In a message dated 2/26/00 1:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, vdander@denver.net writes: << The real reason for all the hullabaloo is that deep, deep down, the Varmonters know they really should be called New Hampshirites or New Yorkers. Vern D From the Land of the Champagne Powder (vice the Stowe Cement) *[%>) >> That's quite possible. All I know is that I was having trouble understanding why one Vermont ancestor in one census listed birthplace as NY, then the next census he said he was born in Vermont! I was massly confused (just as I thought he was) until I started reading up on the history of the border changes. Lydia Living in beautiful Mendon "river".