This is one of a weekly series of articles titled "Secrets in the Dirt" appearing on Tuesdays in the Daily Press - Don't forget that a Throckmorton was among the original Jamestown Company. -------------------- A new understanding -------------------- Jamestown archaeologists gain insight into the first permanent English settlement BY MARK ST. JOHN ERICKSON 757-247-4783 [email protected] October 4 2005 Bill Kelso stands on an embankment high above the earth, surveying an ancient landscape pockmarked by hundreds of centuries-old archaeological features. Postholes and trash pits dating from English America's earliest days dot much of what he sees, then disappear under a long line of brick hearths and cobblestone footings constructed just a few years later. Other evidence from the 1620s, 1640s and even the second half of the 1600s cuts across these earlier remains, resulting in a tangled hodgepodge of soil stains and architectural debris that spans one of the most fabled chapters in American history. But as confusing as this jumbled expanse of clay may seem to most people's eyes, it's full of revelations for Kelso and his Jamestown Rediscovery colleagues. They've labored for more than two years to decipher the secrets hidden in the dirt, and - as the 2005 season of fieldwork nears its end - the rich story they've pulled from the earth has only grown deeper and more vivid. Rough, burrowlike holes mark the primitive dwellings where many of the earliest settlers lived from 1607 to 1610, barely protected from the elements by lean-tos made of canvas. Two cobblestone rectangles preserve the footprint of the 21/2-story row houses that rose from the same spot at the end of this time, signaling not just a dramatic change in the struggling colony's landscape but also a crucial new commitment to its permanence. "We're not just looking for archaeological features here. We're not just looking for artifacts. We're really trying to communicate with the way that these people thought and lived," Kelso says. "What we've found is a whole new pattern of change that we hadn't thought of before. They changed their attitude toward the colony over time - and they really adapted to the reality they found in Virginia." Sponsored by APVA Preservation Virginia, which has protected this 22.5-acre site on Jamestown Island since 1893, Kelso and his team began searching for remains of the long-lost fort in 1994. They quickly unearthed so much evidence that - in just over two years - they could trace the south bulwark and waterfront wall of the historic English outpost, which most historians believed had washed into the James River nearly two centuries before. But not until they found the west palisade wall in late 2003 - and began investigating the deep deposit of archaeological features buried under the mounds of a Civil War earthwork - did the complex nature of the site become apparent. Where much of the southeastern part of the fort had been scraped down over time - leaving only the earliest remains intact - the west section of the bastion survived mostly untouched beneath the Confederate army's 10-foot-high ramparts. And as the archaeologists probed through its puzzlelike maze of features, they discovered a time capsule so fertile and broad that it not only preserved evidence of the settlement's first days but also its evolution over the years. In the beginning, James Fort was just that, Kelso says, - an isolated military outpost guarding England's fragile toehold on an often hostile frontier. Its armored inhabitants lived in mud-and-stud huts and canvas-covered holes in the ground, sending back tales of a life so harsh that modern historians often have been reluctant to believe it. "We thought they were exaggerating before we saw the evidence in the ground," Kelso says. "But - clearly - they were living on the edge. No wonder there were so many deaths." Grim evidence of those hardships has emerged from the clay not far from the colonists' dens. More than two dozen sets of skeletal remains have been found in grave shafts not much smaller than the holes that mark their primitive dwellings. But after the colony's near collapse during the Starving Time of 1609-10, the timely arrival of a relief expedition with supplies and reinforcements turned the fortunes of the settlement around. Literally "cleansing" James Fort of many of its original features, Sir Thomas Gates resurrected the teetering frontier outpost, transforming its landscape through the construction of two large permanent buildings that resembled London row houses. Measuring nearly 175 feet long in all, the structures spanned nearly the entire length of the fort's west wall, providing dwelling and office space for the governor and his officers. Combined with three large storehouses, whose remains have not yet been found, the new, more urban setting changed the tone of the settlers' letters, too, prompting several surviving reports that describe the growing "town" with approval. "We didn't know what to think about Ralph Hamor's description until we saw the evidence materializing in the ground," Kelso says, referring to one of the letters. "But there it is. You can see the foundations of the buildings he saw. And when he was writing in 1611, things at Jamestown looked pretty good." So much evidence of the governor's residence has survived that - after studying the remains of a large 1617 addition - staff archaeologist Danny Schmidt was able to determine the width and pattern of the building's floorboards. Senior staff archaeologist Jamie May had to revise her detailed maps of the excavation's progress for much the same reason. Confronted with a wealth of evidence, she now divides the archaeological features into two distinct periods where before there had been just one. "We've got too much going on in the fort period - and that's good. It's really exciting for us," May says. "Now we can divide up and partition out the different features over a longer period of time - and that's giving us a much fuller picture of what happened here." The artifact record has grown in size and complexity, too, enabling curator Bly Straube to detect numerous patterns in the life of the colonists as the settlement developed. Sifting through a horde of evidence that now includes nearly 1 million objects, she sees far more signs of women in the later contexts, which have given up such telltale clues of the female hand as milkpans and needlework scissors. Wealth and social status become more pronounced over time as well, as seen in the gradual emergence of such then-costly architectural features as window glass, door locks and decorative tiles. "We've always found high-status things. But in the earlier contexts you're always kind of surprised because they're associated with some pretty crude structures," she says. "As it gets later, the structures get more sophisticated - and the number of high-status artifacts grows - reflecting the move from James Fort to Jamestown." Other patterns have become apparent, too, particularly regarding the fort's unexpectedly strong roots in the pre-Enlightenment culture of the Elizabethan era. Though the colonists defended themselves with guns and gunpowder, they still wore swords, helmets and medieval-looking armor. They also used counting tokens known as jettons to make mathematical calculations because of their cumbersome reliance on Roman instead of Arabic numerals. As time passed, however, that old way of life changed quickly. And despite Jamestown's distance from the rest of the western world, the colonists here adopted new technological and cultural developments almost as soon as they appeared in Europe - then left tantalizing signs of those shifts in the artifacts they discarded. "Scientific things are just starting to happen. The telescope was invented in 1609 and showed up here not long afterwards," Straube says. "So it's a very interesting period in terms of the artifacts." With roughly half of the original fort remaining to be dug, many more discoveries are expected. Kelso and his team are particularly keen on exploring a deeply buried feature that was found under a 1617 hearth - and which could be one of the fort's first wells. Other secrets lie hidden in the huge cache of artifacts, which has grown so quickly over the past two years that Straube and her colleagues have not had much time to study many of the objects. "Jamestown is the black hole of America's history. It was the beginning, but up until now it was lost," she says. "That makes everything we can find out important." Copyright (c) 2005, Daily Press

Hello Everyone, MY BRICKWALL IS SOCIA HAMON My Baker's Richard Baker and Mary Polly Mullins Richard Baker and Abigail Beverly Cornelius Baker and Socia Hamons Samuel Baker and Frances J. Spears John Baker and Frances Vanover Flora Jane Baker and John Willis Reed (my grandparents) My brickwall is Sarah/Socia/Sotia Hamons born 1826 in Scott County, VA. married Cornelius "Hick" Baker in Letcher County, KY in 1848, by Abram Cantrell. Absalom Hammons and Absalom Hammons ,Jr.. are in 1820 Scott County ,VA. Census. I was wondering if Socia could be the daughter of Absalom, Jr.. . Russell County Virginia 1850 # 1529 Eastep Joseph 36 Scott County,VA 1529 Eastep Elisabeth HAMMONS 24 Scott d/Absalom & Elizabeth Hammons # 1559 Baker Cornelius 24 Russ. s/Richard Baker & Abigail Beverly 1559 Baker Lucia HAMMONS 20 Scott Lucia should be Socia/Sotia/Sarah . On marriage license it looks like Laska no wonder I am having so much trouble. I found Sarah Hamon when we were in Whitesburg,Ky. in the marriage index. The license wasn't on file. I have Socia's birth as Aug. 1826 ,Scott County,VA I wonder if Socia and Elizabeth aren't sisters, age is right, county is same. -------------------------------------------------------- Absalom Hammond Jr.. has 2 girls in that age. bracket 1820 Scott County Virginia Census Hammons, Absolam Jr. - 100010-20010 Hammons, Absolam Sr. - 000001-00201 Revolutionary War Pensioners of Scott County, Virginia Absalom Hamonds age 86 in 1840 (living with Sarah Hamonds) Cornelius's son Samuel "Sam" Baker b. Jan 1849 in VA married Frances J. Spears. #2 wife Martha A. Vance b. Mar 1862. Children : Samuel's son John W. Baker married Frankie Vanover daughter of John R. Vanover and Virginia "Jane" Mullins d/o Booker Mullins and Nancy Potter Booker Mullins s/o Sherwood Mullins and Mary Roberts s/o Old Booker Mullins . 1900 DICKENSON COUNTY VA CENSUS BAKER Samuel W b. Jan 1849 ,51 b. VA, farmer Martha A. (Vance) W b. Mar 1862, 38, b. Va. George W. 14, Socia J. 8, Nancy M. 4, Socia ( mother ), b. Aug 1826, age 73, Widow, b. Va. , Cordelia (niece ) 21, b. Ky. Samuel Baker married for the third time to Lucy Cox Baker May 04, 1908 in Wise County, Va. Samuel and Frances Spear's son John W. Baker m. Frankie Vanover . daughter of Virginia Jane Mullins and John Vanover Virginia Jane Mullins was daughter of Booker and Nancy Potter Mullins granddaughter of Sherwood and Mary Polly Roberts MULLINS. John and Frankie Vanover BAKER had daughter Flora Jane Baker that married John Willis Reed, my grandparents. Thank you Louise Vanover

Is there an expert out there who can help me identify a "relic" of a building sitting in front of an ancestral house in Rockbridge Co.? I'd like to know what its original purpose was and when it, and the house, was built. Could send photos e-mail Joanne --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

I'm looking for any and all info regarding my McElvy/McElvey family. Specifically, I'm looking for the parents, birth place and marriage of my g-g-g-grandfather. William McElvy was born 1778, married Barbary Reeves in 1779 and died in Decatur co, GA in 1842. I have him in Burke Co, GA in 1802, then in Tattnall Co, GA in 1820 and then in Decatur Co, GA in 1821. In a letter written by him, he states that his parents were of European origin and died during the revolution leaving him with out guardian. It is assumed that he is referring to the American Revolution. This family may be from Scotland or Ireland. I'm also looking for any info on this family from 1802 forward. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Liz Gerlits Palm Bay, FL

Kemphis is found in the 1920 Census for Portsmouth, Norfolk Co., VA as follows: SPEAR, Kemphis 30 Born in Oh Mail Carrier at the Post Office 901 Fourth Street / Dwelling #14 / Family #15 This census was taken 10 Jan 1920 by Alfred Brawer, Numerator. He marreid Ethel Louise Marchant June 21, 1922 in Matthews Co., VA Marriage Records - Reel 30 Library of Virginia Marriages , Mathews Co. 1854-1935 Kempis is listed as Widowed / Residence Elizabeth City, NC By 1930 I am unable to find him....can anyone help me? thanks.... Susan Spear Ingram

Hi all, This obituary is from "The Richmond Dispatch," Richmond, Va., Thursday, July 30, 1885 issue, page 2. It was under the Petersburg column in column 2 of the page. "Mr.Alexander Aldridge, a native of Virginia,and for many years a wealthy landholder of Surry county, died last evening at Burkeville. Mr. Aldridge was the uncle of Messrs. Charles and John Q. Jackson, of this city. For the past several years he had been residing here. His death was sudden and unexpected. He was seventy years old. His remains arrived here to-day over the Norfolk and Western railroad, and were interred in Blandford cemetery." I am not related, just thought it may be helpful to someone. God bless, Beth [email protected]

I am looking for M.W. Roberts born around 1805 in Virginia. On the census records of 1850 and 1860, he is in Florida married to Mary. His occupation was a wheelwright. This is all I have. thanks, Kathy Thompson [email protected]

A. I am looking for information on Abel Ashby and a possible father, James Ashby (See Below): B. This is the information that I found at one point and it is NOT verified and seems questionable. (See information in quotes immediately below): "ABEL ASHBY was born October 09, 1787 in Ft. Ashby, Maryland, and died May 09, 1846 in Warren Township, Ohio. He married HARRIET CONOWAY ASHBY November 28, 1811 in Steubenville, Ohio, daughter of GEORGE HAMMOND and DEBORAH HUTTON. (I have a suspicion that Harriet is the daughter of Charles Conaway, I am assuming that the Hammond reference was an error.) She was born 1790 in Maryland, and died October 03, 1854 in Wells Township, Ohio." C. I have recently come across the information below (in quotes): "Also, info from the MD Genealogical Society Bulletin: An August 1970 query --- "Ashby, Abel, b Winchester VA 10 Sep 1787 lived Steubenville OH. Believe his father to be James Ashby of Eastern Maryland." " D. I am posting on various groups in both Maryland and Virginia. I would appreciate any help. Thank you, John Ashby, Manawa, WI Originally from Youngstown, OH

Hi, I am looking for my ggreatgrandparents, Mary Jane Terry. My greatgrandmother was Martha Elizabeth Miller, I am looking for her parents. Her parents were Mary Jane Terry and Jesse Henderson Miller. I got Martha's death certificate and it stated her parents. Martha married John N. Cathey in MS. I am looking for Mary Terry's parents.Mary was born in 1839 in either MS or TN(two census' 1860 says MS, 1870 says TN).She married Jesse Miller in Dec. 1855 in DeSoto Cty, MS. They had at least 5 children(1870 census of MS). I found Mary J. Terry on a Mississippi census for DeSoto County in 1850: John Terry 42 M Virginia Mary Terry 42 F Tennessee Martha A. 22 F Tennessee James 19 M Tennessee John Jr. 16 M Tennessee Mary J 12 F Miss. (my ggreatgrandmother) Malisa? 9 F Tennessee Rebecca E. 7 F Tennessee William M 2 M Miss. (M stands for Monroe) David Dickey 37 M Maine Carpenter. I believe that John Terry is her father, the right birth date, married in that county and living near the Millers.I also found John Terry on an 1840 MS DeSoto Cty. census and on a 1860 census, though only James, Rebecca and Monroe(William) and Martha House(I think this is Martha A back at home, but maybe not) still living at home with John and Mary Terry. There are lots of Terry's living in Virginia and lots of John Terrys', I am very confused. Though at one time he had to of lived in Tenn.If you can help sort this out I would greatly appreaciate it. Any information on the Terrys would really help me. Thank you so much for your time and trouble,Carol [email protected] _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

This is a correction on the address in the article. Please use these addresses. instead of the ones in the article: http://www.LaredoHams.com You will find a lot of disaster information. The correct email is: [email protected] Please forward to any list or person who you sent the information to. The local news put the wrong address in the original article. Thank you so much. Glenna km5tq ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:50 PM Subject: [VIRGINIA] OFF TOPIC... Ham Operators Involved in Katrina Relief Efforts. > > Sorry if this is off topic, but, I really think it a valuable service that can help our "cousins" in the ravaged areas. > > As an Amateur Radio Operator,I have been tracking the activities of the ham community in order to see how they are helping with the Katrina relief efforts. > > This is some information I have come across on the Internet that can be of help to all of those looking for loved ones who were in the Hurricane. > > "WELL THEY HELPED TRACK FAMILIES DURING 9-11. > AND NOW THEY HOPE TO TRACK FAMILIES AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA. > TWO LOCAL HAM RADIO OPERATORS ARE PART OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SKYWARN AND REPORT WEATHER CONDITIONS TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. > RIGHT NOW THEY'RE USING THEIR RADIOS TO HELP HURRICANE VICTIMS FIND LOVED ONES. > IF YOU NEED HELP SEARCHING FOR A FAMILY MEMBER, THE HAM OPERATORS ASK THAT YOU E-MAIL THE NAME, ADDRESS, AND AREA FAMILY MEMBER WERE LAST SEEN. > THAT E-MAIL ADDRESS IS [email protected] > THEY ALSO ADVISE YOU TO CALL THE SALVATION ARMY FOR HELP AT 1-847-709-6700. > OR LOG ONTO THE WEB SITE AT WWW.SATERN.ORG. " > > ]Please pass this message on. > > > God Bless all survivors!! > > Glenna Davidson KM5TQ.......proud to be a part of the ham radio community!! > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > > ==== VIRGINIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list send a message > with only "unsubscribe" in the body to: > [email protected] (for list mode) > [email protected] (for digest mode) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Sorry if this is off topic, but, I really think it a valuable service that can help our "cousins" in the ravaged areas. As an Amateur Radio Operator,I have been tracking the activities of the ham community in order to see how they are helping with the Katrina relief efforts. This is some information I have come across on the Internet that can be of help to all of those looking for loved ones who were in the Hurricane. "WELL THEY HELPED TRACK FAMILIES DURING 9-11. AND NOW THEY HOPE TO TRACK FAMILIES AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA. TWO LOCAL HAM RADIO OPERATORS ARE PART OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SKYWARN AND REPORT WEATHER CONDITIONS TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE USING THEIR RADIOS TO HELP HURRICANE VICTIMS FIND LOVED ONES. IF YOU NEED HELP SEARCHING FOR A FAMILY MEMBER, THE HAM OPERATORS ASK THAT YOU E-MAIL THE NAME, ADDRESS, AND AREA FAMILY MEMBER WERE LAST SEEN. THAT E-MAIL ADDRESS IS [email protected] THEY ALSO ADVISE YOU TO CALL THE SALVATION ARMY FOR HELP AT 1-847-709-6700. OR LOG ONTO THE WEB SITE AT WWW.SATERN.ORG. " ]Please pass this message on. God Bless all survivors!! Glenna Davidson KM5TQ.......proud to be a part of the ham radio community!! [email protected] [email protected]

When I sent my initial message a couple weeks ago, entitled "SORRELL/GRIGSBY/MURRAY/WINDSOR/GEYER/RHODES - In DC & VA", I was hoping that one of Ethelene Pearle (nee Grigsby) WINDSOR's descendents might read it and respond. Pearle was married to Lemuel Henry WINDSOR (born ~ 1892); he was my Grandfather's first cousin. Pearle and Lemuel lived for many years with Pearle's Father-in-Law (John Henry WINDSOR) as his wife died long before he did. During part of this time, they lived at 145 E St., S.E. (Pearle's Husband's Grandfather died across the street from 145 E St., S.E., at 136.). Pearle died on June 15, 1967, at her residence at 6922 33rd St., N.W.; Washington, DC. Since Pearle lived with her husband's Father and was with the family for so many years and during their latter times, I was hoping that someone in her family may have our Windsor Family Bible or some other information or photographs. Since my Windsor relatives who lived near Pearle in DC were all males (who don't normally appreciate or gather family information as much as us females do), I was hoping that maybe Pearle had collected and saved some Windsor family information. My descendents from this Windsor family never knew, or passed down, anything about their family. Our families at least once a year (so we had been told by my Grandfather) had a family gathering and, of course when there was a funeral or such. This was not often enough for my Mom (whose maiden name is Windsor) to know or ask anything about the family, plus some of the family had passed away before she was born or when she was a young child. I have photos of young Pearle; the caption reads: E. Pearle Windsor, President 1929-30. And a photo of her husband; caption reads: Lemuel H. Windsor, Grand Master. I know that many in the WINDSOR family were members of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows in the District of Columbia. As stated in his obituary, young Henry Grigsby WINDSOR was Chief Ruler of the National Capitol Junior Lodge of Odd Fellows. He attended McKinley High School student. Three generations of these WINDSOR's worked at the Navy Yard in Washington DC as did some of the other family members. Lemuel, Pearle's husband, retired with 47 years with the Federal Government at the Navy Yard. Again, I have just been trying to "throw out" tidbits of family information in hopes that someone may still be living who can provide a link of valuable information to my family. I feel if any of Pearle's sisters or other descendents were still living when she passed away that they would have collected/fallen heir to her possessions. I would greatly appreciate anything you can contribute to this family mystery ... Thank you, Betty ---------- P.S. As is said in my previous message: I have photos which I took of a LARGE monument in Congressional Cemetery (in DC) that has the following names on it: 1st Side - E. Pearle (Grigsby) WINDSOR; her husband, Lemuel Henry WINDSOR; and their son, Henry Grigsby WINDSOR. 2nd Side - R. H. SORRELL; Mary E. SORRELL; and, Emma J. MURRAY*. 3rd Side - GRIGSBY ... Milton T.; Richard S.; A. Mae (according to age listed in the 1900 census, this is Pearle's sister ... listed as Annie M.); Annie E. (according to year born, this is Pearle's Mother). I have a copy of the newspaper article describing the auto crash in which young Henry Grigsby WINDSOR died. This article states that he was killed in a car accident in the vicinity of Colonial Beach, Virginia; that he was staying with his family at their summer place near Fredericksburg. The article also mentions that Henry's cousin, Miss Joan GEYER, of West Point, Virginia, was killed. Pearle's sister, Emma, married a Geyer. So I expect that it was Emma's daughter, Joan, who was also killed in this crash. Upon reading this article again, I see that young Miss Geyer was a survivor of this crash. Sorry! I have the information from Pearl's obituary which named her sisters, Mabel E. GEYER and Emma L. RHODES. She passed away on June 15, 1967, at her home in Washington, DC. I also have a copy of the 1900 DC Census showing GRIGSBY, Annie E.*, Head, Widowed, born in Virginia; her four daughters ... Pearle (married name WINDSOR), 14; Mabel E. (married name GEYER), 12; Annie M. (from picture of gravestone, it appears that she died 2 years after this census at age 12), 10; and, Emma L. (married name RHODES), 8. All four daughters were born in DC. (This census showed two SORRELL and one GRIGSBY families all on this one page, meaning that they lived very close to each other.) *I believe that MURRAY was Pearle's Mother's maiden name (Annie E. MURRAY GRIGSBY).

If you are descended from any of the following, please contact <mailto:[email protected]>me. Ethlene Pearle Grigsby WINDSOR married into my Mother's family. I have pictures of Pearle, her husband, and her father-in-law. If you are interested in these, let me know and I'll attach them to a message. I also have a copy of the 1900 DC Census showing GRIGSBY, Annie E.*, Head, Widowed, born in Virginia; her four daughters ... Pearle (married name WINDSOR), 14; Mabel E. (married name GEYER), 12; Annie M. (from picture of gravestone, it appears that she died 2 years after this census at age 12), 10; and, Emma L. (married name RHODES), 8. All four daughters were born in DC. (This census showed two SORRELL and one GRIGSBY families all on this one page, meaning that they lived very close to each other.) I have photos which I took of a LARGE monument in Congressional Cemetery (in DC) that has the following names on it: 1st Side - E. Pearle (Grigsby) WINDSOR; her husband, Lemuel Henry WINDSOR; and their son, Henry Grigsby WINDSOR. 2nd Side - R. H. SORRELL; Mary E. SORRELL; and, Emma J. MURRAY*. 3rd Side - GRIGSBY ... Milton T.; Richard S.; A. Mae (according to age listed in the 1900 census, this is Pearle's sister ... listed as Annie M.); Annie E. (according to year born, this is Pearle's Mother). I have a copy of the newspaper article describing the auto crash in which young Henry Grigsby WINDSOR died. This article states that he was killed in a car accident in the vicinity of Colonial Beach, Virginia; that he was staying with his family at their summer place near Fredericksburg. The article also mentions that Henry's cousin, Miss Joan GEYER, of West Point, Virginia, was killed. Pearle's sister, Emma, married a Geyer. So I expect that it was Emma's daughter, Joan, who was also killed in this crash. I have the information from Pearl's obituary which named her sisters, Mabel E. GEYER and Emma L. RHODES. She passed away on June 15, 1967, at her home in Washington, DC. If you would like an e-mail with any of the articles I have mentioned or photos, please let me know. I would greatly appreciate any information you may have on any of these persons. Betty *I believe that MURRAY was Pearle's Mother's maiden name (Annie E. MURRAY GRIGSBY).

FINDING YOUR MILITARY ANCESTORS - The North Carolina Genealogical Society is sponsoring a two-day workshop conducted by William H. Brown and Craig R. Scott. The workshop will be held Friday, Nov. 11 and Saturday, Nov. 12, 2005, at Brier Creek Country Club, 9400 Club Hill Drive, Raleigh, NC. Craig Scott is an author, a professional genealogical researcher, and CEO & President of Heritage Books, Inc. Bill Brown is Governors' Papers Editor with the Historical Publications Section, NC Office of Archives & History. Previously Mr. Brown was an archivist with the North Carolina State Archives. Lectures scheduled for Friday, Nov. 11: "Researching Your Revolutionary War Ancestor" - Scott "Military Records of the American Civil War, An Introduction" - Brown "Civil War Military Records and Genealogical Research" - Brown "Researching Your War of 1812 Ancestor" - Scott Lectures scheduled for Saturday, Nov. 12: "The Development of the North Carolina Militia & Home Guard, and Effect of Confederate Conscription Laws on Military Service" - Brown "The Forgotten Wars" - Scott "Pension Research: Did You Stop Too Soon?" - Scott "Say, It Ain't Over!! An Introduction to Post-War Records with Genealogical Value for Civil War Research" - Brown A map showing the location of the workshop may be found at http://www.mapquest.com/ by plugging in the street address above.

Hello, all you experts in Virginia History!! And all you 'lurkers' who also know a good deal about it!! This lady is in my mother's family tree, and she was the wife of James DINWIDDIE, b. ca. 1787, in TN. They were married in ca. 1810, or so. In Virginia, where did the GIVENS family(ies) live, in about 1780-1800?? This was the time of the Rev. War, and much turmoil was happening!! And who were the parents of Jane and any siblings?? When did they migrate to TN, or did James come east to meet her in VA? So many 'unknown' details!! Such large blank spots on the pages of this lady's history!! Is anyone able to tell me something about her, or her family, before she became the wife of James?? I do appreciate your attention, and hope that something in these questions will 'jog' someone's memory, a bit!! Thanks for looking!! Joe DUKE ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: VIRGINIA-D Digest V05 #47

Greetings from Arizona, Lots of Givens in Botetourt and Washington Counties VA. . . but probably also in other counties. No offense intended, but must ask: How long have you been on this particular search? Is Jane Givens a "brick wall", or are you trying a shortcut? I have no problem with short-cuts, but it would help to know where you've already searched. Have you already searched the usual places, e.g. GenWeb, LVA, et al ? Also, a good google search can often provide clues. What are the names of Jane Given's chidren? Often, the oldest son was named for the paternal grandfather and the 2nd son named for the maternal grandfather. Joanne thehornguy <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, all you experts in Virginia History!! And all you 'lurkers' who also know a good deal about it!! This lady is in my mother's family tree, and she was the wife of James DINWIDDIE, b. ca. 1787, in TN. They were married in ca. 1810, or so. In Virginia, where did the GIVENS family(ies) live, in about 1780-1800?? This was the time of the Rev. War, and much turmoil was happening!! And who were the parents of Jane and any siblings?? When did they migrate to TN, or did James come east to meet her in VA? So many 'unknown' details!! Such large blank spots on the pages of this lady's history!! Is anyone able to tell me something about her, or her family, before she became the wife of James?? I do appreciate your attention, and hope that something in these questions will 'jog' someone's memory, a bit!! Thanks for looking!! Joe DUKE ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: VIRGINIA-D Digest V05 #47 ==== VIRGINIA Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the list send a message with only "unsubscribe" in the body to: [email protected] (for list mode) [email protected] (for digest mode) ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

A friend just let me know that the first 4 Volumes of Hening's Statutes are online at VAGenWeb. So far, I've found reference to two of my ancestors and I've just begun to search. "Hening's Statutes at Large, Being a Collection of all the Laws of Virginia from the first Session of the Legislature, in the Year 1619" by William Hening. http://www.vagenweb.org/hening/ Nancy, visit the family: My G-Grandfather's Attic www.geocities.com/twincousin2334

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Re my search for signatures: After a day spent doing Google searches, found Library of Congress' American Memory site at http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/index.html Using the search box in the upper right corner I entered "Botetourt" and found some early church petitions with signatures by men in Botetourt Co. Same for Rockbridge Co. Great site, but NOT the site I remember, so will keep searching. --Joanne --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page