This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBVBAEB/43.4.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No problem. I figured that the stuff from GD and the ship list would either add or clear up the issue. Too me, either helps. I'd like to share a breakthrough I had today. My ggrandfather was Heinrich Voth, came over with his grandparents and cousins Penner in 1874. They went on to Kansas apparently, but he stayed somewher "in Illinois with a Mr. Zehr" who Americanized his name to Henry Foote. When he "came of age" he went down to Kansas. I came upon this wonderful site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp I was searching for Henry Foote in the 1880 census records with his birth date given from many sources. I finally took out the birth date and got this: Henry FOOTE Household Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Information: Birth Year <1865> Birthplace PRUSS Age 15 Occupation Laborer Marital Status S <Single> Race W <White> Head of Household Christian ZEHR Relation Other Father's Birthplace PRUSS Mother's Birthplace PRUSS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Deer Creek, Tazewell, Illinois Our family has NEVER known who this Mr. Zehr was, or where in Illinois Henry Foote stayed. Now we know all that, plus that he stayed there at least 6 years. Incidently, Henry's birthdate according to family records does not match the data from the ship list NOR this census. BUT, the ship list and census DO match.