It might be a good idea if all of us on the Chittenden Co. list would "check in" with just the surnames they are researching, the time frame i.e. 1750-1800, the towns, of known etc. and in what state you presently reside. Perhaps we could effectively share information and perhaps even do some looks-ups in our home state, if appropriate, on a voluntary basis naturally. I am presently a subscriber on a CT list and we have LOTS of shared information and contributions by all. My main lines of research are: REDFIELD late 1700's early 1800's Hinesburg; REYNOLDS, 1800-1880, Williston; ROBBINS 1786-1850 Richmond; Also BARNEY, BUSHNELL, THURSTON spouses of REYNOLDS. Perhaps someone else on the list will be researching my names or yours. I live in Wisconsin and have access to the State Historical Library here. Nancy Vogt

I found a number of references to VT records at my local Historical Library(WI) Perhaps some of these would be available to those on the list with a good genealogical library in your local area. Vital Records of Rockingham Vt and Records of First Church of Rockingham, VT 1773 to 1839 323 pages. Genealogical Society of VT #3 Special Publication Vital Records of Putney VT to 1900 406 pages. Author Ken Stearns Published by the Genealogical Society of VT 1992 VT Vital Records, by Peter Mollett 305 pages Genealogical Society of VT Special Publication #4. Hitory of Chittenden Co., VT including Biographical Sketches published in 1886; 167 pages (forgot to write the author <sigh>. On microfilm at my library. l reel. Look around Essex and Williston, VT by Lilian Baker Carlisle Pub. 1973 by Chittenden Co. Historical Society. Heritage Pamphlet Series #4 Look around Hinesburg and Charlotte Same Author and Publisher Heritage Pamplet Series #5 Look around Shelburne and St. George 60 pages. Same author and publisher. Heritage Pamphlet #7 Richmond same author and publisher Heritage Pamphlet #6 Historical Pamphlet Collection Margaret Jenks author; Chitt., Mendon,Pittsfield and Sherburne cemetery inscriptions published 1991; 94 pages. Pamphlet Section. A guide to Vosburgh Church Records (which are on microfilm) by Robert M. Murphy 42 pages. Pamphlet: George Goldthwait Ingersall minister of First Congregational Church, Burlington, VT 33 pages. I didn't have time to search the pamphlets but I did look through the first 4 items I listed above. Even when the records don't specifically say Chittenden Co in the title, there are references to Chittenden Co. towns in many of these. Nancy Vogt

Searching for any data on Beriah Hoyt (b. 1779, CT) who was in Burlington VT in 1810 census. By 1820 he was in Malone, Franklin County, NY. Interested also in info on wife's name, and 12 daughters. Thank you.

Nancy Vermont law did not require that town clerks keep vital records until 1856. Some town clerks voluntarily kept vital records before that date, however such records were not uniformly kept or available today. Mal Bevins, VTCHITTE-L Manager Nancy Vogt wrote: > --WebTV-Mail-401-3986 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > I am having the same difficulty with obtaining a marriage record for > 1846. > > I am of the opinion that the only other source would be to locate church > records kept by the minister. Perhaps the Mormans have filmed these?? > > Does anyone on the list know if such records exist for the time frame of > 1800-1850? > > Nancy > > --WebTV-Mail-401-3986 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from mailsorter-101-7.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.41) by > storefull-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 > 21:15:57 -0700 (PDT) > Return-Path: <VTCHITTE-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by > mailsorter-101-7.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) > with ESMTP id VAA17836; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:15:44 -0700 (PDT) > Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id > e6B493217900; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:09:03 -0700 > Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:09:03 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net Mon Jul 10 21:09:03 2000 > X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > ETAtAhUAj1PsukXtiUxVZgBqaXUZuDQXzJoCFE7rq/RgezNYYiuEviRWVypak2Kh > From: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net (Juanita Custodio) > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:09:07 -0600 (MDT) > Old-To: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Vt town records > Message-ID: <11955-396A9DE3-6693@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> > In-Reply-To: VTCHITTE-D-request@rootsweb.com's message of Fri, 20 Aug 1999 > 23:21:17 -0700 (PDT) > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) > Resent-Message-ID: <2gpg8B.A.cXE.f3pa5@lists6.rootsweb.com> > To: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/622 > X-Loop: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: VTCHITTE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Hi---if you recall I was trying to locate a marriage record for 1837 for > RICHARD E LOOMIS and FIDELIA CLOFF/CLUFF. First I wrote to Montpelior > who responded that they had no records (and kept my money)...Then I > wrote to the town clerk of Charlotte, Chittenden Co and this was her > response: "Sorry -- No records were found -- our vital records only go > back to approx. 1857." and she returned my check.....Now what??? > Juanita > > --WebTV-Mail-401-3986--

--WebTV-Mail-401-3986 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I am having the same difficulty with obtaining a marriage record for 1846. I am of the opinion that the only other source would be to locate church records kept by the minister. Perhaps the Mormans have filmed these?? Does anyone on the list know if such records exist for the time frame of 1800-1850? Nancy --WebTV-Mail-401-3986 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-7.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.41) by storefull-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <VTCHITTE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by mailsorter-101-7.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id VAA17836; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e6B493217900; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:09:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:09:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net Mon Jul 10 21:09:03 2000 X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAj1PsukXtiUxVZgBqaXUZuDQXzJoCFE7rq/RgezNYYiuEviRWVypak2Kh From: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net (Juanita Custodio) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Old-To: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Vt town records Message-ID: <11955-396A9DE3-6693@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: VTCHITTE-D-request@rootsweb.com's message of Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <2gpg8B.A.cXE.f3pa5@lists6.rootsweb.com> To: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/622 X-Loop: VTCHITTE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: VTCHITTE-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi---if you recall I was trying to locate a marriage record for 1837 for RICHARD E LOOMIS and FIDELIA CLOFF/CLUFF. First I wrote to Montpelior who responded that they had no records (and kept my money)...Then I wrote to the town clerk of Charlotte, Chittenden Co and this was her response: "Sorry -- No records were found -- our vital records only go back to approx. 1857." and she returned my check.....Now what??? Juanita --WebTV-Mail-401-3986--

Hi---if you recall I was trying to locate a marriage record for 1837 for RICHARD E LOOMIS and FIDELIA CLOFF/CLUFF. First I wrote to Montpelior who responded that they had no records (and kept my money)...Then I wrote to the town clerk of Charlotte, Chittenden Co and this was her response: "Sorry -- No records were found -- our vital records only go back to approx. 1857." and she returned my check.....Now what??? Juanita

Am looking for information on the following: James Smith b. abt 1827 NY Father: Joseph Smith Mother: Arinath ?????? Sophronia Stockwell b. abt 1833 Bolton VT. Father: Eleizer Stockwell Mother: Norilla Lewis I believe that Eleizer and Norilla were married abt 1830 Bolton Vt. It is said that they have a fairly large family, I have been told 10 children. James and Sophronia were married November 24, 1854 ( I beleive in Bolton, VT) and shortly thereafter they moved on to Wisconsin to start their own family. Any information that you could provide would be thankful. Thanks in advance. dsegan@mhtc.net Deb

Thanks to each and everyone of you who responded to my humble message... I had over 100 responses, and all but 2 were in agreement.Both were list admistrators... ONE, WCKY, DIDNT FEEL IT BELONGED ON THE LIST, AND THE OTHER, PENNSYLVANIA-ROOTS TOLD ME I WAS NOT AUTHORIZED... I DIDNT REALIZE THAT PENNSYLVANIA-ROOTS WAS A RESTRICTED LIST...Where I wasnt authorized to post, SO, I UNSUBBED...... I offered my apologies, and forgot it. It is nice to know that so many have the patriotism to respond irregardless of "rules". Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

Hello. I live in Vermont and have found the staff of the General Services Ctr. in Middlesex very helpful during my many visits to them while doing my genealogical research. They receive many telephone & written requests daily. To respond to your inquiry re: on line resources. You might want to check out the Vermont Historical Society web site. It has addresses/contact person and in some cases email links to all Vermont towns. Their web site is <A HREF="http://www.state.vt.us/vhs/">http://www.state.vt.us/vhs/</A> Another suggestion is to check out the link for the Vermont Secretary of State' page found on the State of Vermont Home Page. The link called "GUIDE TO VERMONT'S TOWN CLERKS, TREASURERS AND COUNTY CLERKS, 1999" The address is : http://www.sec.state.vt.us/pubs/ClerksandTreasurersDirectory/index.htm Hope this helps. Good luck. Lynn

We should all take a moment to reflect upon what this holiday is all about, other than babeball, cookouts, and family reunions. As a Veteran, I am proud to be an American, and to be able to reflect on the true meaning of the 4th of July. Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

I, too thank all who volunteered advice. I live in Wisconsin which did not become a state until 1848, and therefore records are somewhat difficult to find early on. I believe that I was working under the assumption that the states on the east coast all had records going back much earlier and in fact some do have records back to the 1600's. I have had more difficulty with NH, NY and VT. I understand that fire was often the cause of lost data. I suppose now the poor town clerks in Chittenden Co. will be flooded with requests! Nancy Vogt

To everyone who responded with suggestions regarding Vt. marriage records, thank you so much....I will resend my request to the town clerk of Charlotte and keep my fingers crossed. -------Juanita-----

Dear Vermont researchers, I am a native Vermonter (7 generations in Huntington and Hinesburg!) presently living in Chicago. I have done a great deal of genealogy research in Vermont and want to tell you all a little bit about their system. Vital records and deeds in Vermont are mostly kept by the TOWN, not the COUNTY, as most other non-New England states do. Most towns began keeping some vital records as soon as the town was organized, but this was strictly voluntary, people were not REQUIRED to register their births, marriages and deaths until much later (about the turn of the century). You are much more apt to find a marriage record than a birth, and very few deaths were recorded. You can get any vital record from the town, but the response time and price charged vary greatly (call first). Most towns do not have an index for their vital records and you will get a much better response if you know the date as closely as possible. About 1918 the town clerks of every town in Vermont were required to transcribe all of their Vital Records onto cards and send them to the state, where they were assembled into a grand alphabetical index. These cards contain in most cases all of the information in the original record, including birthplaces and parent's names etc. If it is not on the card, it is not in the original record (in nearly every case). It is these cards (now on microfilm to protect the originals) which are consulted when you send a request to Montpelier. The state Vital records facility is now located in Middlesex (about 5 miles away), but any request to Montpelier is forwarded there automatically. You can go to Middlesex and consult the cards yourself and when you do you will be working in the same room as the 3 vital records clerks and can observe them. I have done so many times and can tell you 1)they try to answer most requests the same day they come in. 2)they check the cards as carefully as they can, trying different spellings, etc. 3)if they report back that they cannot find the record, it means they have probably spent a long time looking. If you get a response of "no record" does that mean it does not exist? Not necessarily. Some towns made a real effort to get all their old records onto the cards and even went out to the old cemeteries and transcribed from the old stones. Other towns weren't so careful and some of their records did not get transcribed. Also, the cards are hand-written copies of hand-written old books and so may be so badly mis-spelled that the clerks cannot find your person in a reasonable time. What to do? Do your own looking, and you don't have to go to Vermont to do it, either. Fortunately, the Mormons have filmed ALL of the vital records and early town records of EVERY Vermont town, and they have also filmed the index cards that the Montpelier clerks are using. You can go into any LDS Family History Center and have a film of that town's records or that part of the grand index sent to you for about $3.50, then look for yourself and make any copies you like. That's the only way to be sure. Check every page of the early town records as you will often find marriages just stuck in among the town meeting minutes and tavern licenses and stock ear marks, etc., just as the town clerk added them in. You can look up what the Mormons have available for your town on their website: www.familysearch.org Click on "Custom Search" and then search the Family History Library Catalog. Or pay a visit to Vermont. It's beautiful. Valerie George

Hi Nancy, I don't know where you live, but we're here in Arizona, born and raised in Burington,Vt. many moons ago.(haha) I have never sent for anything through the mail to Montpelier as far as records go. Our daughter and I went back in '92 and we went to Montpelier, but found nothing, and were advised to go to Middlesex, just outside of Montpelier, where we got copies (certified) and at that time they were $5.oo each. Now, I believe they are $7.oo-$10.oo. We had much better luck going to the City Hall in Burlington to the town clerks' office and were allowed to go in the back room where all the big ledgers were and had a 'ball' finding certificates and we copied them at 'NO' charge--it was so 'fun' and 'exciting' to see the Census of the Living and also, those who had died in our family and the dates, cause of, etc. I think you'd have much better luck at town clerks' offices and/ or city halls and/or Libraries, Federal offices, etc. My hubby and I went home to Vt. last year and did a few more certificates and also in '95 and they were charging $1.00 per copy, so maybe it got too hectic in that 'wee' room and all these genealogists running wild.(haha). Just wanted to 'share' our experiences and hope they 'helped' you in some "small way". Do you have any kin and/or friends who could do lookups for you in Vt. ? I don't, as my relatives are too old and our friends aren't interested in this genealogy thingy, you know ? So, we'll be going back home next year or possibly in the Fall again, and look for some more certificates. Best of Luck & Happy Hunting...! Joan P.S.--Nancy I did retrieve some Baptism and Burial certificates from one of the Catholic Churchs in Burlington, and the Episcopal church, also.... but when we went to the cemeteries where they said they buried my ggg-grandparents, they were nowhere to be found, and then we even went to 'all' the cemeteries in town, but to no avail--so next time, we will go to the diosese of both churchs, and find out what's going on and find out where my grandparents,from Ireland are ? Hopefully. Someone told me that sometime they are buried with other close relatives, underneath or on top of-- but have no gravestone, because of 'poorness' to even afford the burial in those days---I don't know...! Didn't mean this to be so long--hope you don't mind, but wanted to save you more money--'sending' and hope I helped somehow...they sure can send you on wild goose chases, sometimes...!! Sincerely, Joan Write when you can, if you want to.

I had the same experience. I sent in $21.00 for three records. They came back (in a very short period of time) all marked "No record found". There are three possible explanations that I can think of offhand. 1. The clerk in the office did not even bother to look. Just marked the record "not found" and kept the money for the State of VT. 2. The marriage took place at home and was not recorded officially. 3. The birth took place at home and was also not recorded officially. I would like to locate a number of records in VT but I fear that I will have the same result--"no record found" but we are keeping your money. It would be helpful if there was some way to find a list of churches for various time periods in the towns of VT and perhaps a record exists of marriages and baptisms by the minister. Another thought would be to contact the town clerk or local historian. I don't know if this information is available on line. Anyone?? Nancy Vogt

I sent away to Montpelier, Vt. for a copy of a marriage certificate for RICHARD E LOOMIS and FIDELIA CLOFF/CLUFF who were supposedly married on June 9, 1837 in Charlotte, Chittenden Co., Vt.....They responded that they had no records for said people.............What does this mean? That THEY don't have these records or that this marriage did not take place??? Should I try the town clerk in Charlotte??????? HELP> Juanita

Sorry for the duplicate queries. Hope it wasn't too much of an inconvenience. I'm trying to get finished "playing genalogy" so I can get home and cook a quick supper! Thus, I didn't read ALL of the instructions! This is the only rootsweb list I've ever seen that uses this format, and it just didn't dawn on me that it would be so different. ; ) AnnMcReynolds-Nall St. Louis

ARMcR@msn.com - Ann McReynolds-Nall - Thursday, July 29, 20:30, 2000 I'm looking for all information available about my husband's ever-so-great gf, David ROBERTS, Jr. (b. 5/23/1800 in Chittenden County VT), whose family moved to Delaware County about 1815. Both he and his father, also David ROBERTS (b. 1760 in MA), are listed in the Orange Township Census for 1820 and 1830. David POOLE Jr. m. Lovina POOLE in neighboring Franklin County on April 22, 1818, and most of their 14 children were b. in OH, before they moved on to Pike County IL in 1839 along with David, Sr., who lived to the ripe old age of 86.

ARMcR@msn.com - Ann McReynolds-Nall - Thursday, July 29, 20:30, 2000 I'm looking for all information available about my husband's ever-so-great gm, Lovina POOLE (b. 1803 in Chenango County NY); she was the daughter of Joseph and Sally POOLE, who were from an old Massachusetts family, but they moved to OH by 1810, and Joseph died in 1822. Their son, Joseph POOLE, JR (b. 1801 in NY) stayed in Orange Township until his death in 1849. Their daughter, Lovina POOLE m. David ROBERTS Jr. of Delaware County on April 22, 1818 (IN Franklin County?), and most of their 14 children were b. in OH, before they moved on to Pike County IL in 1839.

I'm looking for all information available about my husband's ever-so-great gf, David ROBERTS, Jr. (b. 5/23/1800 in Chittenden County VT), whose family moved to Delaware County about 1815. Both he and his father, also David ROBERTS (b. 1760 in MA), are listed in the Orange Township Census for 1820 and 1830. David POOLE Jr. m. Lovina POOLE in neighboring Franklin County on April 22, 1818, and most of their 14 children were b. in OH, before they moved on to Pike County IL in 1839 along with David, Sr., who lived to the ripe old age of 86. Ann McReynolds-Nall St. Louis