Denise, You are more than welcome. There was much to find and too much to send through the list that is why I chose to send it personally. I am glad I could help, and I am glad I asked you to ask your question again. Sincerely, Erin T. Crowe IBSSG Let my kisses fall, Upon your starry eyes, The windows of your soul, Where all true beauty lies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] [LINDSEY] > To all good morning from Oz > > I have been sent so much help from members it is totally unbelievable. So > much I have actually not yet had time to read let alone sort it. However > today I will with William Lindsey's great-granddaughter. I gave her one > piece last night and the email I got back was one of surprise and > happiness. It just put her in touch with her ancestors so easily. I know > the feeling of finding information on my ggf from Massachusetts and > subsequent visits there and relations to us in Australia. Your roots are > finally planted. > > So, folks, thank you so very much for your assistance. If I have missed > anyone in a private thank you please accept my apologies. I will return > when I have constructed an outline for your readers who may be interested > on William Lindsey in Australia. And no doubt I will find more from > Virginia. > > It is a great list, be proud > > regards > Denise > >> I would say you are on the right track. Rolland was not that common of >> name in those times also the other's you named either. >> Maxine >> [email protected] > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I composed a nice reply to this post for the members' interest. I shall attempt again as I lost it after my computer closed down.. I hope the members will bear with me while I explain a few things. It may not be specific at the moment entirely to Va, but we have a way to go and I could be back with information on old inhabitants.. Thanks Erin, I actually managed to do a bit of surfing between reading all the members' lovely emails this afternoon and found this one link you sent me. I am researching William Lindsey helping his great-granddaughter in Australia. I am also with another, researching the lives of Americans and Canadians who came to northeast Victoria Australia in the gold rush era of the 1850s+. We have 300 names, have finished about 100. We track them from birth, try for details on family, education, siblings parents in North America. We follow them to Australia. We follow them to their deaths, wherever. Back in US, Canada, or wherever they may else have gone to (two instances in a Victorian jail).. Erin mentioned Maine and Kennebec. We have 3 dozen from Somerset Co Maine and Kennebec. Most came together, stuck together and 6 friends died within 5 weeks and are buried in one small cemetery, together. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find William came with someone, it happens all the time in our research. He lived in a part of the Northeast of Victoria where there were many Americans - several yet we haven't done work on. One of our subjects went back to the US, and to Virginia to farm. I shall have to dig his name out and hopefully someone may connect to his family. Happy to share what we have. Excuse me for explaining all this but we are both so passionate about our quest to put these forgotten men into the history books of the northeast of Victoria - they helped develop what was a raw and strange land to them, they came to only Kangaroos, Koalas, Kookaburras and Gumtrees and millions of tents dotting the mullock heaps. thank you all, I'm delighted to have received so much help from you. I'm going to send the information to the great-granddaughter and make her day! We often work with descendants we find, giving them everything we have on their ancestors - we have access to data many don't. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin T. Crowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA

I have found Arvilla nee Lindsey on World Connect - a name which was used in the family here in Australia. Mother Phoebe Russell (right surname, the Christian name I couldn't read on the certificate) Father Rolland , not Robert (again, could be poor penmanship and faded ink on the marriage certificate from the 1850s) Now I only have to connect back to the parents to find siblings of Arvilla, on some other site as it is not on WC. Arvilla was in Illinois. I thank you all for your help. If we find it goes back to or started in Virginia, we shall let you know our findings in case someone connects. The name Rolland does for a start. regards and again sincere thanks Denise Australia Subject: [VIRGINIA] question on VA [LINDSEY] > Thinking to check the children's names of this William Lindsey I find an > unusual one > > Arviller > and another is named > William Roland > > Would it be wonderful to be on the right track! >

Thinking to check the children's names of this William Lindsey I find an unusual one Arviller and another is named William Roland Would it be wonderful to be on the right track! You have given me some hope here. I am working with his great-granddaughter trying to find her ancestors, so shall pass along all the great information which has landed in my Inbox today, thank you all - I'll try various sites and see if I can turn up Arviller. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA [LINDSEY] > To: > CC: > BCC: > Subject:RE: [VIRGINIA] > > Denise, > > A "ROWLAND B. LINDSEY was residing in Mason County, Virgina in 1820 and in > 1830. There seem to be no longer anY LINDSEY [any spelling] residing in > Mason County, VA by 1840. I did not check the 1850 US Census other than to > check on the number of pages. I am not in a position to an advatace. > 1850. > I hope this is of help to you. > > The 1790, 1800, 1810, 1820, 1830 and 1840 US Census showed only the name > of > the head of household. Other members of the household were not named. They > were just enumerated. > > The names of the head of household on the 1790, 1800, 1810, and 1820 US > Census records are indexed and those census records are searchable, > however > the 1830 [74 images], 1840 [66 images], and 1850 [165 images] US Census > Records are not yet indexed, so must be browsed image by image using > HeritageQuest Online, which is my source for those census records. > > Below is the information I found of the 1820 and 1830 Census concerning > the > family of ROWLAND B. LINDSEY: > > 1820 US CENSUS > No Township listed, Mason County, Virginia > Series: M33 Roll: 138 Page: 13 > LINDSEY, Rowland B. > /1/0/0/0/2/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/1/1/ > > 1820 FEDERAL CENSUS HEADINGS > > Name of the County, Parish, Township, Town or City, where the Family > resides: > MASON COUNTY, VIRGINIA > > Names of Heads of Families: > ROWLAND B. LINDSEY > > FREE WHITE MALES: > Free white males under ten years = 1 > Free white males of ten and under sixteen = 0 > Free white males between sixteen and eighteen = 0 > Free white males of sixteen and under twenty-six = 0 > Free white males of twenty-six and under forty-five = 2 > Free white males of forty-five and upwards = 0 > > FREE WHITE FEMALES: > Free white females under ten years = 0 > Free white females of ten and under sixteen = O > Free white females of sixteen and under twenty-six = 1 > Free white females of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 > Free white females of forty-five and upwards = 0 > > Foreigners not naturalized = 0 > > Number of persons engaged in Agriculture = 1 > Number of persons engaged in Commerce = 1 > Number of persons engaged in Manufactures = 0 > > Slaves: > Males: > Males under fourteen = 0 > Males of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 > Males of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 > Males of forty-five and upwards = 0 > Females: > Females under fourteen = 0 > Females of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 > Females of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 > Females of forty-five and upwards = 0 > > Free Colored Persons: > Males: > Males under fourteen = 0 > Males of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 > Males of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 > Males of forty-five and upwards = 0 > Females: > Females under fourteen = 0 > Females of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 > Females of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 > Females of forty-five and upwards = 0 > > All other persons except Indians not taxed = 0 > > > 1830 US CENSUS > No township listed, Mason County, Virginia > Series: M19 Roll: 198 Page: 151 > LINDSEY, Rowland B. > /1/3/0/0/0/2/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/0/0/0/ > > 1830 FEDERAL CENSUS HEADINGS > > Name of County, City, Ward, Town, Township, Parish, Precinct, Hundred, or > District. > MASON COUNTY, VIRGINIA > > Name of Head of Family. > ROWLAND B. LINDSEY > > FREE WHITE PERSONS (INCLUDING HEADS OF FAMILIES.) > MALES. > Under five years of age = 1 > Of five and under ten = 3 > Of ten and under fifteen = 0 > Of fifteen and under twenty = 0 > Of twenty and under thirty = 0 > Of thirty and under forty = 2 > Of forty and under fifty = 0 > Of fifty and under sixty = 0 > Of sixty and under seventy = 0 > Of seventy and under eighty = 0 > Of eighty and under ninety = 0 > Of ninety and under one hundred = 0 > Of one hundred and upwards = 0 > FEMALES. > Under five years of age = 1 > Of five and under ten = 0 > Of ten and under fifteen = 0 > Of fifteen and under twenty = 0 > Of twenty and under thirty = 0 > Of thirty and under forty = 1 > Of forty and under fifty = 0 > Of fifty and under sixty = 0 > Of sixty and under seventy = 0 > Of seventy and under eighty = 0 > Of eighty and under ninety = 0 > Of ninety and under one hundred = 0 > Of one hundred and upwards = 0 > > Source of 1820 Census Headings: > SK Publications: http://www.skpub.com/genie/headings/1820.html > > Souce of Census Records: > HeritageQuest Online: http://www.heritagequestonline.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA > > > Thank you Erin. > I got a reply also from someone who suggested my original question was not > clear enough. In that case I try again... > > I am looking for the family and birthplace of a man who came to Australia > in the gold rush years of 1850. Now being wary of treading on any > listowners toes I perhaps did not express myself clearly in the first > email. > For that, if it was so, I apologise. > > This man William LindsEy claimed in various birth death Obituary marriage > documents in Australia to have come from - > > 1. Virginia United States > 2. Mason C > 3. Minois - this has been used a couple of times in different sources. > > and on his death certificate the informant (not the deceased of course ) > said > 4. Illinois America. > > His father's name was Robert LindsEy and the mother - her name is hard to > read but Punbr? formerly Russell. > Since posting my first email I requested a look up from SKS for a census > in > Minois Mason County Virginia and the reply was that this man did not > appear > there. > > In order to go further in our research we are trying to establish just > where > he did come from, Virginia, Mason C, Minois or Illinois. The first thing > to > find was if Minois was a town, Mason C perhaps County, and which state, > Virginia or Illinois. Because the Illinois came from information the man > himself could not have provided (death certificate) I started with this > list, the most obvious. > > to me Minois looks a bit like Illinois, hence my concern about stepping on > toes. So the aim is to eliminate one of these states, and we started > with > Virginia. > > Thanks everyone > Denise > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello list, I found that there is a will and inventory list for a Thomas EAVES in Brunswick Co., Virginia in 1785. I have the Volume and Page number in the "Wills, Inventories and Accounts (1737-1801). Does anyone know how I can go about getting a copy of these? Thank you. Ellen Eaves Anderson [email protected] San Antonio, Texas

I would say you are on the right track. Rolland was not that common of name in those times also the other's you named either. Maxine [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: [VIRGINIA] [LINDSEY] >I have found Arvilla nee Lindsey on World Connect - a name which was used >in the family here in Australia. > > Mother Phoebe Russell (right surname, the Christian name I couldn't read > on the certificate) > Father Rolland , not Robert (again, could be poor penmanship and faded ink > on the marriage certificate from the 1850s) > Now I only have to connect back to the parents to find siblings of > Arvilla, on some other site as it is not on WC. > Arvilla was in Illinois. > > I thank you all for your help. If we find it goes back to or started in > Virginia, we shall let you know our findings in case someone connects. The > name Rolland does for a start. > > regards and again sincere thanks > Denise > Australia > > > Subject: [VIRGINIA] question on VA [LINDSEY] > > >> Thinking to check the children's names of this William Lindsey I find an >> unusual one >> >> Arviller >> and another is named >> William Roland >> >> Would it be wonderful to be on the right track! >> > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Thank you Erin. I got a reply also from someone who suggested my original question was not clear enough. In that case I try again... I am looking for the family and birthplace of a man who came to Australia in the gold rush years of 1850. Now being wary of treading on any listowners toes I perhaps did not express myself clearly in the first email. For that, if it was so, I apologise. This man William LindsEy claimed in various birth death Obituary marriage documents in Australia to have come from - 1. Virginia United States 2. Mason C 3. Minois - this has been used a couple of times in different sources. and on his death certificate the informant (not the deceased of course ) said 4. Illinois America. His father's name was Robert LindsEy and the mother - her name is hard to read but Punbr? formerly Russell. Since posting my first email I requested a look up from SKS for a census in Minois Mason County Virginia and the reply was that this man did not appear there. In order to go further in our research we are trying to establish just where he did come from, Virginia, Mason C, Minois or Illinois. The first thing to find was if Minois was a town, Mason C perhaps County, and which state, Virginia or Illinois. Because the Illinois came from information the man himself could not have provided (death certificate) I started with this list, the most obvious. to me Minois looks a bit like Illinois, hence my concern about stepping on toes. So the aim is to eliminate one of these states, and we started with Virginia. Thanks everyone Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin T. Crowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA > Denise, > > What is your question, I will try to answer as best as possible. > > Sincerely, > > Erin T. Crowe IBSSG > Let my kisses fall, > Upon your starry eyes, > The windows of your soul, > Where all true beauty lies. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - Admin > > >>I asked a simple question on this list as a newbie a day or two ago and >>haven't seen an answer. Whilst I understand not everyone can answer a >>question about a county or a town and whether they exist in Virginia, all >>I've seen is this rubbish. >> >> Denise >> Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - >> Admin >> >> >>>I agree. Enough's enough. Where's the list manager? >>> >>> Joanne >>> >>> JACINDA ANDRE <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I thought this was about Virginia genealogy, please remove me from this >>> board. I'm trying to do genealogy and this is very distracting. >>> >>> >>> >>> Take Care, >>> Cindy >>> >>> >>> If God couldn't do it in one what makes me think I can.... >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover >>> Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thank you Debra. I understand defunct places - we have many in Australia (G). I've done some Googling and not had any luck with Virginia. However what about the County, Mason? Does it still exist in Virginia? That's ok, I'll move on. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] answering question about town. > Denise, > I was not familiar with the town you were looking for but I would like > to let you know that sometimes towns become ghost towns or change their > names. They can do this more than once two. I recently was looking for > a town which is now defunct but there are places online where you can > find even the towns that no longer exist so if no one has heard of your > town don't be discouraged just try looking for it as one being a defunct > place. > Debra > > Denise <[email protected]> wrote: I asked a simple question on this > list as a newbie a day or two ago and > haven't seen an answer. Whilst I understand not everyone can answer a > question about a county or a town and whether they exist in Virginia, all > I've seen is this rubbish. > > Denise > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Denise, I have been able to pull up quite a bit of information on the family of Rowland B. LINDSEY and his wife, Phebe, who removed from Mason County, Virginia to Knox County, Illinois. William LINDSEY, age 16, of Virginia, is shown on the 1850 US Census residing in the home of Phebe [Phebe was the widow of Rowland/Rolland/Roland B. LINDSEY] in Knox County, Illinois. 1850 US CENSUS Twp 11 N Range 2 E, Knox County, Illinois Series: M432 Roll: 113 Page: 310 August 16, 1850 DWELLING 9/ FAMILY 10 LINZY [LINDSEY], Phebe, 50, f, w, New York LINZY [LINDSEY], Mariah, 20, f, w, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Robert, 18, m, w, farmer, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], William, 16, m, w, laborer, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Ira, 14, m, w, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Sarah, 12, f, w, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Mary, 10, f, w, Virginia This shows a second marriage for PHEBE, widow of ROWLAND LINDSEY: The RAMBO FAMILY TREE by Beverly Nelson Rambo http://members.aol.com/mcemmert/rambo16.txt 31C16. REUBEN RAMBO Reuben [RAMBO] married second, in Knox Co. on 12 Aug 1851, PHEBE LINDSEY whose daughter Arvilla married his son, Abraham. Phebe was born 17 Nov 1797 in Dutchess Co., New York, and may have married her first husband, Rowland Lindsey who died in 1843, in Mason Co., Virginia on 19 Aug 1819.(730),, p. 29 by Jane Knowles Lindsey) NOTE: The above web page was difficult to read because the contents were not "text wrapped". I copied the page and pasted the contents into my word processor with text wrap and the contents were much easier to follow. 1850 US CENSUS Twp 11 N Range 1 E, Knox County, Illinois Series: M432 Roll: 113 Page: 361 September 28, 1850 DWELLING 728/FAMILY 736 RAMBO, Reuben, 57, m, w, blacksmith, Virginia RAMBO, Fanny M., 15, f, w, Ohio DWELLING 729/FAMILY 737 RAMBO, Abraham, 30, m, w, farmer, Ohio RAMBO, Arvilla [LINDSEY], 25, f, w, Virginia RAMBO, Charles E. 5, m, w, Illinois RAMBO, D. D., 3, m, w, Illinois RAMBO, Sefronia, 2, f, w, Illinois Russell Cemetery (Knox County, Illinois) http://www.iltrails.org/knox/Cemeteries/Russell_Cem_files/Russell_Cem.html Russell Cemetery is in Haw Creek Township [Knox County, Illinois] NAME BIRTH DATE DEATH DATE AGE INSCRIPTION/COMMENTS LINDSEY, Rowland B. Oct 18 1843 50 yr 10 mo 12 da RAMBO, Arvilla Nov 02 1826 Apr 11 1877 Wife of Ab'm Rambo; RAMBO, Arvilla P. Apr 11 1877 50 yr 5 mo 9 da Wife of Ab'm Rambo 2 stones for Arvilla RAMBO, Charity Jan 15 1849 52 yr 1 mo 15 da Wife of Reubin Rambo NOTE: Ruebin RAMBO married (1) Charity HAPTONSTALL. In 1851, Rueben RAMBO married (2) Phebe, widow of Rowland/Roland/Rolland B. Lindsey. ROLLAND B. LINDSEY http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=5817356 Birth: 1793 Death: 1843 Burial: Russell Cemetery Knox County Illinois, USA PHEBE LINDSEY http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=121&GScid=107799&GRid= 5817360& Birth: Nov. 17, 1797 Death: unknown Burial: Russell Cemetery Knox County Illinois, USA RUEBEN RAMBO http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=5817338 Birth: 1792 Death: 1854 Burial: Russell Cemetery Knox County Illinois, USA 1850 US CENSUS Twp 11 N Range 2 E, Knox County, Illinois Series: M432 Roll: 113 Page: 310 August 16, 1850 DWELLING 9/ FAMILY 10 LINZY [LINDSEY], Phebe, 50, f, w, New York LINZY [LINDSEY], Mariah, 20, f, w, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Robert, 18, m, w, farmer, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], William, 16, m, w, laborer, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Ira, 14, m, w, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Sarah, 12, f, w, Virginia LINZY [LINDSEY], Mary, 10, f, w, Virginia Index to Estates, Administrators, and Executors KNOX COUNTY, ILLINOIS This is a partial index list obtained from the county court house in Galesburg, Illinois. http://www.iltrails.org/knox/Wills/Wills.html -------------------------- / File Box No. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year Will /Name of /Administrator / Office/Will /Disposed Probated /Estate /or Executor / /of or Estate / Opened / -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1843 /Lindsey, Rowland B. /Howard Lindsey / Admr./ / 71 / 1844 /Lindsey, Rowland B. /Phebe Lindsey, / Admr./ / 71 / / /Samuel B. Anderson / / / / -------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the following websites, Ira LINDSEY born 1795, who married in Mason County, Virginia/West Virginia and died in Iroquois County, Illinois had a brother named Roland LINDSEY. Roland LINDSEY and Phebe named a son "Ira": Ancestors of Ethel Lois MORGAN by Patricia Dissmeyer Goff http://www.familyorigins.com/users/g/o/f/Patricia-D-Goff/FAMO1-0001/d32.htm http://www.familyorigins.com/users/g/o/f/Patricia-D-Goff/FAMO1-0001/d32.htm# P2051 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Denise; I have helped many people and if you send me a message about what you need help with I will try to answer it and if not make some suggestions for you. I don't live in Va. but have many ancestors who were and some still there. Send E mail to my email below. I know what you mean. I delete e-mails that don't have my surnames or something in the subject line I can help with. If everyone would put the surnames in subject line or place they need info or message is about, it would be a big , big plus for all Genealogy. Also change the subject line when it goes to a different subject. Hope all who read this will remember the above lines. Thanks. Maxine Researching Barnett; Brannon(an); Pumphrey; McCalls; Long; and other's in Va. and W. Va. Maxine [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected] If God couldn't do it in one what makes me think I can....

I asked a simple question on this list as a newbie a day or two ago and haven't seen an answer. Whilst I understand not everyone can answer a question about a county or a town and whether they exist in Virginia, all I've seen is this rubbish. Denise Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - Admin >I agree. Enough's enough. Where's the list manager? > > Joanne > > JACINDA ANDRE <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought this was about Virginia genealogy, please remove me from this > board. I'm trying to do genealogy and this is very distracting. > > > > Take Care, > Cindy > > > If God couldn't do it in one what makes me think I can.... > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Here were two LINDSEY estates WILL INDEX: http://www.iltrails.org/knox/Wills/WillsJ-M.html Year Will Probated or Estate Opened: 1843 Name of Estate: LINDSEY, ROWLAND B. Administrator or Executor: HOWARD LINDSEY, Admr. File Box No. Will Disposed of Office 71 1844 Lindsey, Rowland B. see above Phebe Lindsey, Samuel B. Anderson Admr. 71 Original Message: ----------------- From: Denise [email protected] Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:47:16 +1000 To: [email protected] Subject: [VIRGINIA] [LINDSEY] I have found Arvilla nee Lindsey on World Connect - a name which was used in the family here in Australia. Mother Phoebe Russell (right surname, the Christian name I couldn't read on the certificate) Father Rolland , not Robert (again, could be poor penmanship and faded ink on the marriage certificate from the 1850s) Now I only have to connect back to the parents to find siblings of Arvilla, on some other site as it is not on WC. Arvilla was in Illinois. I thank you all for your help. If we find it goes back to or started in Virginia, we shall let you know our findings in case someone connects. The name Rolland does for a start. regards and again sincere thanks Denise Australia Subject: [VIRGINIA] question on VA [LINDSEY] > Thinking to check the children's names of this William Lindsey I find an > unusual one > > Arviller > and another is named > William Roland > > Would it be wonderful to be on the right track! > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

I have a request. I have a great uncle JAMES DOWNING who possibly moved from Ontario Canada to Australia in ca. 1885. He had a daughter and a son. I have tried to get info on this man,but no luck.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA I composed a nice reply to this post for the members' interest. I shall attempt again as I lost it after my computer closed down.. I hope the members will bear with me while I explain a few things. It may not be specific at the moment entirely to Va, but we have a way to go and I could be back with information on old inhabitants.. Thanks Erin, I actually managed to do a bit of surfing between reading all the members' lovely emails this afternoon and found this one link you sent me. I am researching William Lindsey helping his great-granddaughter in Australia. I am also with another, researching the lives of Americans and Canadians who came to northeast Victoria Australia in the gold rush era of the 1850s+. We have 300 names, have finished about 100. We track them from birth, try for details on family, education, siblings parents in North America. We follow them to Australia. We follow them to their deaths, wherever. Back in US, Canada, or wherever they may else have gone to (two instances in a Victorian jail).. Erin mentioned Maine and Kennebec. We have 3 dozen from Somerset Co Maine and Kennebec. Most came together, stuck together and 6 friends died within 5 weeks and are buried in one small cemetery, together. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find William came with someone, it happens all the time in our research. He lived in a part of the Northeast of Victoria where there were many Americans - several yet we haven't done work on. One of our subjects went back to the US, and to Virginia to farm. I shall have to dig his name out and hopefully someone may connect to his family. Happy to share what we have. Excuse me for explaining all this but we are both so passionate about our quest to put these forgotten men into the history books of the northeast of Victoria - they helped develop what was a raw and strange land to them, they came to only Kangaroos, Koalas, Kookaburras and Gumtrees and millions of tents dotting the mullock heaps. thank you all, I'm delighted to have received so much help from you. I'm going to send the information to the great-granddaughter and make her day! We often work with descendants we find, giving them everything we have on their ancestors - we have access to data many don't. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin T. Crowe" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

You're right. M is often Ill or iLL with a pen with a soft nib can look like an M. In order to go further in our research we are trying to establish just > where > he did come from, Virginia, Mason C, Minois or Illinois. The first thing > to > find was if Minois was a town, Mason C perhaps County, and which state, > Virginia or Illinois. Because the Illinois came from information the man > himself could not have provided (death certificate) I started with this > list, the most obvious. > > to me Minois looks a bit like Illinois, hence my concern about stepping on > toes. So the aim is to eliminate one of these states, and we started > with > Virginia. >

To: CC: BCC: Subject:RE: [VIRGINIA] Denise, A "ROWLAND B. LINDSEY was residing in Mason County, Virgina in 1820 and in 1830. There seem to be no longer anY LINDSEY [any spelling] residing in Mason County, VA by 1840. I did not check the 1850 US Census other than to check on the number of pages. I am not in a position to an advatace. 1850. I hope this is of help to you. The 1790, 1800, 1810, 1820, 1830 and 1840 US Census showed only the name of the head of household. Other members of the household were not named. They were just enumerated. The names of the head of household on the 1790, 1800, 1810, and 1820 US Census records are indexed and those census records are searchable, however the 1830 [74 images], 1840 [66 images], and 1850 [165 images] US Census Records are not yet indexed, so must be browsed image by image using HeritageQuest Online, which is my source for those census records. Below is the information I found of the 1820 and 1830 Census concerning the family of ROWLAND B. LINDSEY: 1820 US CENSUS No Township listed, Mason County, Virginia Series: M33 Roll: 138 Page: 13 LINDSEY, Rowland B. /1/0/0/0/2/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/1/1/ 1820 FEDERAL CENSUS HEADINGS Name of the County, Parish, Township, Town or City, where the Family resides: MASON COUNTY, VIRGINIA Names of Heads of Families: ROWLAND B. LINDSEY FREE WHITE MALES: Free white males under ten years = 1 Free white males of ten and under sixteen = 0 Free white males between sixteen and eighteen = 0 Free white males of sixteen and under twenty-six = 0 Free white males of twenty-six and under forty-five = 2 Free white males of forty-five and upwards = 0 FREE WHITE FEMALES: Free white females under ten years = 0 Free white females of ten and under sixteen = O Free white females of sixteen and under twenty-six = 1 Free white females of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 Free white females of forty-five and upwards = 0 Foreigners not naturalized = 0 Number of persons engaged in Agriculture = 1 Number of persons engaged in Commerce = 1 Number of persons engaged in Manufactures = 0 Slaves: Males: Males under fourteen = 0 Males of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 Males of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 Males of forty-five and upwards = 0 Females: Females under fourteen = 0 Females of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 Females of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 Females of forty-five and upwards = 0 Free Colored Persons: Males: Males under fourteen = 0 Males of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 Males of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 Males of forty-five and upwards = 0 Females: Females under fourteen = 0 Females of fourteen and under twenty-six = 0 Females of twenty-six and under forty-five = 0 Females of forty-five and upwards = 0 All other persons except Indians not taxed = 0 1830 US CENSUS No township listed, Mason County, Virginia Series: M19 Roll: 198 Page: 151 LINDSEY, Rowland B. /1/3/0/0/0/2/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/0/1/0/0/0/0/0/0/ 1830 FEDERAL CENSUS HEADINGS Name of County, City, Ward, Town, Township, Parish, Precinct, Hundred, or District. MASON COUNTY, VIRGINIA Name of Head of Family. ROWLAND B. LINDSEY FREE WHITE PERSONS (INCLUDING HEADS OF FAMILIES.) MALES. Under five years of age = 1 Of five and under ten = 3 Of ten and under fifteen = 0 Of fifteen and under twenty = 0 Of twenty and under thirty = 0 Of thirty and under forty = 2 Of forty and under fifty = 0 Of fifty and under sixty = 0 Of sixty and under seventy = 0 Of seventy and under eighty = 0 Of eighty and under ninety = 0 Of ninety and under one hundred = 0 Of one hundred and upwards = 0 FEMALES. Under five years of age = 1 Of five and under ten = 0 Of ten and under fifteen = 0 Of fifteen and under twenty = 0 Of twenty and under thirty = 0 Of thirty and under forty = 1 Of forty and under fifty = 0 Of fifty and under sixty = 0 Of sixty and under seventy = 0 Of seventy and under eighty = 0 Of eighty and under ninety = 0 Of ninety and under one hundred = 0 Of one hundred and upwards = 0 Source of 1820 Census Headings: SK Publications: http://www.skpub.com/genie/headings/1820.html Souce of Census Records: HeritageQuest Online: http://www.heritagequestonline.com -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA Thank you Erin. I got a reply also from someone who suggested my original question was not clear enough. In that case I try again... I am looking for the family and birthplace of a man who came to Australia in the gold rush years of 1850. Now being wary of treading on any listowners toes I perhaps did not express myself clearly in the first email. For that, if it was so, I apologise. This man William LindsEy claimed in various birth death Obituary marriage documents in Australia to have come from - 1. Virginia United States 2. Mason C 3. Minois - this has been used a couple of times in different sources. and on his death certificate the informant (not the deceased of course ) said 4. Illinois America. His father's name was Robert LindsEy and the mother - her name is hard to read but Punbr? formerly Russell. Since posting my first email I requested a look up from SKS for a census in Minois Mason County Virginia and the reply was that this man did not appear there. In order to go further in our research we are trying to establish just where he did come from, Virginia, Mason C, Minois or Illinois. The first thing to find was if Minois was a town, Mason C perhaps County, and which state, Virginia or Illinois. Because the Illinois came from information the man himself could not have provided (death certificate) I started with this list, the most obvious. to me Minois looks a bit like Illinois, hence my concern about stepping on toes. So the aim is to eliminate one of these states, and we started with Virginia. Thanks everyone Denise -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Here is another one. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvmason/mason.htm Erin T. Crowe IBSSG Let my kisses fall, Upon your starry eyes, The windows of your soul, Where all true beauty lies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA > Thank you Erin. > I got a reply also from someone who suggested my original question was not > clear enough. In that case I try again... > > I am looking for the family and birthplace of a man who came to Australia > in the gold rush years of 1850. Now being wary of treading on any > listowners toes I perhaps did not express myself clearly in the first > email. For that, if it was so, I apologise. > > This man William LindsEy claimed in various birth death Obituary marriage > documents in Australia to have come from - > > 1. Virginia United States > 2. Mason C > 3. Minois - this has been used a couple of times in different sources. > > and on his death certificate the informant (not the deceased of course ) > said > 4. Illinois America. > > His father's name was Robert LindsEy and the mother - her name is hard to > read but Punbr? formerly Russell. > Since posting my first email I requested a look up from SKS for a census > in Minois Mason County Virginia and the reply was that this man did not > appear there. > > In order to go further in our research we are trying to establish just > where he did come from, Virginia, Mason C, Minois or Illinois. The first > thing to find was if Minois was a town, Mason C perhaps County, and which > state, Virginia or Illinois. Because the Illinois came from information > the man himself could not have provided (death certificate) I started with > this list, the most obvious. > > to me Minois looks a bit like Illinois, hence my concern about stepping on > toes. So the aim is to eliminate one of these states, and we started > with Virginia. > > Thanks everyone > Denise > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erin T. Crowe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:37 AM > Subject: [VIRGINIA] To Denise re question on VA > > >> Denise, >> >> What is your question, I will try to answer as best as possible. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Erin T. Crowe IBSSG >> Let my kisses fall, >> Upon your starry eyes, >> The windows of your soul, >> Where all true beauty lies. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Denise" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:17 PM >> Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - >> Admin >> >> >>>I asked a simple question on this list as a newbie a day or two ago and >>>haven't seen an answer. Whilst I understand not everyone can answer a >>>question about a county or a town and whether they exist in Virginia, all >>>I've seen is this rubbish. >>> >>> Denise >>> Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - >>> Admin >>> >>> >>>>I agree. Enough's enough. Where's the list manager? >>>> >>>> Joanne >>>> >>>> JACINDA ANDRE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I thought this was about Virginia genealogy, please remove me from >>>> this board. I'm trying to do genealogy and this is very distracting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care, >>>> Cindy >>>> >>>> >>>> If God couldn't do it in one what makes me think I can.... >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover >>>> Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Denise, I think you should check out this site also. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilknox/biographies/bios_r.htm Denise <[email protected]> wrote: I have found Arvilla nee Lindsey on World Connect - a name which was used in the family here in Australia. Mother Phoebe Russell (right surname, the Christian name I couldn't read on the certificate) Father Rolland , not Robert (again, could be poor penmanship and faded ink on the marriage certificate from the 1850s) Now I only have to connect back to the parents to find siblings of Arvilla, on some other site as it is not on WC. Arvilla was in Illinois. I thank you all for your help. If we find it goes back to or started in Virginia, we shall let you know our findings in case someone connects. The name Rolland does for a start. regards and again sincere thanks Denise Australia Subject: [VIRGINIA] question on VA [LINDSEY] > Thinking to check the children's names of this William Lindsey I find an > unusual one > > Arviller > and another is named > William Roland > > Would it be wonderful to be on the right track! > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

Denise: I do recall your question and yes, there has been a lot of rubbish here lately. Mostly by just a few people who like to read their own emails and answer themselves. Be that as it may: Now, back to your question. The way you had posed it was rather odd and sort of defied an answer. May I respectfully ask to rephrase it in such a way that you let us know exactly you have in front of you, how you got to this point in your research, and just what the document (or documents) say? You made it seem as though as one document for one event applied to two people in two states. It really didn't seem clear to me. I'd be glad to help and I am sure a lot of others here would too. And yes, this recent jabber has just distracted most of us from the topic at hand. I realize you are at handicap living in another continent. Thankfully, we all speak some sort of the same form of English, and I'm sure we can muddle through this one if we give it enough attention. So, to quote someone in one of these continents who said "If at first you don't succeed, Try, Try, again." Fair enough? Craig Kilby, Virginia > [Original Message] > From: Denise <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 1/13/2006 6:17:23 PM > Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - Admin > > I asked a simple question on this list as a newbie a day or two ago and > haven't seen an answer. Whilst I understand not everyone can answer a > question about a county or a town and whether they exist in Virginia, all > I've seen is this rubbish. > > Denise > Subject: Re: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... - Admin > > > >I agree. Enough's enough. Where's the list manager? > > > > Joanne > > > > JACINDA ANDRE <[email protected]> wrote: > > I thought this was about Virginia genealogy, please remove me from this > > board. I'm trying to do genealogy and this is very distracting. > > > > > > > > Take Care, > > Cindy > > > > > > If God couldn't do it in one what makes me think I can.... > > > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > > Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi Denise, I was curious and did a quick google search on Mason Co. It is in West Virginia. It was all Virginia at one time then split and became two separate states. Maybe the rootsweb WVa list will have the answer for you about Minois. I'll still look and if I find it will let you know. Debra Denise <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you Debra. I understand defunct places - we have many in Australia (G). I've done some Googling and not had any luck with Virginia. However what about the County, Mason? Does it still exist in Virginia? That's ok, I'll move on. Denise --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

> > From: <[email protected]> > Date: 2006/01/13 Fri PM 02:09:22 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... > > I understand about caps and shouting, but in my world damn is not > cursing/swearing. > > John > > > On 12.01.2006 at 20:01:34, "Erin T. Crowe" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It is on this mail, it was on the bottom of the mail that you replied to. > > The curse word is DAMN. Caps is considered shouting. I can see, if someone > > > > is saavy of internet speak where they would get offended. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Erin T. Crowe IBSSG > > Let my kisses fall, > > Upon your starry eyes, > > The windows of your soul, > > Where all true beauty lies. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Will" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... > > > > > > > Never seen what other's did I guess as I haven't seen any cursing in any > > > messages. > > > Could someone fwd me the message to my E mail only so I can see what is > > > called CURSING.??? > > > Thank you. > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:01 AM > > > Subject: Re: [VIRGINIA] Well, I Am Sorry I Didn't Snip, But... > > > > > > > > >> Wow, I am amazed that someone would call that cursing! > > >> > > >> John > > >> > > >> > > >> On 11.01.2006 at 13:05:43, Karen Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Isn't it interesting that people who point out other people's faults > > >>> have so > > >>> many of their own? Shouting and cursing to the list instead of keeping > > >>> it > > >>> private? > > >>> > > >>> Bye, > > >>> Karen > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:16 PM > > >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > >>> Cc: [email protected] > > >>> Subject: Re: SPAM>>>Fwd: [VIRGINIA] When Opportunity Knocks....... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Hello Karen , AND Debra !!!!!!! This stuff is the worst of the worst > > >>> kind of trash , WAS IT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT YOU COPIED THE WHOLE > > >>> DAMN > > >>> THING BACK TO THE LIST ???????? , Do you not know about " snipping " , > > >>> Phil > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ============================== > > >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: > > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ============================== > > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > I have read all of this garbage that I care to. And John, I don't know where your world exists and don't care, but in my world DAMN IS CUSSING!!! Jimmy