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    1. Re: [VIRGINIA-INDIAN-SURNAMES] Howard
    2. Betty Mathews
    3. They hid it because to be Indian meant persecution, hatred and general bad treatment ranging from contempt to murder. Slaves weren't free until after 1863 so Indians were treated no better than slaves were. Sorry if I sound angry but Indians today are STILL treated like crap in some states of our own country. Let alone back then. My heritage has been stolen because my people did not want to leave Virginia and go to Oklahoma, Then came and took our property even though we dressed like whites, and lived like whites, and we believed that it would not happen. But it did and thousands of Cherokees died on a forced march that began in 1938 here is a link for you. I post this so you understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears Oisyo Looksfar On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Denise McDonald <vdmcd@aol.com> wrote: > I am looking for any information regarding a George W Howard, born c > 1842, who married a woman named Lulisha, b c 1845, in Virginia. My > father has told me that they were indian, but hid that information from > others. I do not understand why they would hid it at that time, but > who knows. I cannot find any Lulishas listed... Thank you. Denise > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VIRGINIA-INDIAN-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/12/2011 10:02:19
    1. Re: [VIRGINIA-INDIAN-SURNAMES] Howard
    2. There were free slaves long before 1863 based on various reasons. It is true that to much is hidden and evn today tribes continue to keep stories among themselves. It woudl be wonderful if these stories were written and preserved for future generations. My lines are of mixed heritage as well in Virginia & most difficult to establish or find leads. There are thousands of families in Virginia that may never find the true facts about family lines resulting from indentured servants, slaves & native heritage. Many slave owners used poor people for their own selfish will & did not acknowledge or record them. They used their first name only or listed a slave with an age only etc. They also left many children in the wake of their selfish desires. You may consider how the name Lulisha is spelled and consider another spelling based on the sound. Where were they in VA? Joyce -----Original Message----- From: Betty Mathews <looksfar@gmail.com> To: virginia-indian-surnames <virginia-indian-surnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 5:06 pm Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA-INDIAN-SURNAMES] Howard They hid it because to be Indian meant persecution, hatred and general bad reatment ranging from contempt to murder. Slaves weren't free until after 863 so Indians were treated no better than slaves were. Sorry if I sound ngry but Indians today are STILL treated like crap in some states of our wn country. Let alone back then. My heritage has been stolen because my eople did not want to leave Virginia and go to Oklahoma, Then came and took ur property even though we dressed like whites, and lived like whites, and e believed that it would not happen. But it did and thousands of Cherokees ied on a forced march that began in 1938 here is a link for you. I post his so you understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears Oisyo Looksfar On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Denise McDonald <vdmcd@aol.com> wrote: > I am looking for any information regarding a George W Howard, born c 1842, who married a woman named Lulisha, b c 1845, in Virginia. My father has told me that they were indian, but hid that information from others. I do not understand why they would hid it at that time, but who knows. I cannot find any Lulishas listed... Thank you. Denise ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VIRGINIA-INDIAN-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VIRGINIA-INDIAN-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    03/13/2011 04:31:22