Ed, I read your post about the Vermont wesite and noticed you are researcing SMITHs in Caledonia County. I have a SMITH brickwall that maybe you can help me with. Descendants of Phebe Smith 1 Phebe Smith b: in Foster, Providence, RI d: 1872 in Newark, Caledonia, VT .. +Perley Ball b: 20 March 1786 in Guilford/Marlboro, Windham, VT d: 30 September 1884 in Newark, Caledonia, VT m: 09 June 1815 in Newark, Caledonia, VT 2 James B. Ball 2 Edwin Smith Ball b: 13 November 1817 in Newark, Caledonia, VT d: 20 July 1871 in Oxford, MA .... +Mary Cummings b: 22 July 1827 in Auburn, MA d: Aft. 1904 in Oxford, MA m: 07 December 1844 in Dudley, MA 2 Albro Ball b: 15 October 1823 in Newark, Caledonia, VT d: 09 September 1915 in Newark, Caledonia, VT 2 Dorlisha Ball b: 03 May 1824 in Newark, Caledonia, VT d: 03 July 1844 in Newark, Caledonia, VT 2 Elbridge Gerry Ball b: 24 April 1827 in Newark, Caledonia, VT d: 05 July 1910 in FL 2 Hannah Ball b: 26 December 1830 in Newark, Caledonia, VT 2 Almeda Starr Ball b: 12 April 1833 in Newark, Caledonia, VT d: 30 November 1925 in Newark, Caledonia, VT 2 Melvina Starr Ball b: 14 September 1836 in Newark, Caledonia, VT d: 13 June 1838 in Newark, Caledonia, VT 2 Croydon Ball b: 1842 Does she sound familiar? Thanks, Cherryl

Yes, this site looks to be very promising and as Ed says "a great deal potential" Toni Feeney Home Page http://members.nbci.com/tfeeney Free Downloads Page http://members.nbci.com/tfeeney/downloads.html Store Page http://members.nbci.com/tfeeney/store.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Smith <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [VTCAL] The Vermont-L Web Site > Karima, > > I just looked at the website and it is wonderful! I can see a great deal of > potential here. Keep up the good work. > > For the other listers here that haven't taken a peek, you really should. > > Ed Smith > > searching for Smith's in Caledonia County > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > The members ARE the list. > What do you have to contribute? > What do you want to know? -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Karima, I just looked at the website and it is wonderful! I can see a great deal of potential here. Keep up the good work. For the other listers here that haven't taken a peek, you really should. Ed Smith searching for Smith's in Caledonia County

Karima, As a Californiano with slim prospects of ever seeing the home of my ancestors, I'm extremely grateful for your efforts on the new Vermont-L website. Thank You! I'll visit often, and look forward to future updates. Francie in Vallejo CA Researching WILLEY, TAISEY, SENTER, BLAIR, HEATH, GAULT P.S. Is Vermont REALLY as beautiful as the pictures suggest???

Good Evening, I am very pleased to announce that the Vermont-L Web Site has finally been launched. The web site can be found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VERMONTGATEWAY.html I would like to encourage any of you who have photos, articles, or anything pertaining to Vermont, and would like to share them with the rest of the members, to contact me so we can include them on the web site. I also want to assure those of you who have sent me material not on the web site yet, that I am working as fast as I can to get it there. :-) Please let me know, “off list”, of anything you find that needs to be corrected. Also, if you have any information you would like to submit to the site, please let me know. Please visit the site often, as this is a work in progress and new information will be added on a frequent basis. Best wishes, and I hope you enjoy the site, Karima

Please forgive the multiple posts if you subscribe to several Vermont lists. But this is an important piece of history, and we wanted to be sure that anyone interested in it would hear about it. Recently a reader of these lists submitted an article dated Feb 7, 1897 from the St Albans Weekly Messenger. It paints an extremely detailed and very poignant picture of the contemporary conditions in the SHELDON County Poorhouse. The article merits reading by anyone who wishes to understand the realities of day-to-day life in many a poorhouse of the times. This is a MUST READ! Even poorhouses in vastly differing places often were constructed and operated in the manner described so meticulously in this article. While such neglect seems not to have been true for the majority of county poorhouses in the country, it was nevertheless quite common. We have posted the article in its entirety on our website, The POORHOUSE STORY (a clearinghouse for information about 19th century American poorhouses)at http://www.poorhousestory.com (We think you will our formatting easier to read than was the posting by e-mail.) To find the article, please go to the homepage (link above)and click on POORHOUSES BY STATE, then click on VERMONT on the table of states. Near the middle of the page you will find the article highlighted in a blue box with a yellow NEW arrow. This article is of so much historic value that we will feature it on our FEATURED ARTICLES page very soon. Our thanks to Jim Carroll for caring and for taking the time to transcribe the article to share with all of us. Sincerely, Linda M. Crannell (aka=The Poorhouse Lady)

Hi, everybody: For a variety of reasons, including mostly the recent problem that RootsWeb had with one of their mail servers, I have made some changes to settings on some of the lists that I admin. For the most part, you will either not notice any difference, or the change will be minor. Some of the list names that start out the subject line have been shortened; some have been added. Two of the lists have been switched to "reply to list" from "reply to sender" (as the default, you can always choose in your own software), but they may have already been set to reply to list. That was one of the problems during the server fix. For any difficulties, please do not hesitate to contact me. Darrell Rootsweb List Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, FELCH, FORBUSH, LAMSON, LOWER, ROUSSEAU, and RUSSEAU [email protected]

Thomas, I'm sorry, but I do not. I do have the list of children for Elias SMITH & Clarissa BEMIS, but there is no Walter or John among them. They did have two sons as I recall -- Elias SMITH & Silas SMITH. -- Mary Taffet " Thomas W. Perrin" wrote: > > Do you have anything on the Caledonia COunty (St Johnsbury) Smith > descendants. > I'm interested in Walter Perrin Smith, probate Judge of Caledonia County > [b. 1841-d.1918], son of John S. Smith [d 1918] and Sophronia Perrin.[d. > 1887] > > "Mary D. Taffet" wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am a new subscriber to this mailing list. I joined because I recently > > learned that my gg-grandmother, Susan Almira SMITH, was born in the area > > of Lyndon, Caledonia County, VT. > > > > She was the daughter of Clarissa BEMIS & Elias SMITH. Clarissa's > > ancestry through the BEMIS & JENKS lines goes back to the early 1600's. > > But we have no idea who the parents of Elias SMITH were. We know he was > > from New Hampshire, and that he was born circa 1792, but not much else. > > > > [snip]

Do you have anything on the Caledonia COunty (St Johnsbury) Smith descendants. I'm interested in Walter Perrin Smith, probate Judge of Caledonia County [b. 1841-d.1918], son of John S. Smith [d 1918] and Sophronia Perrin.[d. 1887] "Mary D. Taffet" wrote: > > Hello, > > I am a new subscriber to this mailing list. I joined because I recently > learned that my gg-grandmother, Susan Almira SMITH, was born in the area > of Lyndon, Caledonia County, VT. > > She was the daughter of Clarissa BEMIS & Elias SMITH. Clarissa's > ancestry through the BEMIS & JENKS lines goes back to the early 1600's. > But we have no idea who the parents of Elias SMITH were. We know he was > from New Hampshire, and that he was born circa 1792, but not much else. > > Susan Almira SMITH married Joseph Dearborn DRESSER, but I do not know > when or where. I know that the records at the Town Hall in Lyndon are > not available for the years in question (i.e. 1840's up to about 1855). > >From what I was told back in 1997, the book which contains those records > had been missing for at least 15 years prior to that time. > > I found a listing for a microfilm of these records in the Family History > Catalog on the LDS website. Film #28425, "Book of records for recording > marriages, births, deaths, and marks of cattle in the town of Lyndon, v. > 2, 1791-1868 : and also recording warrants for people to depart > Lyndon.", was filmed in 1951, and would therefore appear to contain the > missing records. > > I was wondering if anybody on this list has had an opportunity to view > this microfilm. Are the missing records in fact there on the > microfilm? If they are, then I may try to get it through our local FHC. > > My main desire at this point in time is to identify the parents of > Joseph Dearborn DRESSER, who was born sometime between 1820-1831, > supposedly somewhere in Maine (but we don't know where, and obviously > don't know when). Joseph Dearborn DRESSER was a tailor; he and Susan > and their children lived primarily in Montreal, though they do also > appear to have lived in Brockville, Ontario, for some brief period of > time. Joseph is buried in Brockville, while Susan is buried in the > Lyndon Center Cemetery. > > -- Mary (Dresser) Taffet > [email protected] > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb's Caledonia County, Vermont Mailing List > Acceptable Use Policy at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > -- List admin. [email protected] > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Hello, I am a new subscriber to this mailing list. I joined because I recently learned that my gg-grandmother, Susan Almira SMITH, was born in the area of Lyndon, Caledonia County, VT. She was the daughter of Clarissa BEMIS & Elias SMITH. Clarissa's ancestry through the BEMIS & JENKS lines goes back to the early 1600's. But we have no idea who the parents of Elias SMITH were. We know he was from New Hampshire, and that he was born circa 1792, but not much else. Susan Almira SMITH married Joseph Dearborn DRESSER, but I do not know when or where. I know that the records at the Town Hall in Lyndon are not available for the years in question (i.e. 1840's up to about 1855). From what I was told back in 1997, the book which contains those records had been missing for at least 15 years prior to that time. I found a listing for a microfilm of these records in the Family History Catalog on the LDS website. Film #28425, "Book of records for recording marriages, births, deaths, and marks of cattle in the town of Lyndon, v. 2, 1791-1868 : and also recording warrants for people to depart Lyndon.", was filmed in 1951, and would therefore appear to contain the missing records. I was wondering if anybody on this list has had an opportunity to view this microfilm. Are the missing records in fact there on the microfilm? If they are, then I may try to get it through our local FHC. My main desire at this point in time is to identify the parents of Joseph Dearborn DRESSER, who was born sometime between 1820-1831, supposedly somewhere in Maine (but we don't know where, and obviously don't know when). Joseph Dearborn DRESSER was a tailor; he and Susan and their children lived primarily in Montreal, though they do also appear to have lived in Brockville, Ontario, for some brief period of time. Joseph is buried in Brockville, while Susan is buried in the Lyndon Center Cemetery. -- Mary (Dresser) Taffet [email protected]

Hi Carol -- Gilkerson Albert, age 25,b. VT, Wheelock, Caledonia Co. DH, age 26, b. VT,Barnet, Caledonia Esther, age 53, b. VT,Barnet Harriet E., age 24, b. NH, Hardwick Caledonia John, age 60, b. VT, Stannard, Caledonia Strowbridge Sarah, age 70, b. NH, Lunenburg, Essex Co. Strobridge A. L., age 53, born Ohio, Barnet E. H., age 84, born NH, Barnet Lafayette, age 45, b. VT. Peacham, Caledonia Wm. H., age 48, b. VT, Barnet Cindy Walcott -----Original Message----- From: Carol Bauer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: VT 1870 Census Index -- Lookup Offer Thank you, what a wonderful offer! Would you please look up the following surnames: Gilkerson Strobridge or Strowbridge They would probably be in Caledonia County or St Johnsbury. A lot of the Gilkersons and Strobridges moved to Illinois in the 1850's and I have not figured out who stayed behind. I am assuming each is not too common of a name. If I am wrong, please email back and I will understand. What type of library loans this CD out? Thank you. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Alger and Walcott Family [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: VT 1870 Census Index -- Lookup Offer Hello List -- I have the index to the 1870 census index out from the library. This is a new index, published in 2000 by Heritage Quest. It is really nice! It lists heads of household, primarily. It lists their name, age, gender, race, birthplace (state or country), county and town of residence, along wiht series roll # and page. I am willing to do lookups over the next week, as I can fit them in. In general, I will not be able to entertain requests for all of the people with a certain surname, unless it is real oddball! Please be as specific as you can when making your request, telling me what you know about the person you seek, esp. their approximate age in 1870 and possible place of residence. I understand that you may not know this information, in some cases. Please send your request to me personally so that we don't clutter up the list with requests. If I am able to find something, I will post the answer to the list. If not, I will respond to you personally. My e-mail address is: [email protected] Cindy Walcott Grand Isle, VT ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== "What will we come to with all this pride of ancestry, we Yankees? I think we're all mad." -- Robert Frost "The Generations of Men" lines 86-88 ============================== The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Hi Don Hooper, John JC, age 55, born Maine, Ryegate, Caledonia Co., roll 1616, p. 169 Hooper, John, age 63, b. VT, Groton, Caledonia, roll 1616, p. 70 No listing for Frank. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: Donald L Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 3:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Vermont Look Up Cindy, Would you mind looking up the following and let me know what you get: John J. C. Hooper Frank Hooper John F. Hooper Thanks, Don

Laurie -- Clinton is not listed, nor is Alanson. No William in St. Johnsbury, but there is one the next town over in Danville, age 22, born Canada, roll 1616, p. 54. Also checked Aldridge. Oops -- just see there is a William Aldric in St. Johnsbury, age 60, b. VT. Roll 1616, p. 189. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT-L] VT 1870 Census Index -- Lookup Offer Would you please look up Clinton T. Aldrich born 1852 in St. Johnsbury, VT. Also interested in Alanson & William Aldrich from St. Johnsbury. Thank you Laurie

Hello List -- I have the index to the 1870 census index out from the library. This is a new index, published in 2000 by Heritage Quest. It is really nice! It lists heads of household, primarily. It lists their name, age, gender, race, birthplace (state or country), county and town of residence, along wiht series roll # and page. I am willing to do lookups over the next week, as I can fit them in. In general, I will not be able to entertain requests for all of the people with a certain surname, unless it is real oddball! Please be as specific as you can when making your request, telling me what you know about the person you seek, esp. their approximate age in 1870 and possible place of residence. I understand that you may not know this information, in some cases. Please send your request to me personally so that we don't clutter up the list with requests. If I am able to find something, I will post the answer to the list. If not, I will respond to you personally. My e-mail address is: [email protected] Cindy Walcott Grand Isle, VT

I don't know if LDS has them - I would think they would. I accessed them here in Vermont, on microfilm at Public Records. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: Marjorie Landreville [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VTCALEDO] From list admin re: Sheffield book Where are these records available? I don't remember seeing them listed at the LDS FHL? Margie Cindy Walcott wrote: > Hi Marjorie -- Book One of the Sheffield Town Records, whch includes the running town records, interspersed with vital records. > > Cindy > > On Tue, 02 January 2001, Marjorie Landreville wrote: > > > > > This stuff is wonderful, Cindy, but I must have missed something -- what > > is > > the "Sheffield book?" > > > > Margie > > > > "Darrell A. Martin" wrote: > > > > > Hi, Cindy: > > > > > > Good job! Thanks for your valuable contribution. > > > > > > Darrell > > > > > > Rootsweb List Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, > > > FELCH, FORBUSH, LAMSON, LOWER, ROUSSEAU, and RUSSEAU > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > > > It is more important to BE a good ancestor than to FIND one. > > > Fortunately, one does not usually have to choose between the two. > > > -- List admin. [email protected] > > > > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > > "What will we come to with all this pride of ancestry, > > we Yankees? I think we're all mad." > > -- Robert Frost "The Generations of Men" lines 86-88 > > Cindy Walcott > Grand Isle, VT > Researching: Robblee, Roblee, Rublee, Towle, Alger, > Walcott > ________________________________________ > Surfree.com - nationwide internet access > http://www.surfree.com > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > "What will we come to with all this pride of ancestry, > we Yankees? I think we're all mad." > -- Robert Frost "The Generations of Men" lines 86-88 ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== Rootsweb's Caledonia County, Vermont Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html -- List admin. [email protected]

Where are these records available? I don't remember seeing them listed at the LDS FHL? Margie Cindy Walcott wrote: > Hi Marjorie -- Book One of the Sheffield Town Records, whch includes the running town records, interspersed with vital records. > > Cindy > > On Tue, 02 January 2001, Marjorie Landreville wrote: > > > > > This stuff is wonderful, Cindy, but I must have missed something -- what > > is > > the "Sheffield book?" > > > > Margie > > > > "Darrell A. Martin" wrote: > > > > > Hi, Cindy: > > > > > > Good job! Thanks for your valuable contribution. > > > > > > Darrell > > > > > > Rootsweb List Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, > > > FELCH, FORBUSH, LAMSON, LOWER, ROUSSEAU, and RUSSEAU > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > > > It is more important to BE a good ancestor than to FIND one. > > > Fortunately, one does not usually have to choose between the two. > > > -- List admin. [email protected] > > > > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > > "What will we come to with all this pride of ancestry, > > we Yankees? I think we're all mad." > > -- Robert Frost "The Generations of Men" lines 86-88 > > Cindy Walcott > Grand Isle, VT > Researching: Robblee, Roblee, Rublee, Towle, Alger, > Walcott > ________________________________________ > Surfree.com - nationwide internet access > http://www.surfree.com > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > "What will we come to with all this pride of ancestry, > we Yankees? I think we're all mad." > -- Robert Frost "The Generations of Men" lines 86-88

This is exactly the kind of information I am trying to find. Thank you. I will be in touch. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 6:07 AM Subject: [VTCALEDO] Re: info for article on fraud > Dear S.J. > What an interesting subject to research. > While I have not been the subject of genealogical fraud, I have an > opinion about it. I think that one of the worst things to do to a beginning > researcher, which boarders on fraud, is to offer them useless products. I > can think of 2 for example. First are the books containing "all" the people > in the U.S. with the same surname. The publishers of these have downloaded > all the same surnames from current nation-wide telephone directories and > published them as a book. Unless you have a very unusual name, these are > pretty much a waste of money. (My father-in-law bought one several years > ago, and it was a waste of money.) Second are the people offering "25 family > group sheets" of a particular surname. (I see this often on e-bay, including > one current one for my surname Moulton) Again, unless you have a very very > unusual name, these are worthless. > I think that some beginning genealogists also lose money because they > don't know what they are looking for, and therefore are not able to give > hired researchers proper information. When they don't get helpful > information back, they may erronously jump to the conclusion that they have > "been taken," when it really was their own fault due to ignorance. > Finally, some may consider bad researching fraud. For example, I > volunteer in the NH vital records vault once a month. Recently a patron came > in to do research for someone else who had corresponded with him on-line. I > surely wouldn't have wanted that person doing research for me after I saw the > sloppy notes and careless searching he did. However, since he had > volunteered to do the lookups, and was not being paid, I guess I wouldn't > call his results fraud. If he had been paid, and supplied the other person > with incorrect or incomplete results, is it really fraud or just plain bad > researching? Except for hiring accredited or certified researchers, we all > take a lot of chances when we hire a researcher since it is difficult to > judge the credentials of researchers, except by word-of-mouth reputations. > Thanks for letting me put in my two cents. > -Mary Ellen Moulton, Plaistow, NH > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > No, I've never been to Scotland. But I've been close; > I've visited Caledonia County, Vermont. > -- List admin. [email protected] >

Hi Marjorie -- Book One of the Sheffield Town Records, whch includes the running town records, interspersed with vital records. Cindy On Tue, 02 January 2001, Marjorie Landreville wrote: > > This stuff is wonderful, Cindy, but I must have missed something -- what > is > the "Sheffield book?" > > Margie > > "Darrell A. Martin" wrote: > > > Hi, Cindy: > > > > Good job! Thanks for your valuable contribution. > > > > Darrell > > > > Rootsweb List Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, > > FELCH, FORBUSH, LAMSON, LOWER, ROUSSEAU, and RUSSEAU > > [email protected] > > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > > It is more important to BE a good ancestor than to FIND one. > > Fortunately, one does not usually have to choose between the two. > > -- List admin. [email protected] > > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > "What will we come to with all this pride of ancestry, > we Yankees? I think we're all mad." > -- Robert Frost "The Generations of Men" lines 86-88 Cindy Walcott Grand Isle, VT Researching: Robblee, Roblee, Rublee, Towle, Alger, Walcott ________________________________________ Surfree.com - nationwide internet access http://www.surfree.com

This stuff is wonderful, Cindy, but I must have missed something -- what is the "Sheffield book?" Margie "Darrell A. Martin" wrote: > Hi, Cindy: > > Good job! Thanks for your valuable contribution. > > Darrell > > Rootsweb List Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, > FELCH, FORBUSH, LAMSON, LOWER, ROUSSEAU, and RUSSEAU > [email protected] > > ==== VTCALEDO Mailing List ==== > It is more important to BE a good ancestor than to FIND one. > Fortunately, one does not usually have to choose between the two. > -- List admin. [email protected]

Dear S.J. What an interesting subject to research. While I have not been the subject of genealogical fraud, I have an opinion about it. I think that one of the worst things to do to a beginning researcher, which boarders on fraud, is to offer them useless products. I can think of 2 for example. First are the books containing "all" the people in the U.S. with the same surname. The publishers of these have downloaded all the same surnames from current nation-wide telephone directories and published them as a book. Unless you have a very unusual name, these are pretty much a waste of money. (My father-in-law bought one several years ago, and it was a waste of money.) Second are the people offering "25 family group sheets" of a particular surname. (I see this often on e-bay, including one current one for my surname Moulton) Again, unless you have a very very unusual name, these are worthless. I think that some beginning genealogists also lose money because they don't know what they are looking for, and therefore are not able to give hired researchers proper information. When they don't get helpful information back, they may erronously jump to the conclusion that they have "been taken," when it really was their own fault due to ignorance. Finally, some may consider bad researching fraud. For example, I volunteer in the NH vital records vault once a month. Recently a patron came in to do research for someone else who had corresponded with him on-line. I surely wouldn't have wanted that person doing research for me after I saw the sloppy notes and careless searching he did. However, since he had volunteered to do the lookups, and was not being paid, I guess I wouldn't call his results fraud. If he had been paid, and supplied the other person with incorrect or incomplete results, is it really fraud or just plain bad researching? Except for hiring accredited or certified researchers, we all take a lot of chances when we hire a researcher since it is difficult to judge the credentials of researchers, except by word-of-mouth reputations. Thanks for letting me put in my two cents. -Mary Ellen Moulton, Plaistow, NH