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    1. [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Identification of my fellows in uniform/Thanks to all!
    2. Kathleen Lawry
    3. Hi folks: A while back, I put a query out to the mailing list about a photo that I had of several chaps in uniform that was taken in the early 1900's, I believed, somewhere near Bradford, YKS. I received many many replies, and although I tried to answer everyone individually, please take this as thanks if I missed you. You were all so helpful! For those of you who were unable to view the 450KB jpg, I have now uploaded a smaller jpg with less resolution for you at http://members.home.net/klawry/ What an amazing assortment of ideas and suggestions came through. And all thoughts were good ones. In the process, I learned a lot! The double breasted uniforms led some people to suspect that these people might be the crew of a passenger ship, firemen, or a brass band. All of these uniforms were double breasted at the time. Some folk were able to date the photo to around 1905, based on the dress of the ladies. Some folks thought that the flared pants suggested French sailors. People pointed out the nets in the background. Was the picture taken near the sea? The definitive answer, I believe, came from Iain Kerr of the GREATWAR-L list, and I include his reply in its entirety, with his permission, here. Kathleen, The men in uniform are wearing British Army uniforms and rank badges. The majority of the men are wearing the Broderick cap, a peak-less cap of German origin, which was the uniform forage cap for many regiments between 1902 and 1905. Being unpopular it was replaced by the more familiar peaked forage cap. The setting suggests that the photograph was of a group of officers, NCOs and men with their families before or after a territorial training camp. Unfortunately it is not possible to distinguish the design of the cap badge or the badge on one of the men's belts which would have allowed identification of the regiment. There were two territorial units based in Bradford before WWI. They were: The 2nd Volunteer Battalion, The Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment); from 1908, the 6th Battalion, The Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment) (Territorial Force) whose cap badge was a horse on a scroll; The 2nd West Yorkshire, Royal Garrison Artillery (Volunteers); from 1908 the 2nd West Riding Brigade, Royal Field Artillery (Territorial Force) whose cap badge would have been a Royal Artillery design involving a wheeled gun on a scroll. Yours aye, Iain Kerr in Windsor, Berkshire, United Kingdom Web Page at: http://home.clara.net/iainkerr/index.htm RootsWeb Sponsor and Listowner for the WORLDWAR2 Mailing List. Again, my sincere thanks to everyone. Kathleen in Red Deer, Alberta

    07/19/2001 12:13:41