In a message dated 3/12/2002 5:10:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, hobusch@camalott.com writes: > I've even seen a few tombstones with photos on the stone, visible to those > who visit the grave, I've only noticed these in the last few years, so > can't guess if they weather well over time. I remember seeing a tombstone in the Farnam, NE cemetery that my Dad pointed out to me years ago. He looked up that grave site because he was fascinated with the picture of a young lady on the marker. He said that it had been there since he was a young boy (he is now 88 yr) and always wondered how it stayed so bright and clear. How do they do that? Hope someone can come up with the answer to not only this, but also Kathy's question. Sharon

I've even seen a few tombstones with photos on the stone, visible to those who visit the grave, I've only noticed these in the last few years, so can't guess if they weather well over time. I liked the effect of some better than others. Judith Busch (in Texas) ----- Original Message ----- From: <KJlatsj@aol.com> To: <VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:36 AM Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] Can anyone answer this q? > Hello everyone, > > I don't know where I can ask this question, but thought someone here might be > able to help. > > My FIL wants to seal up a picture of my MIL in the entombment (correct word?) > area with her so that if it's ever opened up again people will know what she > looked like. He wants the picture to last a very long time and would like to > know how to preserve the picture for entombment? > I don't think I've run across this topic before. So any help would be much > appreciated. > > Thank you, > Kathy > > > ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== > We have over 223 members of the Vintage-Photos Mailing List. Posting back > to the list helps the whole group, not just one person. If we work as a team, > we'll succeed as a team. > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello everyone, I don't know where I can ask this question, but thought someone here might be able to help. My FIL wants to seal up a picture of my MIL in the entombment (correct word?) area with her so that if it's ever opened up again people will know what she looked like. He wants the picture to last a very long time and would like to know how to preserve the picture for entombment? I don't think I've run across this topic before. So any help would be much appreciated. Thank you, Kathy

I just uploaded the 2nd of 4 Photo Albums dating from 1911 to 1950s that was compiled over these years by Evangeline ELPERS of Logansport Indiana . This 2nd album shows a young woman and her friends as they were in the mid to late 1920s during the flapper Years .. at Picnics , Weddings , Partys ,with Family.. Many are Identified by first name.. some not at all .. a Few Surnames found in this 2nd album are FLOOD,BRENNAN,.. You will find a lot of unique and enjoyable viewing ... Maybe you can discover a relative or help discover one for a friend and send it Home .. The best way to view the album is to go to http://www.deadfred.com and select P in the alphabet listing , Scroll down to Photo Album-ELPERS2 .. this will bring up the individually identified Photos for you to Browse Good Luck and Enjoy! Joe Bott DeadFred.com http://www.deadfred.com

Thanks to everyone who responded to my email for help. I used several of the websites and was able to gain some new information as to the dating of the photos. There is no information about working with tintypes so I assume the only option is a digitized image. I will not bother with getting that done as these are sadly 3 unidentified men. One I have a suspicion but will never know for certain. So there is no justification for the expense at this point in time. Thank you again to everyone for their suggestions of websites - what a wealth of information. Jo Hogle

Fraser, can you please enlighten us on your planned website? Will it be a directory of studios? Will it be searchable? Will it only cover one geographic area? When do you hope to have it running? What will be the url? If you can set up a database searchable by studio name/place/date it would no doubt be welcomed by most listers and I think we would then owe it to you to gather what information we can from our own local public libraries for inclusion. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Fraser Dunford Sent: 07 March 2002 19:30 To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] studio names and locations of England I'm developing a website to answer just that question. Send me what's on the back and I'll see whether the sites I know of can help. Date forwarded: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:25:21 -0700 From: "Craig and Liz" <clmckean@telus.net> Date sent: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:17:05 -0800 Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] studio names and locations of England > Could anyone direct me on how I would go about in searching for the > wherabouts of a studio by what's on the back of old photo's? Have lots > and need help with people and places. thanks!

FYI ,, Heres a site that has many Studios,Photographers & addresses.. England ... <A HREF="http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm">Victorian Photographs - Carte de Visite</A> http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm Joe Bott DeadFreds Genealogy Photo Archive http://www.deadfred.com

Let me add to Pat's book suggestion .. Read "Victorian and Edwardian Fashion a Photographic Survey " with 235 Illustrations Alison Gernshiem .. Joe Bott DeadFreds Genealogy Photo Archive http://www.deadfred.com

Sadataki@aol.com wrote: > There is also an excellent book out there that has been referenced previously > on this list, that covers photographs from 1840 to 1900. It is called > "Dressed for the Photographer - Ordinary Americans and Fashion 1840-1900" by > Joan Severa. It makes a great reference book, not to mention entertaining > reading. Good Luck. Pat Sadataki Pat, One should use this book with some caution. My wife and I have had several discussion with Joan Severa about her clothing dating and some of her descriptions. She readily admits that she is not a clothing expert, but is only collector of photographs. The pictures are great to look at. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@earthlink.net

There is also an excellent book out there that has been referenced previously on this list, that covers photographs from 1840 to 1900. It is called "Dressed for the Photographer - Ordinary Americans and Fashion 1840-1900" by Joan Severa. It makes a great reference book, not to mention entertaining reading. Good Luck. Pat Sadataki

<< I would also like to know if there is someway of dating them. When were tintypes likely to have been used? >> Besides Classy Images here is another site that might help(below) .. scroll to the bottom . As far as restoring tintypes... thats a good question .. I havent heard of this being done on the actual tintype .. Digital yes... .. check Cyndislist.com scroll down to the Photograph section and look under "restorations" .. If the answer isnt there then probably it dosen't exist http://www.ajmorris.com/roots/photo/types.htm <A HREF="http://www.ajmorris.com/roots/photo/types.htm">Photo Types</A> Good Luck Joe Bott DeadFreds Genealogy Photo Archive http://www.deadfred.com

> MNGenLdy@aol.com writes: > > > Also... does anyone know of a website that might be helpful in dating photos > > based on styles of clothing? > My wife, Glenna Jo, and I would be happy to assist you in identifying clothing of 1830-1910. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@earthlink.net

In a message dated 3/8/2002 11:05:36 AM Central Standard Time, MNGenLdy@aol.com writes: > Also... does anyone know of a website that might be helpful in dating photos > > based on styles of clothing? Jo, Here is another web site that you might find of use in the style of clothes worn during certain time periods. <A HREF="http://www.familychronicle.com/dating.htm">Family Chronicle - Dating Old Photographs</A> http://www.familychronicle.com/dating.htm Join Now! Subscribe: KYHeritageFolklore-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Terry Thacker I look at doing genealogy as writing OUR own family Bible. Our ancestors are the things that have came to pass, and our descendants are the ones to fulfill it.

In a message dated 3/8/2002 11:05:36 AM Central Standard Time, MNGenLdy@aol.com writes: > I would also like to know if there is someway of dating them. When were > tintypes likely to have been used? Jo, Here is a web site that should help you a great deal in putting a time era with the tintype photos. <A HREF="http://www.classyimage.com/picdate.htm">Dating Old Photo's</A> http://www.classyimage.com/picdate.htm Join Now! Subscribe: KYHeritageFolklore-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Terry Thacker I look at doing genealogy as writing OUR own family Bible. Our ancestors are the things that have came to pass, and our descendants are the ones to fulfill it.

I have 3 small tintypes - slightly smaller than 2 1/2 by 3 /12. On of them is still fairly light and very interesting. The man is dressed in some sort of fur coat and has a hat on that together is reminiscent of pictures of the men during the "flapper era" with the raccoon coats and floppy brimmed hats. But I know this is older than that. It is shellacked like the other 2 and the color on the back is the same. The other 2 tintypes are much darker. Is there any way of lightening them or cleaning the surface? One had been in an oval frame and has markings from the frame and matting. I would also like to know if there is someway of dating them. When were tintypes likely to have been used? These 3 men are unidentified but given the fact that they were in family papers and a family photo album I must assume they were family. If I could date them in some way it would give me a good indication of who they might be given the family they came from. Thanks for any help. I am totally lacking in knowledge about photographs. Also... does anyone know of a website that might be helpful in dating photos based on styles of clothing? thanks for any help. Jo Hogle

I'm developing a website to answer just that question. Send me what's on the back and I'll see whether the sites I know of can help. Date forwarded: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:25:21 -0700 From: "Craig and Liz" <clmckean@telus.net> Date sent: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:17:05 -0800 Subject: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] studio names and locations of england To: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com Send reply to: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com > Could anyone direct me on how I would go about in searching for the > wherabouts of a studio by what's on the back of old photo's? Have lots > and need help with people and places1 thanks! > > > ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== > We have over 223 members of the Vintage-Photos Mailing List. Posting > back to the list helps the whole group, not just one person. If we > work as a team, we'll succeed as a team. To learn more about my world > visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Liz wrote: > The names on some of them are as follows...BRISTOL...SYDENHAM SE Liz, These are British (or maybe Canadian...Toronto or elsewhere in Canada West) images, and perhaps you already knew that as I don't know where you are. I am not familiar with the availability of business directories in he UK. There may be a Rootsweb source for this information. Of course, a library visit is the best place to start. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@earthlink.net

thanks, yes they are from England, never thought of looking at the libary, will ahve to check that out! Is there a directory do you think that I could look in? Cheers, LIZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Glenna Jo Christen" <gwjchris@earthlink.net> To: <VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] studio names and locations of england > > > Liz wrote: > > > The names on some of them are as follows...BRISTOL...SYDENHAM SE > > Liz, > > These are British (or maybe Canadian...Toronto or elsewhere in Canada West) images, > and perhaps you already knew that as I don't know where you are. I am not familiar > with the availability of business directories in he UK. There may be a Rootsweb > source for this information. Of course, a library visit is the best place to start. > > Bill Christen > -- > gwjchris@earthlink.net > > > ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== > We have over 223 members of the Vintage-Photos Mailing List. Posting back > to the list helps the whole group, not just one person. If we work as a team, > we'll succeed as a team. > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Craig and Liz wrote: > Could anyone direct me on how I would go about in searching for the wherabouts of a studio by what's on the back of old photo's? Have lots and need help with people and places1 thanks! Generally, CdVs and sometimes CCs will have the name and address of the photographer. If you have that information, you can consult a city directory or census records. There are several state-specific directories of photographers that are available. Using the characteristics of the photographic mounting, the type of photograph, the pose and the clothing of the subject a good estimate of the age of the photograph can be made. I guess we need to know what format the photographs are and exactly what information is on them to be of greater help. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@earthlink.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Glenna Jo Christen" <gwjchris@earthlink.net> To: <VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [VINTAGE-PHOTOS] studio names and locations of england > REPLY:> The majority of them are CdV's though have some cabinet cards. The names on some of them are as follows W H MIDWINTER 24 COLLEGE GREEN BRISTOL McLANACHAN EALING W. WILSON HARDING& CO 77 BEAUVOIR RD KINGSLAND BECKENHAM VALERY AUGUSTUS W WILSON 77 DE BEAUVOIR RD ROYAL LEAMINGTON GHRAMS STUDIOS ( i presume warwick for that one) GEORGE BUDD( no place name) P MITCHELL HIGH ST SYDENHAM SE Then just some of them have the address and not the photographers name. So, my problem is that I have an album of rather old pictures with maybe only 8 out of 50 with names and dates! Some of them I can figure out with the clothes and the border and edges and such, but how would I find a directory? Sorry this is so long, but I am new at this and have no idea to what I am doing! Thanks to all for your patience and understanding!!! Liz > > > > ==== VINTAGE-PHOTOS Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >