Kathy There are many ways to date a photograph including paper and style. I have several links on my website that might help. Maureen www.taylorandstrong.com -----Original Message----- From: Jmak777@aol.com [mailto:Jmak777@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:00 PM To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Old Photoes Could someone tell me when people started using cameras for home use? Is there a way to date photos by the paper or style? Thanks, Kathy ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Help! I'm caught in limbo and can not unsubscribe from this news letter. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Histroy101@aol.com [mailto:Histroy101@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:30 PM To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Old Photoes Kathy ,,, believe it was turn of the century thereabouts ,,,, heres a link that might help(below) ,.and I'm certain some one here will have the history of the Eastman company who I believe was one of the first "photos for the masses" http://www.classyimage.com/picdate.htm#CABINET%20CARD Joe Bott DeadFreds Genealogy Photo Archive http://www.deadfred.com ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen, or even touched. They must be felt with the heart. To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dvgagel@aol.com wrote: > Hi, I am the author of the Ohio book on Photographers. I have read the > recent postings and feel the need to remind everyone that although it is fine > to do look ups from books you may have, it is not ok to post anything on the > net from a copyrighted source. Ms. Gagel, I did not imply that I wanted folks to copy entire reference books to a web site. I thought it might be nice to find out who has reference books for each area for private look-ups. When I do give folks any information, I always quote the source. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@rust.net Visit our web site, "The Curiosity Shop" http://www.rust.net/~gwjchris/

A first cousin was married to the town's studio photographer who took family portraits in the 1890s. He may have taken the family group lined up in 1895 and the family home in eastern Canada. Relative took his second picture in August 1898 and sent his brother a copy on a cardboard mount. A few snapshots were taken in 1909 after the father of a family moved west. Those are probably contact prints, not mounted. Don't know who owned the cameras. Grandparents had a camera before their 1913 honeymoon. Several young female relatives in different households owned cameras in the middle 1920s showing young people in the city, people and animals on the farm, country school students and neighbors. One of those was a young student's prize at a country fair. Elizabeth in Canada ----- Original Message ----- > Could someone tell me when people started using cameras for home use? Is > there a way to date photos by the paper or style? Thanks, Kathy

Kathy ,,, believe it was turn of the century thereabouts ,,,, heres a link that might help(below) ,.and I'm certain some one here will have the history of the Eastman company who I believe was one of the first "photos for the masses" http://www.classyimage.com/picdate.htm#CABINET%20CARD Joe Bott DeadFreds Genealogy Photo Archive http://www.deadfred.com

Could someone tell me when people started using cameras for home use? Is there a way to date photos by the paper or style? Thanks, Kathy

Hi, I am the author of the Ohio book on Photographers. I have read the recent postings and feel the need to remind everyone that although it is fine to do look ups from books you may have, it is not ok to post anything on the net from a copyrighted source. FYI, there is a book on Pennsylvania photographers now as well. In my second book, Windows on the Past, I have a chapter on sources for photographer directories, published and unpublished for each state and Canada as well as guidelines on researching photographers. Good luck in your research. Diane Gagel

I think this is a great idea. Please let us know if and when you are ready to go. Happy New Year to all, Irene -----Original Message----- From: Fraser Dunford [mailto:fraser.dunford@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 3:39 PM To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Indexes of Early Photographers I seem to be constantly trying to find out if John Doe was a photographer in the 1870's or the 1880's, or both. This is not easy to answer, particularly if the photographer was in another part of the world. Photos did travel!! I have not seen a website that is an index of indexes and I think one would be useful. So I'm thinking about putting the material I have onto a website and asking everyone to add to it. The site would be simple, along the lines "If you know the photographer came from Edinburgh, Scotland, here are the websites to visit and the books to check". Has this already been done and I missed it? Does it sound like a good idea? ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Vintage-Photos list, use Vintage-Photos -l-request@rootsweb.com. To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Fraser Dunford wrote: > I seem to be constantly trying to find out if John Doe was a > photographer in the 1870's or the 1880's, or both. This is not easy > to answer, particularly if the photographer was in another part of > the world. Photos did travel!! > I have not seen a website that is an index of indexes and I think > one would be useful. Perhaps a start would be for us to list our own photography index sources so we could do look ups. I have Ohio, Arizona, and the entire Ross Kelbaugh series, as well as Darrah. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@rust.net Visit our web site, "The Curiosity Shop" http://www.rust.net/~gwjchris/

I haven't seen anything like what you are proposing. I usually turn to Photographers: A Sourcebook for Historical Research edited by Peter Palmquist for print sources. You have a great idea! Maureen Taylor www.taylorandstrong.com -----Original Message----- From: SMcKenzi@aol.com [mailto:SMcKenzi@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 5:10 PM To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Indexes of Early Photographers In a message dated 12/31/2001 1:43:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, fraser.dunford@sympatico.ca writes: << I seem to be constantly trying to find out if John Doe was a photographer in the 1870's or the 1880's, or both. This is not easy to answer, particularly if the photographer was in another part of the world. Photos did travel!! I have not seen a website that is an index of indexes and I think one would be useful. So I'm thinking about putting the material I have onto a website and asking everyone to add to it. The site would be simple, along the lines "If you know the photographer came from Edinburgh, Scotland, here are the websites to visit and the books to check". Has this already been done and I missed it? Does it sound like a good idea? >> I think this does sound like a good idea. I was researching old family photos from Nebraska and came upon website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~neresour/ancestors/photogindx.html I have not done an extensive search for others, however most of the photographer's sites I found were for current businesses. Sharon ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 12/31/2001 1:43:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, fraser.dunford@sympatico.ca writes: << I seem to be constantly trying to find out if John Doe was a photographer in the 1870's or the 1880's, or both. This is not easy to answer, particularly if the photographer was in another part of the world. Photos did travel!! I have not seen a website that is an index of indexes and I think one would be useful. So I'm thinking about putting the material I have onto a website and asking everyone to add to it. The site would be simple, along the lines "If you know the photographer came from Edinburgh, Scotland, here are the websites to visit and the books to check". Has this already been done and I missed it? Does it sound like a good idea? >> I think this does sound like a good idea. I was researching old family photos from Nebraska and came upon website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~neresour/ancestors/photogindx.html I have not done an extensive search for others, however most of the photographer's sites I found were for current businesses. Sharon

I seem to be constantly trying to find out if John Doe was a photographer in the 1870's or the 1880's, or both. This is not easy to answer, particularly if the photographer was in another part of the world. Photos did travel!! I have not seen a website that is an index of indexes and I think one would be useful. So I'm thinking about putting the material I have onto a website and asking everyone to add to it. The site would be simple, along the lines "If you know the photographer came from Edinburgh, Scotland, here are the websites to visit and the books to check". Has this already been done and I missed it? Does it sound like a good idea?

Take Care Bill -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Burnett [mailto:kathleenburnett@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:38 AM To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] From List Mom - Please Read Dear List Members, I will not be around my computer as much as normal for the next 9 days. I am spending these days with 3 of my children and their families which include 5 of my grandchildren. If you need me, please understand if it is a few days before I respond. For those of you who need to unsubscribe during this time, use Password Central. It is the easiest way for you. Go to http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions and you will be able to unsubscribe yourself from any rootsweb list you are on. I will be checking my e-mail about once a day, usually late in the evening and if there is a real emergency, contact me personally KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net Let me know what the problem is in the Subject line if possible. I will be back to my post on the 30th of December preparing our 4th Quarterly Report for 2001. My best to you and yours for the Holiday Season. Please take care a be safe. Kathleen Burnett List Mom ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen, or even touched. They must be felt with the heart. To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear List Members, I will not be around my computer as much as normal for the next 9 days. I am spending these days with 3 of my children and their families which include 5 of my grandchildren. If you need me, please understand if it is a few days before I respond. For those of you who need to unsubscribe during this time, use Password Central. It is the easiest way for you. Go to http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions and you will be able to unsubscribe yourself from any rootsweb list you are on. I will be checking my e-mail about once a day, usually late in the evening and if there is a real emergency, contact me personally KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net Let me know what the problem is in the Subject line if possible. I will be back to my post on the 30th of December preparing our 4th Quarterly Report for 2001. My best to you and yours for the Holiday Season. Please take care a be safe. Kathleen Burnett List Mom

Hello all. I am considering upgrading from my now rather old HP scanjet 4C scanner. I am looking again at HP and am torn between the 7400c and the 5470c. Does anyone on the list have any observations about the pros and cons of these two devices please? Regards. Mike James Berkshire, UK

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> What works better for me is using a digital camera. I have a Nikon Coolpix > 900 camera with a slide adapter. It can image slides and negatives. I > rigged up a portable contraption so that I can image microfilm with the > camera by using handles from my microfilm reader and a small 4x6 > transparency viewer backlight. I apologize for the mistake in camera numbers. I have a Coolpix 990, not a Coolpix 900. I think the '900 has a resolution of 1280x960 pixels and the '990 has a resolution of 2048x1536. I do not know if the slide adapter will work with the Coolpix 900 and even if it did, I don't think the resolution would be acceptable for microfilm imaging but might be adequate for some slide and negative copying. The '990 is generally acceptable for 35mm microfilm imaging, but there are always cases where you would like more resolution. I think the latest Coolpix model is the '995 which fixes red eye and other idiosyncracies of the '990 -Dean

> Dean, > What kind of results do you get with this arrangement: passable? good? > excellent? > > I'm trying to decide if spending $700 to $1000 on a dedicated transparency > scanner would be better spent on a new state-of-the-art flatbed with > transparency adaptor. I'm currently using an HP Scanjet 5100C (no adaptor). Linda, The results are passable to good but I haven't quantified anything by a real test. I did make a template for the scanner to put microfilm through and this resulted in acceptable results but far from spectacular. What works better for me is using a digital camera. I have a Nikon Coolpix 900 camera with a slide adapter. It can image slides and negatives. I rigged up a portable contraption so that I can image microfilm with the camera by using handles from my microfilm reader and a small 4x6 transparency viewer backlight. If I get a chance in the next few days, I might do a test to compare the various methods. BTW, I hadn't thought about the idea of imaging contact prints and saving printouts with the negatives. This is a good idea, and the Epson scanner does give passable results without using the backlight for contact image sizes (cover must be closed). Dean http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcgee/

In a message dated 12/13/01 10:18:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, bdmlhm@king.igs.net writes: > What scanner are you using to be able to do this? I would just get black > blobs because of no backlighting. Linda, I have the HP PSC 500 Printer, Copier and scanner all in one. I don't have to do anything other than lay the negatives on the glass and scan like I would any other photo and then change the scan to a negative image in my PSP graphics program. I can email you a sample of what results I get doing this if you like. Join Now! Subscribe: KYHeritageFolklore-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Terry Thacker I look at doing genealogy as writing OUR own family Bible. Our ancestors are the things that have came to pass, and our descendants are the ones to fulfill it.