This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E3352CF9A1E770DE34E33D0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------E3352CF9A1E770DE34E33D0B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by mail.rose.net (mbox jordans) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Feb 12 19:38:43 2000) X-From_: zana-vg@worldnet.att.net Sat Feb 12 12:44:14 2000 Return-Path: <zana-vg@worldnet.att.net> Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by mail.rose.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13336 for <jordans@rose.net>; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:44:14 -0500 Received: from default ([12.74.98.139]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000212174344.STEA1419@default> for <jordans@rose.net>; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:43:44 +0000 Message-ID: <003201bf7582$5a96e520$8b624a0c@default> Reply-To: "suzanne golladay" <zana-vg@worldnet.att.net> From: "suzanne golladay" <zana-vg@worldnet.att.net> To: <jordans@rose.net> Subject: southern heritage Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:55:25 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Linda...pass this on or deep six as a personal communication as you see fit. I cannot begin to pretend to the wide historical knowledge of so many of our Vick cousins. I fact the recent discussion put my own academic achievements in very poor light; however I would like to present a more sociological wrap-up by pointing out that: 1) This group (the mail ring) was birthed by the descendants of Joseph Vick, a Quaker convert, and an adopted Southerner. The first three generations in the Colonies/US were of an overwhelming majority Quakers. It is proven fact that the Quakers (although "soft" on the issue early on...a few initially did have slaves; freeing them after the Friends took a more positive line on the issue) were anti-slavery...believing in the freedom of all persons...and, yes, equal participation in the church of both women and men. 2) The branches of Joseph's descendants who trekked west into Tennessee, Arkansas and Texas were simple frontier people. Not wealthy. 3) Of those whose path was to the south into Alabama and Mississippi were many devout with religious leaders among them. 4) As in any age they were a part of their society and the mores of the time. 5) My point being: to those Vicks of other lines. Please understand that we descendants of Joseph are overwhelmingly Southern by birth and experience (at least those of us born and raised before the 60's). We see and seek to learn from both the good and the bad in earlier generations and times, as in now; but we respect from where we come and we do not deny our Southern birthright to be proud of the South. This in no way requires that we think and act in this era as others did in theirs. We simply defend the right of our ancestors, in their time, to react as they did and not be criticized without proper perspective applied. suzanne --------------E3352CF9A1E770DE34E33D0B--