Albans > > Hi. I have been researching my Rich family here in St. Albans for a > couple years now. I have Mitchell Rich born 1/1847 married to Mary born > 8/1849. Children: Charles-born 1871, George-born 1872, Nellie b-8/1878, > Fred-b-1881, Lillie-b-7/188? (illegible), Homer-b-7/1889, > Willie-b-12/14/1869. > Mitchell was born in Vermont, Mary born in N.Y. Mary's parents were born in > Ireland. Mitchell was a mason. > I got most of my information from the City Hall in St. Albans. Also some > from census records at the library. So far I have not connected Mitchell > and Mary to any of my family. My g-father was Edmund Rich, father Oliver. > Hope this helps. Carolyn Demers

Aloha Jim, I just spent 5 days in St. Albans researching my Franco-American ancestors in the 19th C. The Irish Catholic Church there was established in 1847. You might write them at: Immaculate Conception 45 fairfield Street St. Albans, VT 05478 I found that the City Clerk's office had a lot of good knowledge as did the City Library. I believe, because the city is so small, that you could probably reach the City Clerk by addressing a letter to City Clerk, City Hall, Main Street, St. Albans, VT 05478. I don't have the street of the library but you could probably get away with addressing a letter to the St. Albans Free Library, St.Albans, VT 05478. Get back to me if you strike out on these approaches because I may be able to come up with some other ideas. Jerry Lesperance, Aiea, Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: <Vlaicu57@aol.com> To: <VTFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 4:49 AM Subject: [VTFRANKL] Thomas and Mary Moss Carroll, Mitchell and Mary Carroll Rich, St. Albans > Am researching the family of Thomas Carroll and Mary Moss Carroll, who were > married in Canada 1837, must have lived in NY in the 1840s and 1850s, then > settled in St Albans circa 1860. 1860 census lists children all born NY, > Patrick 15, Michael 14, Margaret 12, Mary 10, Thomas 6, Andrew 4, William 3 > ms. Patrick and Michael served in the Civil War from St. Albans, Patrick died > in the war, his parents applied for his pension. Thomas Carroll spent time in > the Brattleboro Asylum, apparently could do little to support his family. > Mary Moss Carroll died in St Albans Sept 26, 1891. Thomas died between Oct 4 > 1898 and March 22 1899. Can't find them in any other VT census after 1860. > Daughter Mary married Mitchell Rich 1868 St Albans, they are listed with > children in 1870, 1880, 1900 and 1910 census of St Albans. Mary Carroll Rich > is listed as a widow in 1920 census, in the family of Bert and Cordelia Plant. > Would like to find death date and obit for Thomas Carroll, Mitchell Rich and > Mary Carroll Rich. Would love to know if there are still descendants of Mary > Carroll Rich in St Albans. > Does anyone know if St Albans kept pauper records? Does St Albans have city > directories? Have tried to rent St Albans Messenger microfilm reels through > interlibrary loan, but no library will lend them. Any info on St Albans would > be greatly appreciated. > Jim Carroll > > > ==== VTFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Please Use Your Subject Line Effectively, Do Not Recycle Them > > ============================== > RootsWeb's guide to tracing family trees: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/ >

Hello I am new to this list and have a lot of family that is either buried in Enosburg area or lived there at one time. I am looking for information on Benjamin M. Smith/Loretta E. Davis Benjamin Smith/Hannah ? Abigail Blake/Benjamin Smith Jr. Abigail Munsell/Joseph Blake Thanks for any help. *Laura Hauser-Melton* Genealogy-where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. **author unknown**

Aloha Michael, I came back yesterday from a week in Franklin County where my main goal was to assemble information on where to locate sacramental records...baptisms, weddings and burials...for those of French-Canadian ancestry who settled in communities in northwest VT before Catholic Churches were established in or near those communities. It makes a little difference whether you are searching for sacramental records of Irish or Franco-Catholics because the Franco's were sometimes served by missionaries from French-speaking Quebec parishes and some went back to Quebec for the sacraments especially baptisms. There was an Irish priest stationed in Burlington in the first half of the 19th C who did considerable missionary work in VT. The first Catholic Church in VT was St. Mary's (now the cathedral, the Immaculate Conception) established in 1830 at Burlington. You might write them: Immaculate Conception, 20 Pine St, Burlington, VT 05401. Failing that, try the diocesan archivist: David Blow, Chancery Office, 52 Williams St, Burlington, VT 05401. St. Mary's Church (an Irish church which like the Burlington church is now called Immaculate Conception was established in St. Albans in 1847. Address: 45 Fairchild St., St. Albans, VT 05478. Separately four individuals with considerable early Northern VT French-Canadian genealogical experience told me that at least 1/3 and maybe as high as 1/2 of the Franco-Catholics had their marriages performed by a Protestant clergyman or Justice of the Peace if they couldn't get to a Catholic priest. I'm not sure if those numbers apply to the Irish Also you can e-mail me with a specific request because I have an alphabetical surname listing of about 2,000 sacraments performed in Quebec parishes near the border that involved U.S. residents. Not all were Franco-Americans. (Isn't it interesting that a Franco-Hawaiian can do this sort of thing but ALL of my ancestors migrated from Quebec to the U.S on either side of Lake Champlain in the 19th C). Jerry Lesperance, Aiea, Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: jayne donnelly <jcd2@tds.net> To: <VTFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: [VTFRANKL] Catholic records before St. Luke's > Hello: > > Could anyone tell me if there was one (or more) institutions that might > have been frequented by Catholics before St. Luke's was founded? > > More specifically: pre-1850 marriages, deaths and births. > > Thank you. > > Michael E. Donnelly

In a message dated 10/3/00 12:58:09, VTFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I'm working one that is awfully close - "Pollet". She married into the Sisco family. I only have one record to her maiden name and its very poor quality so as to be almost illegible so they may be misread. My reference is to Ruby/Roby Pollet b. about 1805 m. Uriah Sisco on 20-Mar-1823 in Swanton. >> Thanks for sharing about the name POLLETT. I looked for the name Ruby P(F?)ollett in my family records but found none. (I had asked about the name FOLLETT which must have been somewhat common in Franklin Co. in the first half of the 19th century. Guess they all moved westward.) It's interesting that the name HOLLETT, along with FOLLETT, is often found in Newfoundland. I wonder if all of three of these had their roots in Devon, Dorset, and the Channel Islands of England. Does anyone know? Barbee in Canada

Hello: Could anyone tell me if there was one (or more) institutions that might have been frequented by Catholics before St. Luke's was founded? More specifically: pre-1850 marriages, deaths and births. Thank you. Michael E. Donnelly

I'm working one that is awfully close - "Pollet". She married into the Sisco family. I only have one record to her maiden name and its very poor quality so as to be almost illegible so they may be misread. My reference is to Ruby/Roby Pollet b. about 1805 m. Uriah Sisco on 20-Mar-1823 in Swanton. > -----Original Message----- > From: FollettGen@aol.com [mailto:FollettGen@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 12:03 AM > To: VTFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VTFRANKL] Re: FOLLETT, East Berkshire > > > Is anyone working on the FOLLETT name.? I never see it come > up on the list. > Barbee in Canada > FREE newsletter on the current events and topics important to today's > family historian. > >

Is anyone working on the FOLLETT name.? I never see it come up on the list. Barbee in Canada

I am looking for Jonathan Stiles b. May 30, 1773 in Hollis, NH. In the 1800 VT census in South Hero, 1820 in Swanton, 1830 in Underhill, 1840 in St. Albans and 1850 in Georgia with his wife Lucy (Bunnell) (and a Lucy McLure age 44). There are no records of him dying in Georgia. Where and when did he die? Why did he move so often? Also I have no information on Lucy. Thank you for your help. Afa

I don't know if anyone on this list is familiar or is planning a trip to Malone's Webster St. Cem., the oldest? cemetery in town, however this is what I found earlier this week: In 1996, the local D.A.R. chapter erected a 10-ft. high chainlink fence around the whole cemetery and padlocked it shut! (I was told later they had to do this because of vandalism). I went to the Village of Malone offices, and they in turn directed me to the Town of Malone offices, out near the airport. I spoke with a supervisor there who said he had done some work in the cemetery, including drawn up a specific plot map which I was shown. He and his staff were very helpful. Unfortunately the front fence of the cemetery was the closest I was able to get as the supervisor informed me that Malone's First Congregation Church had the key to the padlock; the church secretary told me there is some kind of legal wrangling going on trying to determine who is in charge of the graveyard. And of course as you'd think, she could NOT find the key usually kept in the church! So I could see the stone I was interested in, just could not get to it (after traveling 250 miles). A lesson learned? If never occurred to me that I might have to make an appointment to get into a cemetery! :-)

Am researching the family of Thomas Carroll and Mary Moss Carroll, who were married in Canada 1837, must have lived in NY in the 1840s and 1850s, then settled in St Albans circa 1860. 1860 census lists children all born NY, Patrick 15, Michael 14, Margaret 12, Mary 10, Thomas 6, Andrew 4, William 3 ms. Patrick and Michael served in the Civil War from St. Albans, Patrick died in the war, his parents applied for his pension. Thomas Carroll spent time in the Brattleboro Asylum, apparently could do little to support his family. Mary Moss Carroll died in St Albans Sept 26, 1891. Thomas died between Oct 4 1898 and March 22 1899. Can't find them in any other VT census after 1860. Daughter Mary married Mitchell Rich 1868 St Albans, they are listed with children in 1870, 1880, 1900 and 1910 census of St Albans. Mary Carroll Rich is listed as a widow in 1920 census, in the family of Bert and Cordelia Plant. Would like to find death date and obit for Thomas Carroll, Mitchell Rich and Mary Carroll Rich. Would love to know if there are still descendants of Mary Carroll Rich in St Albans. Does anyone know if St Albans kept pauper records? Does St Albans have city directories? Have tried to rent St Albans Messenger microfilm reels through interlibrary loan, but no library will lend them. Any info on St Albans would be greatly appreciated. Jim Carroll

Looking for information on Lucretia Flood, daughter of Marcus Flood. Lucretia was married by 1830 to Victory Peters. They are on the census for Fairfield, Franklin County. Could someone do a marriage look up for me? Thank you, Judy

Looking for any information at all on the surname BARUP from Franklin County, Vermont. Thank you. Tammy

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Seeking information on Arthur Charles BINGHAM, and Augusta Sylvia LARSON, married about 1904,perhaps in Canada.. Lived in the Milton, Essex Junction, Highgate area of Vermont... Had 3 children, 1905, stillborn, 1906, lied 1 1/2 months, and Roland Arthur BINGHAM, born 7-14-1907., died April 9 1965, in New York City. Augusta born between June and October 1885, Goteborg, Sweden, Immigrated, and presumably married Arthur... They parted 1912 in the St Albans area, of Vermont. Seeking Marriage, Divorce, Death or Immigration, Parental information. Any help will be appreciated, as I have been searching for a very long time. Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

Posted on: Franklin Co. Vt Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Vt/FranklinObits/37 Surname: Charette ------------------------- Looking for data on Julia Charette and Alvina Charette who lived in the Sherbrooke, Quebec area [1850-1870]

Posted on: Franklin Co. Vt Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Vt/FranklinObits/35 Surname: ------------------------- I have a large file of Charette and Charest surname from french Quebec. Maybe it's the same family Please get in touch with Denis Charest decharest@pandore.qc.ca