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Hi List! Thanks to all of you for answering with ideas....I did send to the County Clerk in St. Albans. This was 2-3 weeks ago, maybe I'm just too anxious I didn't send money but a SASE so they could let me know how much they charged or if they even had these records. The time period is 1844, Frederick Boyd.... Have no other family names, just his birthdate in Feb., written in family Bible. It would be a plus, just to find some Boyd's in that county in that time period. Thanks, Janis in Wy.___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Aloha Janis in Wyo, The State of VT vital records are divided into two major time categories: 1760-1870; and 1870-1908. So the there is the answer to your question. Go to http://www.vitalrec.com/vt.html which will tell you al= lot about vital records in VT. Jerry Lesperance, Aiea, Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: Janis Dawson <kennethdawson@msn.com> To: <VTFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 1:22 PM Subject: [VTFRANKL] Early birth records > How early were birth records made in Vermont? I need one for 1844, which I sent for. As yet have gotten no answer. Maybe records weren't kept this early. Can someone tell me about this? I figured that the County Clerk or Recorder would have these, am I right? > Thanx,> Janis in Wyo.___________________________________________________________

How early were birth records made in Vermont? I need one for 1844, which I sent for. As yet have gotten no answer. Maybe records weren't kept this early. Can someone tell me about this? I figured that the County Clerk or Recorder would have these, am I right? Thanx, Janis in Wyo.___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

I just thought to post this to the list as to a lot of people the probate records are a mystery. Also, as puzzling as it may seem: I have found persons in my own line that although they were JP's in their areas, and they were admins for other persons estates,therefore showing a healthy interest in the judicial system of the time period, they have no will recorded. What this tells me though, (as I obviously am a person with an imagination), is that since this person exhibited all the qualities of someone who would most likely have made a will or understood the significance of one.. possibly the absence of one is explained by: 1.It was lost in all those "loose papers" 2.Maybe he "meant" to make one and died suddenly 3.Record keeping then was not a efficient as now.Perhaps it was misplaced. 4. Maybe it was never recorded. As with marriage records, persons WERE married but if the official never recorded it or registered it from the remote areas, then the records state "no return" giving the impression there was no marriage. 5. Perhaps there were verbal agreements with the children. In essence, I am trying to say, that if there is an ancestor that shows signs that he should have/would have made a will, then chances are he did. It may not have been registered and therefore finding that will is the problem. I always look for land changing hands or newly acquired land of the children of someone, showing possibly a verbal agreement. Debbie Jennings debbiej@iquest.net "Following the footprints through time" Researching in IN,KY,TN,NC,PA,NJ,VT,NY,MA,MD, VA,CAN,GER,ENG

Recently I received a letter from a relative who also is doing family research. The letter reminded me of an error genealogists always make, although we don't realize it. You might (and probably do) have the following info on your 8th great grandfather: dob,birthplace,marriage,military records, political affiliations, church records,death records and burial, also any occupations, and sometimes any important papers copied and any newspaper articles. And you most likely have some info or maybe a photo of the family reunion of Elizabeth, who is related somehow, and several times removed.You probably have all pertinent info on her also. BUT, have you taken the time with researching all the old records, to stop for a moment a collect the obvious? Do you have all, or any of this info on the current members of your family? Do you have any of this info on your brother or your parents who are still living? Sometimes we are so wrapped up in history that even though we talk with our siblings or other close family members who may also be researching, that although we know they have 4 children and "about" when they were born and we "think" this or that one is on a second marriage and set of children, we don't stop and retrieve that info. I know this is the simple stuff to get, and therefore removes the challenge, but getting this info now will make the research for future generations (who hopefully will continue) so much easier. So take a few moments and see if you have as intense and detailed records for some of the living as you do for the ancestors. Debbie Jennings debbiej@iquest.net "Following the footprints through time" Researching in IN,KY,TN,NC,PA,NJ,VT,NY,MA,MD, VA,CAN,GER,ENG

When a person dies, every state has laws that provide for public supervision over the estate that is left, whether or not there is a will. The term "probate records" broadly covers all the records produced by these laws, although, strictly speaking, "probate" applies only when there is a will. Family history researchers often turn to probate records only after they have exhausted everything else they can find. But sometimes an earlier look at probate records would greatly shorten their search. Probate is a minor judicial procedure to prove that a will is valid. Traditionally, it required the witnesses to a will to appear before the probate officer and swear that they saw the deceased sign it, and that he or she was mentally competent and under no duress at the time. More recently, the witnesses have been allowed to sign affidavits (sworn written statements) to those facts at the time the will is signed, and probate requires only that the affidavits be filed with the will. The maker of a will is formally called a "testator," but "decedent" or "deceased" are also used to refer to the original owner of an estate, whether or not there was a will. The official responsible for probate is known by different titles in each state, and the records are found in the office of the responsible official. The titles include probate judge; surrogate, county, circuit or district judge; register of wills; and county or town clerk. In England during the American colonial period, probate was a function of the ecclesiastical courts of the bishops of the Church of England. In the colonies, there were no bishops, and some colonies had established churches other than the Church of England. Therefore, each colony developed its own civil procedure for proving wills, leading to the present variety of offices. If someone dies, leaving a will that names the person who is to administer it—pay the bills, collect debts owed, and distribute the proceeds—that person is called an "executor" (masculine) or "executrix" (feminine). The terms are from law Latin, which, unlike English, did not use the masculine form as an inclusive gender applicable to both men and women. A person who dies without a valid will is called "intestate," and the property of an intestate estate goes to surviving relatives according to formulas set by the law of each jurisdiction. When someone dies intestate, or for some reason a named executor or executrix cannot serve, the probate officer appoints a personal representative, traditionally called an "administrator" or "adminstratrix," to represent the estate. Today, some jurisdictions use the gender-neutral term "personal representative" as the title for the position as well as to describe it. "Personal" in the term emphasizes that the representation is for only personal property-movable items, cash, accounts receivable, and securities. Interests in real estate go directly to the heirs without passing through the hands of the personal representative, with two exceptions: when the will directs that the property be sold, or a court orders its sale to meet debts of the estate. When real estate passes to heirs as a group, they are the decedent's "real (property) representatives," and tax records may list the landowner as "estate of" or "representatives of" the decedent. Partition is the process of dividing land among people who owned it as a group-jointly or in common-and it too is subject to judicial approval, but sometimes by a court other than the probate office. A caution you should always keep in mind is that some probate records, like those copied into bound will-record books, are transcriptions from the originals. Published compilations or abstracts are available for many states, especially before 1800, but these are two times further removed from the original, once when they were copied or abstracted, and a second time when they were set in type. Each recopying introduces a chance of error. Debbie Jennings debbiej@iquest.net "Following the footprints through time" Researching in IN,KY,TN,NC,PA,NJ,VT,NY,MA,MD, VA,CAN,GER,ENG

While I still have my jimwilliams9@juno.com, I am adding a second address that will become my permanent one sometime in the near future. I am having some trouble with the juno address. My new email address will be walkingman1@netzero.net. Please send a confirmation.......Thanks........Jim

Posted on: Franklin Co. Vt Biographies Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Vt/FranklinBios/4 Surname: Eggleston, Goodrich ------------------------- Levi C. Eggleston, who owns and operates a good farm of 212 acres in Eden and Big Grove townships, was born in Potsdam, St. Lawrence County, NY, September 1, 1849; he is a son of Walter and Sarah Ann (Goodrich) Eggleston. Walter Eggleston traded for 52 acres in section 18, Eden Township, now owned by his son L. C. For some time he was practically retired from active life on account of poor health, and the farm was carried on by his 2 sons, L. C. and O. F. Walter Eggleston was born in VT, on the shores of Lake Champlain (Franklin, Addison, or Chittenden Co.??), October 13, 1802, and died December 9, 1890, at his farm in Benton County, Iowa. He was reared in the state of NY and followed farming until compelled by ill health to retire, many years prior to his decease. He married, June 8, 1830, in New York, Sarah A. Goodrich, born September 30, 1811, at Charlotte, VT, and died June 19, 1901; she was a member of the Presbyterian church. In 1858 Mr. Eggleston and his wife removed to Cook County, IL, where they remained until 1864, the date of their location in Benton County. They had 8 children, of whom but 2 survive, L. C. and O. F. (Levi and Orseene). O. F. Eggleston served 2 years in Company I, of the Ninth Iowa Infantry, in the Civil war, being discharged on account of disability. He has followed the trade of carpenter most of his life, and now makes his home with his brother. L. C. Eggleston came to Benton County with his parents in 1864, and he has made practically all the present fine improvements on the home farm, and has added 160 acres to the original farm. He takes a keen interest in the conduct of the place, and has been very successful. For many years he has taken an active part in political affairs, and has served 3 years as bridge commissioner of the county, as well as in several township and school offices. Since attaining his majority he has always held some public office. Mr. Eggleston is a member of the Knights of Pythias of Vinton, and of the Pythian Sisters. Mr. Eggleston married (first) November 23, 1873, Hattie L. Sanders, who died August 15, 1899, aged 46 years. She was born in IN and accompanied her family in childhood to Benton County. They had 8 children. Edward G., born August 31, 1874, has until recently served as deputy treasurer of Benton County; Leonard LeRoy, born November 30, 1875, is now in CA; Fannie May, born May 17, 1877, is the wife of Marshall Beller, of Eden Township, and has 4 children; Bertha Ann, born December 23, 1878, is the wife of Morris McNie, of Polk Township, and has 1 daughter; Ruth D., born April 20, 1881, is the wife of Paul Ward, of Big Grove Township, and has 2 children; Della L., born August 14, 1882, is the wife of Glen Van Nice, of Jackson Township, and has 3 children; Dora Ett, born December 11, 1883, became the wife of Wilbur Robinson and is deceased; and Lewis Earl, born December 4, 1888, lives at home. Mr. Eggleston married (second), June 4, 1902, Irene, daughter of George Leverich, deceased. She is a member of the Presbyterian church. History of Benton County, Iowa, 1910, pages 691-692. (my relatives)

Posted on: Franklin Co. Vt Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Vt/FranklinObits/38 Surname: Lucia, Lucha, Luchia, Baldwin ------------------------- Looking for information on Louis Lucia, b.1883, indicates on his marriage register he was born in Vermont, son of Anthony (Antoine?) and Mary. He moved to Kent County, Ontario and married Catherine E. Baldwin, d/o Samuel and Dellilah, in 1858. Please email me at sl@hawk.igs.net. Thank-you!

Seeking information on Arthur Charles BINGHAM, and Augusta Sylvia LARSON, married about 1904,perhaps in Canada.. Lived in the Milton, Essex Junction, Highgate area of Vermont... Had 3 children, 1905, stillborn, 1906, lied 1 1/2 months, and Roland Arthur BINGHAM, born 7-14-1907., died April 9 1965, in New York City. Augusta born between June and October 1885, Goteborg, Sweden, Immigrated, and presumably married Arthur... They parted 1912 in the St Albans area, of Vermont. Seeking Marriage, Divorce, Death or Immigration, Parental information. Any help will be appreciated, as I have been searching for a very long time. Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

Hi, Have a Rosalie Bachand married about 1857 living in Bershire, parents Augustin Bachand and Rosalie Bonneau - need to find who she married and where. Could be the name changed to Bashaw - anyone with a connection? Thanks, Andree

Hi, Found this site, you can do a name search on all Vermont veterans of the civil war and much more. Worth a look. http://vermontcivilwar.org/index/index.shtml Regards, Andree

At one time or another we have all ordered items from the National Archives and I know there have been various discussions regarding the pricing procedure or new pricing, so I thought I would send this to the list as it looks as though it is very complete and covers anything you might wish copies on. These rules are also posted at their Website.You might want to print these out and have them handy for ordering. The National Archives and Records Administration published its final rule, NARA Reproduction Fee Schedule, in the 13 October 2000 Federal Register, page 60862. The revised fees go into effect on November 13. 1. Self-service reproductions in all NARA research facilities: Paper-to-paper copies (up to and including 11" x 17") made by the customer on a NARA self-service copier—$0.15 cents per copy Microfilm- or microfiche-to-paper copies made by the customer on a NARA self-service copier—$0.30 per copy 2. Reproductions made by NARA: Paper-to-paper copies (up to and including 11" x 17") made by NARA staff—$0.50 per copy Oversized electrostatic copies—$2.70 per linear foot Electrostatic copies (22" x 34")—$2.70 per copy Microfilm- or microfiche-to-paper copies made by NARA staff—$1.90 per copy Original negative microfilm (paper-to-microfilm)—$0.70 per image 3. Fixed-fee order forms (NATF Forms 81-86—New order forms will be available beginning 1 November 2000): Passenger arrival lists (NATF Form 81)—$17.25 Federal Census requests (NATF Form 82)—$17.50 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims (NATF Form 83)—$17.50 Land entry records (NATF 84)—$17.75 Bounty land warrant application files (NATF Form 85)—$17.25 Pension files more than 75 years old (NATF Form 85); complete file—$37 Pension documents packet (order form NATF Form 85)—$14.75 Military service files more than 75 years old (NATF Form 86)—$17 4. Additional self-service reproductions available at Archives II, College Park, MD, specifically self-service video copying in the Motion Picture, Sound and Video Research Room, College Park facility: Initial 90-min use of video copying station with 120-minute videocassette—$9.75 Additional 90-minute use of video copying station with no videocassette—$6.25 Blank 120-minute VHS videocassette—$3.50 Self-service Polaroid—$5.75 per print 5. Other fees: Certification—$6 Mail order minimum fee—$10 6. Other reproductions: A. Still photography, including aerial film and oversized maps and drawings. Contact the unit that has the original records: Special Media Archives Services Division (NWCS), 8601 Adelphi Rd., College Park, MD 20740-6001 or inquire@nara.gov Presidential libraries (see the Web site for mail and e-mail addresses) Regional archives (see the Web site for addresses) B. Motion picture, sound recording, and video holdings. Contact the unit that has the materials: Special Media Archives Services Division (NWCS), 8601 Adelphi Rd., Room 3340, College Park, MD 20740-6001 or inquire@nara.gov Presidential libraries (see the Web site for mail and e-mail addresses) C. Electronic records: Contact Electronic and Special Media Records Services Division (NWME), 8601 Adelphi Rd., Room 5320, College Park, MD 20740-6001 or inquire@nara.gov D. Microfilm publications and other Trust Fund publications: Contact Customer Service Center (NWCC2), 8601 Adelphi Rd., Room 1000, College Park, MD 20740-6001 or inquire@nara.gov Information on the fee schedule is published on NARA's Web site. A copy of the final rule is also available through that URL. Debbie Jennings debbiej@iquest.net "Following the footprints through time"

Here is a great project to instill in your children and to involve other family members in the family heritage. Sounds like a lot of fun and the younger members will learn something also. If your projects takes multiple sittings, then later on down the line see if some of the younger ones can tell you who people are by reviewing some of them. Eventually they will be able to! Family photographs are excellent reminders of people, times, and events. Most of us, however, probably have loads of loose photographs in boxes or drawers that need to be labeled and organized. A great project that involves getting your family together, sitting down with your photographs, and working together to organize them. Find a place where you can spread out your materials—make sure it accommodates the group. Examine photographs, and label them as appropriate. Passing around the photographs and sharing stories about the people, places, and events helps involve everyone in the project. Discuss and agree upon an organizational scheme that allows you to sort the photographs and then place them in some order. This project may take several sittings, depending on the number of photographs you have. However, it can be an enjoyable experience for every member of the family, and it can also promote good preservation skills for everyone. Debbie Jennings debbiej@iquest.net "Following the footprints through time"

I have been trying to tie together my GGrandfather Truman E. Mead born November 1828 to Caleb Mead from the same area. Does anyone know of a family connection? I thank you advance.

Researching Fred William Hislop, Alburgh, VT., born 21 Aug 1864. He married Etta May Mead, Highgate, VT., born 12 Aug 1867. Two children: Georgia Beatrice 1888 Floyd 1890 Any information, greatly appreciated. Thank you

Researching Truman MEAD, born November 1828 in ?? Swanton, VT. Married Catherine BEEBE, 1839-1908. Anyone researching this family please contact me. They are my GGrandparents. They had 10 children Etta May 1867 Edgar 1852 George 1855 Cora A 1859 Laramie 1865 Caddie 1871 Albert 1872 Samuel 1875 Truman 1878 Thank you.

This inquiry is an attempt to find out whether anyone knows of descendents of children of Lester Lahue. Lester had five children that lived to become adults: Heman, Myrtle, Evelyn, Isabelle (Belle) and Walter. Walter is my grandfather so I am aware of the members of that family. Belle never married. Myrtle married but never had any children. That leaves Heman and Evelyn. Heman was born on July 11, 1876 (in Richford) and married Ruth Laplant (daughter of Benjamin Laplant) on Jan 2, 1899. They lived in Richford. Heman was killed in a grain elevator accident on Oct 7, 1908. They had two children: Sidney Orin (born Sep 17, 1900) and Laura (born Oct 25, 1904). -- Sidney was married twice: to Margaret May Martin (on Jun 4 1923) and to Janice Elizabeth Lewis (Jul 2, 1938). I don't know if he had any children or not so this is one family line I'm looking for info on. -- Laura was married to Norman West (on Mar 10, 1926). My Laplant cousins say that they had at least two children but we don't know what their names were. This is the second family line that I am looking for info on. Evelyn was born in Oct 1882 (in Richford) and married George Rogers on Oct 5, 1904. They had 4 children: 3 girls and a boy. The girls never married. According to my father, the boy (Glenn, born on 29 Jul 1905)) married but we don't know who Glenn married or whether Glenn had any children (according to the SS death index, he died in June 1993). This is the third family line that I am looking for info on. Thanks for any info. Jim Lahue

Looking for any information on: John M. Root b. Mar. 5, 1829 in Canada d. Mar. 14, 1914 in Fairfax Did he marry? If so, who? Did he have any children? What are their names? In other words, I am looking for any and all information that is available on him. Betty