This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Koehn, Voth Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBVBAEB/43.4.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The family I meant is the one you mention from the Brothers In Deed, where the Andreas Voth is 53 and the only date match is with Heinrich. I have Heinrich's date of birth from his father's journal. Has him b. 6 Jun 1867. His headstone in Oakland Cemetery, Iowa City Iowa has 1867-1942. For the GD entry on him I don't know who made the assumption that he's the Heinrich from the Vaderland. Otherwise all the details are correct for my Heinrich/Henry. As for the Susanna you found, her birthdate matches my Susie perfectly. The birthdate I have is from my dec'd uncle's research. I don't believe he was aware of the GD as he passed away in 1980. So it would be a separate source and thus most likely the same person. It says that her grandfather would be a Benjamin Koehn just like my Helena's father was a Benjamin. But her 4 brothers were supposedly born between 1854-58 according to her insurance application and her mother would have been born abt 1818. So I don't think Andreas B. Koehn (Susie's father) would be Helena's brother. Thanks for all the search ideas! Kind regards Shanan