*Apologies for the bad Subject Heading in my last post. Sometimes Gmail seems like it is repeating a subject heading and then it lets you down. LOL On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there! > Trying to build up the Vermont Tombstone project. If you have > headstone photos - please consider putting a copy in the Vermont > USGenWeb Archives. > http://www.usgwtombstones.org/vermont/vermont.html > You can upload using our submission form. > http://genrecords.net/vtfiles/photos.html >

Hi there! Trying to build up the Vermont Tombstone project. If you have headstone photos - please consider putting a copy in the Vermont USGenWeb Archives. http://www.usgwtombstones.org/vermont/vermont.html You can upload using our submission form. http://genrecords.net/vtfiles/photos.html We are here to help one another. I have never visited Oneida, NY but found an important headstone in the USGenWeb Tombstone Project for New York. It told me where this my ancestor died. This is what we are trying to accomplish for Vermont. All the best, Chris

B = Baptism M = Mariage S = Sepulture (Burial) I think 2000 was when the first version of the DB was available. It's very large and contains a great deal of information occuring in the early 1600's through the current date which took place in Quebec (New France). It was created by individual genealogy clubs and organizations in Quebec who contributed information for their areas. For this reason it is a bit spotty in it's coverage. Corrections and new data are being added with frequent updates so it is growing and becoming more complete all the time. Can be very valuable if you are researching ancestors in Quebec. It is available online for a fee, just use Google to find it. Dave Constantine in Boston NetBoie@ComCast.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande To: vtfrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Thank you. I appreciate your effort. What is BMS2000 DB short for? Sande ________________________________ From: NetBoie <NetBoie@comcast.net> To: vtfrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:31:47 PM Subject: Re: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Hi Sande, I looked up the Bates in the BMS2000 DB and found the following three marriages listed in Dunham: Oliver F BATES (no parents listed) Lydia DURKEE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; December 29, 1828 Source: BMS2000 Joseph BATES (no parents listed) Harriet DODGE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; July 21, 1811 Source: BMS2000 Aaron BATES (no parents listed) Esther HARVEY (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; January 29, 1826 Source: BMS2000 Dave Constantine in Boston NetBoie@ComCast.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Hi there. I am new to the list and am researching my Bates relatives. I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. I believe they also had a sister Ann and possibly a brother Stephen. Naomi married Joseph Persons/Parsons who was a witness at the marriage of Joseph and Hannah Bates, as was a sister of Joseph named Ann. Since Joseph was a minor at the time of the marriage in 1811 it means he was born after 1790. This is not consistent with records found which I believe to be of another Joseph born to Jonathan and Mehitable Bates in 1787 (anyone can see these are two different people by the dates). That info has been going around for years and I want to find out the truth of the matter. DNA tests do not match Joseph (who married Harriet) to the family of Jonathan and Mehitable. If you have any info regarding Oliver Bates or know where else to look or any access to the Drouin Collection or anything else in Quebec and can look up info, can you please do a quick search? Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sande, I find the following: 1861 Canada East census, Brome Joseph PERSONS, farmer, 76, b. New Hampshire Naomi Persons, 71, b. New Hampshire Nabby, 35? 55? (bad handwriting) b. C. E. Joseph, 16, b. C. E. Sophia, 8?, b. C. E. Drouin collection - Naomi PARSONS, enterrement 1866, Farnham East Baptist Church Naomi PARSONS, wife of Joseph PARSONS, a daughter of Oliver Bates of the Township of Brome, County of Brome, and Province of Canada. Died Nov. 3, buried Nov. 6, 1866 Minister: Aaron Vitas(?), FWB Minister Drouin Collection - Oliver F. BATES, widower of Township of Shefford & MaryAnn Allard of same, spinster, married 18 Jan. 1838 Signed: O. F. Bates MaryAnne Allard X (made her mark) Witnessed by: Gustus(?) Geer(?) And Samuel Geer George Salmon(?) (minister?) Anglican Church Drouin Collection: On this 21st of July, eighteen hundred and eleven, Joseph Bates of Dunham, farmer, under age, and Harriet Dodge of Dunham, spinster, of full age, were married after publication of banns, with consent of parents, in presence of Joseph Parsons, brother in law of Joseph, and Ann Bates, sister of Joseph, By me Charles C. Cotton(?) Minister (Dunham Church of England) Contracting parties s/ Joseph Bates, Harriet Dodge X her mark Witnesses: Joseph Parsons X his mark, Ann Bates X her mark Hope this helps. Katherine -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Sande Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:37 PM To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Subject: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier

Thanks Katherine. I had some of this but not all of it. Sande ________________________________ From: Katherine Ayers <kayers2@comcast.net> To: vtfrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 7:56:12 PM Subject: Re: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Sande, I find the following: 1861 Canada East census, Brome Joseph PERSONS, farmer, 76, b. New Hampshire Naomi Persons, 71, b. New Hampshire Nabby, 35? 55? (bad handwriting) b. C. E. Joseph, 16, b. C. E. Sophia, 8?, b. C. E. Drouin collection - Naomi PARSONS, enterrement 1866, Farnham East Baptist Church Naomi PARSONS, wife of Joseph PARSONS, a daughter of Oliver Bates of the Township of Brome, County of Brome, and Province of Canada. Died Nov. 3, buried Nov. 6, 1866 Minister: Aaron Vitas(?), FWB Minister Drouin Collection - Oliver F. BATES, widower of Township of Shefford & MaryAnn Allard of same, spinster, married 18 Jan. 1838 Signed: O. F. Bates MaryAnne Allard X (made her mark) Witnessed by: Gustus(?) Geer(?) And Samuel Geer George Salmon(?) (minister?) Anglican Church Drouin Collection: On this 21st of July, eighteen hundred and eleven, Joseph Bates of Dunham, farmer, under age, and Harriet Dodge of Dunham, spinster, of full age, were married after publication of banns, with consent of parents, in presence of Joseph Parsons, brother in law of Joseph, and Ann Bates, sister of Joseph, By me Charles C. Cotton(?) Minister (Dunham Church of England) Contracting parties s/ Joseph Bates, Harriet Dodge X her mark Witnesses: Joseph Parsons X his mark, Ann Bates X her mark Hope this helps. Katherine

I continue to look for a cemetery record for 4th GG father- His oldest son lived in Enosberg, Franklin, VT in 1850 so maybe his father is buried near Enosberg? John BARTRAM/BARTRAIM- 1830 Fairfield Twp, Franklin, VT census age approx 56 years (wife & 5 children) Prob died after Nov 1833 when he signed a deed. His 2/w Hannah CRAW 1/h BUCK wife died 1849 IL. His children from his first marriage (Sturdevant) continued to live in Fairfield, Franklin, VT while his sons from his 2nd marrige moved to IL. I would like to find John BARTRAM'S death date and cemetery location. thanks very much, Patti

Hi Sande, I looked up the Bates in the BMS2000 DB and found the following three marriages listed in Dunham: Oliver F BATES (no parents listed) Lydia DURKEE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; December 29, 1828 Source: BMS2000 Joseph BATES (no parents listed) Harriet DODGE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; July 21, 1811 Source: BMS2000 Aaron BATES (no parents listed) Esther HARVEY (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; January 29, 1826 Source: BMS2000 Dave Constantine in Boston NetBoie@ComCast.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Hi there. I am new to the list and am researching my Bates relatives. I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. I believe they also had a sister Ann and possibly a brother Stephen. Naomi married Joseph Persons/Parsons who was a witness at the marriage of Joseph and Hannah Bates, as was a sister of Joseph named Ann. Since Joseph was a minor at the time of the marriage in 1811 it means he was born after 1790. This is not consistent with records found which I believe to be of another Joseph born to Jonathan and Mehitable Bates in 1787 (anyone can see these are two different people by the dates). That info has been going around for years and I want to find out the truth of the matter. DNA tests do not match Joseph (who married Harriet) to the family of Jonathan and Mehitable. If you have any info regarding Oliver Bates or know where else to look or any access to the Drouin Collection or anything else in Quebec and can look up info, can you please do a quick search? Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you. I appreciate your effort. What is BMS2000 DB short for? Sande ________________________________ From: NetBoie <NetBoie@comcast.net> To: vtfrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:31:47 PM Subject: Re: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Hi Sande, I looked up the Bates in the BMS2000 DB and found the following three marriages listed in Dunham: Oliver F BATES (no parents listed) Lydia DURKEE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; December 29, 1828 Source: BMS2000 Joseph BATES (no parents listed) Harriet DODGE (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; July 21, 1811 Source: BMS2000 Aaron BATES (no parents listed) Esther HARVEY (no parents listed) Dunham, Shefford, QC; January 29, 1826 Source: BMS2000 Dave Constantine in Boston NetBoie@ComCast.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: [VTFRA] Oliver Bates and Joseph Bates Hi there. I am new to the list and am researching my Bates relatives. I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. I believe they also had a sister Ann and possibly a brother Stephen. Naomi married Joseph Persons/Parsons who was a witness at the marriage of Joseph and Hannah Bates, as was a sister of Joseph named Ann. Since Joseph was a minor at the time of the marriage in 1811 it means he was born after 1790. This is not consistent with records found which I believe to be of another Joseph born to Jonathan and Mehitable Bates in 1787 (anyone can see these are two different people by the dates). That info has been going around for years and I want to find out the truth of the matter. DNA tests do not match Joseph (who married Harriet) to the family of Jonathan and Mehitable. If you have any info regarding Oliver Bates or know where else to look or any access to the Drouin Collection or anything else in Quebec and can look up info, can you please do a quick search? Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------ List administrator VTFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VTFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there. I am new to the list and am researching my Bates relatives. I am trying to find out more info on an Oliver Bates who was living in Brome, Quebec in 1863. His daughter, Naomi Bates, died at that time and it lists as her father Oliver Bates of Brome Quebec. Her brother Joseph Bates married Harriet Dodge in Dunham Quebec in 1811. I am a descendant of Joseph and Harriet. I am trying to prove parentage of Joseph and Naomi. I believe they also had a sister Ann and possibly a brother Stephen. Naomi married Joseph Persons/Parsons who was a witness at the marriage of Joseph and Hannah Bates, as was a sister of Joseph named Ann. Since Joseph was a minor at the time of the marriage in 1811 it means he was born after 1790. This is not consistent with records found which I believe to be of another Joseph born to Jonathan and Mehitable Bates in 1787 (anyone can see these are two different people by the dates). That info has been going around for years and I want to find out the truth of the matter. DNA tests do not match Joseph (who married Harriet) to the family of Jonathan and Mehitable. If you have any info regarding Oliver Bates or know where else to look or any access to the Drouin Collection or anything else in Quebec and can look up info, can you please do a quick search? Thanks in advance! Sande Bihlmaier

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nancyn3111 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4126.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On www.rootsweb.ancestry.com, it shows the parents of Julia Taylor to be Samuel H. Taylor (1778-1860 Vermont) and Hannah Morey (b. 1780 Worcester MA, died 1865 Wisconsin). No parents are shown for Harry Stone. I also looked in the genealogy book of the descendants of Gregory Stone and could not find Harry Stone. If he collected a pension for his Civil War service, you might be able to find some information about him in the pension application or the pension papers his wife most likely filled out to collect the pension after he died. I have also called the Town Clerk's office in Berkshire VT regarding another Berkshire family, and she was very helpful and did have some info I was looking for from the 1800's. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Smith4600 Surnames: STONE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4126/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am hoping someone can assist me. I am searching for additional information on my fourth great grandparents who both were born in Franklin County. Specifically their parents names and any siblings that may have had. I would appreciate anything you would be able to find in your resources. Harry Stone, Born in 1810 in Franklin Married to Julia Taylor, born 1809 also in Franklin county. They were married Oct 18, 1828 in Berkshire. Thanks so much for anything you can help with. Andrew Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RKMONTG342 Surnames: FOSTER-GATES-ANDRUS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/805.1478.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: FOSTER - addressing this part of your posting: I also had a Nathaniel Foster, born about 1800, married Harriet Hamilton (1st) and Diantha Andrus (2nd). This Nathaniel is obviously not a son of Nathaniel and Sally (Leach) Foster. I believe, Nathaniel Foster, who married Harriet Hamilton and then Diantha Andrus is son of: Daniel Foster and Submit Gates Foster. Karen Foster Montgomery Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: romano324 Surnames: Blondin, Blodah, Richard, Beauregard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4125/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking to confirm parents for Louise Blondin/Blodah b.1846 d. 1922 in Enosburg Falls Vermont. About1863 she married Edward Cleophas Richard b.1838 (Canada) d.1930 (Enosburg Falls, VT) Her siblings were Martha, Julia,Theophile,Florence, Maria, Emmerence, John and Isreal. I believe her parents to be Jean Baptiste or John Blondin and Mary Beauregard, but have not been able to find a birth, marriage or death record for Louise. If anyone has any information on this family I would greatly appreciate it if you could contact me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm looking for information on Jane (CUNNINGHAM) TYLER, born according to her death record about 30 Nov. 1838 in Franklin County, died in Enosburgh, 29 May 1913. Her death record says her father was John CUNNINGHAM? I'm trying to find if her mother was Lucy (FOX) CUNNINGHAM. She was married to Henry TYLER, b. 23 Nov. 1836; died in Enosburgh, 18 Mar. 1909. I don't know when they were married, nor do I know where they are buried. I've found one record that also calls her Mary Jane Cunningham. My great-great-great grandparents were John and Lucy (FOX) CUNNINGHAM, and they did have a daughter named Jane who was born around 1838. I'd love to know if this is she. The dates fit right. Thank you. Kathy Campbell Jacksonville, FL

Vicki, On the 1850 census in Derby, Orleans, VT, there was a Jacob Chase living next to a John Bullock. This Bullock household included Phebe, 10, and Sarah, 14. Unless you have already eliminated this Sarah, you might want to look at Derby marriage records. Brides usually married in their home towns, and marriage records often contain parents' names. Per the FamilySearch pilot website, there was a Phoebe Chase who was born 06 Apr 1862 in Wheelock Twp., Caledonia, VT. Good luck to you! Katherine -----Original Message----- From: vtfrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vtfrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vicki Scearce Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:00 PM To: VTFRANKL@rootsweb.com Subject: [VTFRA] Help finding my CHASE in 1835,Franklin Co,VT?? How else can I search for Edwin CHASE,born in Montgomery,Franklin co,Vermont? Do not know the name of his parents,only they were born in New Hampshire.No name of siblings either.  I only found him listed in the 1880 census for Poweshiek co,Iowa.Some of his children were born in Vt.starting in 1858. He married Sarah BULLOCK in 1855,but not sure exactly where.  Suggestions would be greatly appreciated on starting a search for this CHASE line. Vicki Scearce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emd1174 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4118.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No problem! :-) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jack4282 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4118.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You're welcome, DONNA. Got it right this time. Sorry I had it wrong in the first post. Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emd1174 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4118.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much - I will definitely look into this! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Without a doubt, the town's name has been variously spelled in the past. The official Web site of the town, at: http://www.enosburghvermont.org/ says this: "Enosburgh includes the village Enosburg Falls and the locations Bordoville, East Enosburgh, North Enosburgh, Samsonville, West Enosburgh, and Enosburgh Center. Enosburgh was named for Roger Enos, who had been a commander of all the Vermont Forces in the American Revolution. He was also Ira Allen's father-in-law. Curiously the spelling of Enosburgh differs from the spelling of Enosburg Falls." That's what gets me every time - the spelling of the two - sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't just say Enosburgh for everything, and then put in the notes, Enosburg Falls, but that wouldn't be right, either. It sort of reminds me of Plattsburg, NY - sometimes it's spelled Plattsburg, and sometimes as Plattsburgh. Thanks. Kathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jack4282 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.counties.franklin/4118.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sarah, There are microfilmed copies of the town and vital records of both Swanton and Highgate for 1835 and earlier. I have ordered them and used them at a Family History Center. For Highgate: Film #0028309 is Town and Vital Records Vol. 1-2B, 1794-1895. Film # 221068 is card index to marriages and births in Highgate, 1800-1895. For Swanton: Film 2210843, Swanton Vital Records, 1793-1852. My note on this is: "Very few early records, most are between 1825 and 1907." Film #0847996, Town records Vol 2, 1823-1903. Best wishes, Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.