Thank you for the tips in helping me try to identify this photo. I did order the book from Family Chronicle, so I hope it can help me further...I have a suspicion now also, after looking at it again and reading your posts, that it must be circa 1900....the poses are so unlike the 1920s...I also noticed alot of big bows and I seem to remember that as being turn of the century also. So it is possible that this is some Swedish play and not German? What are the clues that point in this direction? So my ancestor was in Germany performing a Swedish play? How interesting. Photo again: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=586598&a=4283760&p=56995155&Sequence=0&res=high Raquel

I will venture to guess turn of last century c1900 .. possibly 1910 .. notice the way the people mostly look away from the camera ,, and the closeness of some of the individuals leaning on one another and arm in arm ... I have seen this type pose in many 19th/ 20th turn of the century photos ...

In a message dated 12/2/01 1:14:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, thiebes@wnonline.net writes: > I know it's hard to figure out looking at the style of clothing (at least > for me and that's why I joined the list!)..looks like some kind of > theatrical pose..any ideas on what that's all about? Raquel, >From looking at the photo it does look to be some sort of theatrical play photo. From the style of cloths I would guess it is a Swedish type play at that. Sorry, that I can't tell what year that style of clothing would have been worn during the 1900s. Just my 2¢ worth on the photo. Join Now! Subscribe: KYHeritageFolklore-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Terry Thacker I look at doing genealogy as writing OUR own family Bible. Our ancestors are the things that have came to pass, and our descendants are the ones to fulfill it.

Raquel, Since it does seem that all the folks in the photo are dressed 'in costume', trying to date the photo by looking at the clothing would be a risky business. You might have better, more reliable luck to look at the type of photo itself... there are clues given in the backing, the size of the photo, the corners and decoration on the mounting... This is a good site to learn more about it: http://www.classyimage.com/picdate.htm And this is an excellent site for comparing old clothing when it's more feasable: http://www.familychronicle.com/dating.htm Good luck! Jen > -----Original Message----- > From: G&R Thiebes [mailto:thiebes@wnonline.net] > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:16 PM > To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Need help dating this photo..please see link > > > Hello all, > > Could someone here follow the link to the photo to help me > identify the timeframe it was taken in? I am trying to figure out > if this is my grandmother in the very middle (it sure looks a lot > like her as a young woman) or possibly her mother or even someone > else. My grandmom was born in 1912 and since this is a young > woman, I would say it can't be any earlier than 1922 if it is > her. I know it's hard to figure out looking at the style of > clothing (at least for me and that's why I joined the > list!)..looks like some kind of theatrical pose..any ideas on > what that's all about? If it's great grandmom, she was born in > 1885, so that would make her a young woman in about 1900 or > so...does this seem more like it? Thanks for your help! > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=586598&a=4283760&p=56995155& > Sequence=0&res=high > > Raquel > Researching the Horsch Family from Hohenhaslach and the Joos > Family from Meimsheim and near Freiburg > > > > ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds > for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Hello all, Could someone here follow the link to the photo to help me identify the timeframe it was taken in? I am trying to figure out if this is my grandmother in the very middle (it sure looks a lot like her as a young woman) or possibly her mother or even someone else. My grandmom was born in 1912 and since this is a young woman, I would say it can't be any earlier than 1922 if it is her. I know it's hard to figure out looking at the style of clothing (at least for me and that's why I joined the list!)..looks like some kind of theatrical pose..any ideas on what that's all about? If it's great grandmom, she was born in 1885, so that would make her a young woman in about 1900 or so...does this seem more like it? Thanks for your help! http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=586598&a=4283760&p=56995155&Sequence=0&res=high Raquel Researching the Horsch Family from Hohenhaslach and the Joos Family from Meimsheim and near Freiburg

----- Original Message ----- From: Cridge Porcelain Studio To: connilee@pulse.net Sent: 29 November, 2001 14:06 Subject: Photos Dear Connie, The only way I know of to adhere a photo to our porcelain is through a process called Die Sublimation. The porcelain must be chemically treated in order to achieve the result you're looking for. Most of our customers using this process have the treatment done by a company called Cactus Coating in Colorado. I hope this helped. Regards, Victoria Phoenix Manager, The Cridge Porcelain Studio

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Thanks Connie -----Original Message----- From: Connie Beggs [mailto:connilee@pulse.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:33 PM To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Photographic jewelry You might try a place that sells blank china for china painters. My Mom painted many nice jewelry pieces that would easily adapt to a photo. Cridge is one company with a web site that you might go to and ask. Also I think you can print a photo on decal paper and then fire it on the porcelain for a very permanent effect. Any ceramic shop would do the firing for you. Hugs Connie ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== We have over 223 members of the Vintage-Photos Mailing List. Posting back to the list helps the whole group, not just one person. If we work as a team, we'll succeed as a team. To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

You might try a place that sells blank china for china painters. My Mom painted many nice jewelry pieces that would easily adapt to a photo. Cridge is one company with a web site that you might go to and ask. Also I think you can print a photo on decal paper and then fire it on the porcelain for a very permanent effect. Any ceramic shop would do the firing for you. Hugs Connie

I am trying to find resources for photographic jewelry, but haven't much luck. Does anyone know of any information sources? I found a couple of websites but no articles. Thank you for your help Maureen Taylor www.taylorandstrong.com

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Hello Listers, I submitted the following letter in the hope someone could help me date and understand what more my pictures (with no names) could tell me. Some wrote to me that they could not open the url. I have to give you the HOME PAGE: http://www.photopoint.com/ Then paste my address on the upper right hand slot: dulcefeliz@hotmail.com Saphronia Trimble At 09:28 AM 11/22/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hello Listers, > > suggested that I put my old pictures on line and submit them to >different areas to see if someone recognized them. > >It occurred to me that if I ask this list to kindly look at the >photographs, someone may be able to tell me more about the pictures >themselves. Some are tin types, others photographs in studios etc. I am so >ignorant about how to date these pictures. > >http://albums.photopoint.com/ > >my email address: dulcefeliz@hotmail.com > >Thank you for any suggestions. Happy Thanksgiving! > >Saphronia > > >==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political >announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, >etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. >Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Hello Listers, suggested that I put my old pictures on line and submit them to different areas to see if someone recognized them. It occurred to me that if I ask this list to kindly look at the photographs, someone may be able to tell me more about the pictures themselves. Some are tin types, others photographs in studios etc. I am so ignorant about how to date these pictures. http://albums.photopoint.com/ my email address: dulcefeliz@hotmail.com Thank you for any suggestions. Happy Thanksgiving! Saphronia

Hello List, A very nice person at the library suggested that I ask how to get in touch with any one of the Photography Studios listed below. It would be amazing that I could connect with someone that could access information on a business that must be one hundred and fifty years old. Did they ever keep an archive or send their photography files to be preserved? Coon's Gallery, Kansas Avenue, Topeka, Kansas New River Side Gallery, Topeka, Kansas Leonard of Martin, Topeka, Kansas River Side Gallery, Topeka, Kansas J. Lee Knight, Topeka, Kansas A. D. Miller, Topeka, Kansas A. J. White's, 518 Main Street, Kansas City, MO Many thanks for any leads, Saphronia

Who Attended the 1621 "First Thanksgiving? John Alden 22 hired as cooper Isaac Allerton 35 Bartholomew Allerton 8 Remember Allerton (girl) 6 Mary Allerton 4 John Billington 41 Elinor Billington 37 John Billington 13 Francis Billington 11 William Bradford 31 William Brewster 53 Mary Brewster 52 Love Brewster (boy) 10 Wrestling Brewster (boy) 7 Peter Browne 21 Carver's maidservant 24*servant to Carver Mary Chilton 14 Francis Cooke 38 John Cooke 14 Humility Cooper (girl) 2 John Crackstone 21 (est.) Edward Dotey 21 servant to Hopkins Francis Eaton 29 Samuel Eaton 1 _______ Ely 23* hired seaman Samuel Fuller 41 Samuel Fuller, Jr. 14* Richard Gardiner 22* Stephen Hopkins 40 Elizabeth Hopkins 27 Constance Hopkins 16 Giles Hopkins 14 Damaris Hopkins (girl) 3 Oceanus Hopkins (boy) approx.1 John Howland 28 servant to Carver William Latham 13 servant to Carver Edward Lester 22* servant to Hopkins Desire Minter (girl) 15* Richard Moore 7 "put to" Brewster Priscilla Mullins 19 (est.) Joseph Rogers 17 Henry Sampson 17 George Soule 24 servant to Winslow Myles Standish 37 Elizabeth Tilley 14 William Trevore 23* hired seaman Richard Warren 41 Resolved White (boy) 6 Peregrine White (boy) approx. 11 months Edward Winslow 26 Susanna Winslow 31 Gilbert Winslow 21 NOTES : Ages marked by an * are conjectural. (est.) meaning estimated, has a more factual basis than *. Native Peoples who attended the 1621 event: The only name we have is Massasoit. However, it is almost certain that Squanto, the Pilgrim’s translator, was present as well. Among other probable attendees are Hobbamock, Quadequina (Massasoit’s brother), and Tokamahamon (mentioned in Mourt’s Relation in June 1621, as a "special friend"). We do not know whether Samoset was still in the Plymouth area or had already returned to Maine. Taken from http://www.plimoth.org/Library/Thanksgiving/thnksatt.htm Happy Thanksgiving! Kathleen Burnett List Mom

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Dear Mr. Miller, Thank you for the information on the Photographer Miller. I have many photographs and I have no idea other than combing the census for family names to see if I can identify these family members. Best regards, Saphronia At 08:19 PM 11/18/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >"Raul Carvajal, Ph.D" wrote: > >> Does anyone know where I can get the approximate dates that these >> photographers were in business? >> >> > >> >> A. D. Miller, Topeka, Kansas > >at least from Dec 1862 through March 1864 > > >Bill Christen >-- >gwjchris@rust.net >Visit our web site, "The Curiosity Shop" >http://www.rust.net/~gwjchris/ > > > >==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political >announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, >etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. >Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Hi bdmlhm, Thank you for your kind reply and excellent suggestions. I will do as you suggest. Best regards, Saphronia At 05:54 PM 11/18/01 -0500, you wrote: >At 12:47 AM 11/18/01 -0600, you wrote: >>Hello List, >> >>Does anyone know where I can get the approximate dates that these >>photographers were in business? >> >> >>Coon's Gallery, Kansas Avenue, Topeka, Kansas >>New River Side Gallery, Topeka, Kansas >>Leonard of Martin, Topeka, Kansas >>River Side Gallery, Topeka, Kansas >>J. Lee Knight, Topeka, Kansas >>A. D. Miller, Topeka, Kansas >>A. J. White's, 518 Main Street, Kansas City, MO > >Try checking city directories or contacting the Chamber of Commerce in >those cities. > ><http://www.king.igs.net/~bdmlhm/> > > >==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >