This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAC.2ACI/1461 Message Board Post: I'm looking for any info on Hop Johnson. He ran a tavern on Otter creek during the 1780's

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Champion, Ayers, Harris, Hubbell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAC.2ACI/8.2.1 Message Board Post: Teena, What a wonderful surprise! My data on Daniel is still so limited, so getting info from near the source is great. The death date I'd had on Daniel was 23 May 1856, so it's good to find out what's on the gravestone. Lusene would be his first wife, who I have as Lucena Harris. But I didn't have any dates for her. With this date, I think she's probably the mother of his children, rather than wife Aseneth, whom I'd had as their mother. I'm really curious about Sanford Ayres. I'll do some searching to see what I can find on him. Do you possibly have pictures of the graves? Or would it be possible for you to photograph the gravestones? I would love to see them and be able to show family. I'd gladly reimburse you for the costs of film, developing and postage. Thank you so much for sharing this with me! Marilyn Williams

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/8.2 Message Board Post: Hi Marilyn, I live in Panton, Daniel Champion is buried in Hawley Cemetery in Panton, his gravestone states: Daniel Champion died May 24, 1867 he is found in the 1800 and 1810 census for Panton, VT buried near him is a Lusene Champion died September 8, 1810 there is also Ayres/ Ayers in the cemetery also. I recall a Sanford Ayres. He must have settled in the part of Panton, that became Vergennes. hope this helps you Teena

All set on the Murray look up, thanks Brenda!!

Thanks for the look up, Brenda! Would someone be able to look up my gg-grandfather, John N. Murray, b. Nov. 5, 1773 in the 1850 (town of Addison, I believe) Addison County census?  His birthdate is all I know, do not have wife's name, etc. Hoping there are not too many John Murrays!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RIDER RYDER, CANFIELD, HASTINGS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/1460 Message Board Post: Does anyone know of the whereabouts of any descendants of Washington Irving Rider or Ryder, born 13 Oct 1847 in New Haven, Addison Co., VT; died 8 Sep 1929; he was son of Richard Dunning RIDER and Lucy CANFIELD Washington married twice; first to Sarah HASTINGS, of Bristol, Addison Co., VT, and had Lucy Fidela RIDER/RYDER, b. 25 Oct 1872 in New Haven, VT; Kitty Angeline RIDER/RYDER, b. 5 Oct 1876 in Weybridge, Addison Co., VT; Martin A. RIDER/RYDER, b. 18 Oct 1877 in New Haven, VT; Charles Wringht RIDER/RYDER, b. 5 Dec 1879 in New Haven, VT; and Leana May RIDER/RYDER, b. 6 Jun 1882 in New Haven, VT Washington married 2) to Anna E. Tracey on 20 Jun 1891 in Bristol, VT. Lucy F. RYDER was a nurse, graduated from the Presbyterian Hospital School of Nursing (now Columbia) in NY City, living there in the 1900 census. Any help would be apprciated.

Patti: 1850 Addison, Addison, VT p. 107 8 Nov. 1850 Andrew Murray, 80, male, farmer, value of real estate-$1700, born Conn Polly, 72, female, born Vermont Patterson, 35 (or 38), male, farmer, born Vermont Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: [VTADDISO] Addison County/1850/Murray > Would someone be able to check for Andrew Murray (son of Joseph Jr.), and > wife Polly (Bartlett) Murray, town of Addison, county of Addison in the 1850 > census? He was born Aug. 8, 1770. > > thanks so much if you can help! > Patti > > > > ==== VTADDISO Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the following: > [email protected] > Put either the word, subscribe, or unsubscribe in the subject line and body of the message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Would someone be able to check for Andrew Murray (son of Joseph Jr.), and wife Polly (Bartlett) Murray, town of Addison, county of Addison in the 1850 census?  He was born Aug. 8, 1770. thanks so much if you can help! Patti

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/1448.1.2.1.3.2.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Ray, I don't know if I told you but I have info on John Henry Rodd. Last summer or the summer before I went to Chicopee Falls Massachusetts. I went to St. Rosa Lima cemetary. I called the ahead and aquired about John Henry and Malvina Martel grave site. I taken pictures of John and Malvina headstone (huge) Most of the stones were in french. John &Malvina daughter Rose is also buried their. I gave the pictures to my parents the next I visit my dad I will look for the picture. John was born June 25, 1849 and died Dec 28, 1934. If I find the picture would you like me to send you one? If so just e-mail at [email protected] and leave your address. Also I know Daniels is related but I misplaced alot of my paper work. I hope I will locate alot of my info when we start packing for our new home. Well thanks again and have a great night. Sincerley Karen

Is there anyone who goes to any of the below facilities who might do a look up of a birth record for me?? I have just found new info on my great grandfather that he was born in Addison County. I knew it was Vermont, but never which county. The microfilmed, indexed Vermont vital records may be researched at the <A HREF="http://www.bgs.state.vt.us/gsc/pubrec/referen/index.html"> Vermont Public Records Division, Department of Buildings & General Services</A>.  Microfilmed copies of all, or portions of these for the 1760-1908 era may also be researched through the New England Historical Genealogical Society, the Allen County Public Library and the FHL.

These are my possible Addison County ancestors. I start three generations later with my known names such as my great grandfather John N. Murray (Murry) born 5/8/1804 in Addison County. Anything sound familiar??    Joseph Murray married Hannah Pattison, April 16, 1724.  Children: Elizabeth, born Jan. 24, 1725; James, b. May 19, 1727;John, b. July 2, 1729;  Mary, b. Oct. 2, 1731; Elisha, b. March 19, 1734; Hannah, b. July 27, 1736; Ruba, b. March 12, 1739; Parthena, b. June 7, 1741; Joseph Jr., b. Feb. 27, 1744, d. Jan. 18, 1816; Philemon, b. Aug. 2, 1746; Eunice, b. July 16, 1749.    Joseph Murray, Jr. married Isabella Burritt.  Children: Andrew, b. Aug. 8, 1770, d. March 18, 1853; Lucy, b. Feb. 8, 1772; John N., b. Nov. 5, 1773; Sally, b. May 28, 1775; Harriet, b. Dec. 2, 1776; Anna, b. May 19, 1778;  Betsy, b. May 18, 1786.    Andrew Murray, son of Joseph Jr., married Polly Bartlett, daughter of Ichabod Bartlett and Azuba Norton.  They married and lived in Addison, VT.

Hi Patti, Here is the info on Archibald Murray from NEHGS: Murray- Information of any kind regarding the following persons is desired. Joseph Murray married Hannah Pattison, April 16, 1724. Children: Elizabeth, born Jan. 24, 1725; James, b. May 19, 1727;John, b. July 2, 1729; Mary, b. Oct. 2, 1731; Elisha, b. March 19, 1734; Hannah, b. July 27, 1736; Ruba, b. March 12, 1739; Parthena, b. June 7, 1741; Joseph Jr., b. Feb. 27, 1744, d. Jan. 18, 1816; Philemon, b. Aug. 2, 1746; Eunice, b. July 16, 1749. Joseph Murray, Jr. married Isabella Burritt. Children: Andrew, b. Aug. 8, 1770, d. March 18, 1853; Lucy, b. Feb. 8, 1772; John N., b. Nov. 5, 1773; Sally, b. May 28, 1775; Harriet, b. Dec. 2, 1776; Anna, b. May 19, 1778; Betsy, b. May 18, 1786. Andrew Murray, son of Joseph Jr., married Polly Bartlett, daughter of Ichabod Bartlett and Azuba Norton. They married and lived in Addison, VT. 120 Joralemon St., Brooklyn, New York ARCHIBALD MURRAY, M.D.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/1448.1.2.1.3.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ray, Thanks, hear from you soon. If I find more info I will be in touch. Thanks again Sincerely Karen Rodd-Barnes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodd Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/1448.1.2.1.3.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes. THere has been arguement over John Henry for a few years. I am trying to sort through records to show who he is related to. I should know within the next few weeks. So far he was born in 4 different years, had children by 4 different women, died in two different years and in two different locations. Will keep you updated. Ray

Source,The Brandon Post--Thurs.July 11,1850. MARRIED. In this town (Brandon) on the 4th inst., by Rev. C. A. Thomas, Mr. Wm. B. Martin of Orwell, to Miss Lucy B. Thatcher of this place.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/1448.1.2.1.3.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ray, I made amistake with John Henry father, his fathers name was Theodroe who was married to Flavie Montiminy married Nov 27, 1833 in La Acadie Quebec. I'm sorry about the mix up. By the way does any of the above info sound familiar? Please e-mail, thanks for being patient with me. Sincerely Karen Rodd-Barnes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodd Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nAC.2ACI/1448.1.2.1.3.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I do have some information on Joseph: Joseph (1842 - 1917) married Louisa Richards (1841 - 1921) around 1859. Marie Louise (1859) Joseph Junior (1862) Armenia (1965) John (1867) Marie Clara (Clary) (1870) Julia (1872) Ray

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAC.2ACI/1459 Message Board Post: New England Historical and Genealogical Society Register Vol. 49, page 75 - article by Archibald Murray, M.D. - can anyone look this up for me and email, fax or mail it to me??? Would ever so much appreciate it. This is my first break finding out my great grandfather was born in Addison County!! This article references my family. thanks to any kind soul who can help..... Patti

And just for the record, you can't always trust the head stones either. I found records for my ggrandfather in the Library of the town where he died that gave his death date as 1946. I knew that was wrong because I remember visiting him when I was a child, and I hadn't been born yet in 1946. I went to the cemetery and found his stone....the death date was 1946. I finally found his obituary. He died in 1956. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Leidy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:13 PM Subject: [VTADDISO] Vermont vitals- as they say, use with care > I've always tried to follow the advice I've heard repeatedly of using the > centralized Vermont vital records with caution- using them as clues for > further research rather than as final proof. Having just returned from > Vermont I have an example to help encourage others to exercise caution in > using such records. > As you are probably aware, the centralized Vermont vital records are > copies that the state requested to have sent to them a number of years ago- > the originals are to be found in the towns themselves. I was researching in > the town of Barre and using Barre's indexed cards- themselves transcribed > from original records. I was looking for early information on the Nichols > family (pre-1850). I found several cards with data on the family that I was > researching, the family of Reuben Nichols. These records were all > transcribed, it turned out, from grave markers in the Elmwood Cemetery in > Barre- transcribed in 1919. Some of the markers can no longer be read, so > in some cases this may be the only record of a particular person's dates. > There were three cards that were of particular help to me. I took down > the information from the cards, and then on a whim decided to go find the > cemetery in question and see what more I could learn about the family. I > was fortunate to locate the graves of this particular family rather quickly, > but was greatly surprised to find that ALL there of the records I'd jotted > down from the transcription cards on file were transcribed incorrectly! > These records are the ones that most people will get when going either to > the city of Barre or the centralized Vermont vital records. What were the > nature of the errors? On one the card gave a death date of 1854 for > Reuben's wife Betsey, listing her as the wife of Reuben. The stone showed > that this Betsey was his daughter, not his wife. There was an index card > with the record of his wife's death, but the card did not list her relation > to Reuben, though the stone clearly labeled her as "consort" of Reuben. > Reuben's death date was given on the index card as 1853, but the stone was > clearly 1863- which matched his age at death when compared to his birth > record. > Three out of three...all mistranscribed. It certainly gave me pause once > again and caused me to repeat to our lists the advice we hear so often- > don't trust centralized, transcribed records; make every effort to verify > with the original when possible! John Leidy > > > ==== VTADDISO Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the following: > [email protected] > Put either the word, subscribe, or unsubscribe in the subject line and body of the message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I've always tried to follow the advice I've heard repeatedly of using the centralized Vermont vital records with caution- using them as clues for further research rather than as final proof. Having just returned from Vermont I have an example to help encourage others to exercise caution in using such records. As you are probably aware, the centralized Vermont vital records are copies that the state requested to have sent to them a number of years ago- the originals are to be found in the towns themselves. I was researching in the town of Barre and using Barre's indexed cards- themselves transcribed from original records. I was looking for early information on the Nichols family (pre-1850). I found several cards with data on the family that I was researching, the family of Reuben Nichols. These records were all transcribed, it turned out, from grave markers in the Elmwood Cemetery in Barre- transcribed in 1919. Some of the markers can no longer be read, so in some cases this may be the only record of a particular person's dates. There were three cards that were of particular help to me. I took down the information from the cards, and then on a whim decided to go find the cemetery in question and see what more I could learn about the family. I was fortunate to locate the graves of this particular family rather quickly, but was greatly surprised to find that ALL there of the records I'd jotted down from the transcription cards on file were transcribed incorrectly! These records are the ones that most people will get when going either to the city of Barre or the centralized Vermont vital records. What were the nature of the errors? On one the card gave a death date of 1854 for Reuben's wife Betsey, listing her as the wife of Reuben. The stone showed that this Betsey was his daughter, not his wife. There was an index card with the record of his wife's death, but the card did not list her relation to Reuben, though the stone clearly labeled her as "consort" of Reuben. Reuben's death date was given on the index card as 1853, but the stone was clearly 1863- which matched his age at death when compared to his birth record. Three out of three...all mistranscribed. It certainly gave me pause once again and caused me to repeat to our lists the advice we hear so often- don't trust centralized, transcribed records; make every effort to verify with the original when possible! John Leidy