Doris -- That's a good idea except the next Newsletter is going to have all the reunion information, plus a couple of articles on Virginia Vicks who stayed put and we have only so much money budgeted for each issue so I think I'm better off mailing the chronology just to those who request it. Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: Doris Moore <djmoore@nb.net> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology >Di Ann, > >Would it be easier on you to just add it to the next newsletter? > >Doris > >---------- >> From: Di Ann Vick <davick@bellatlantic.net> >> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology >> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:00 AM >> >> Dallas -- >> >> I will need your snail mail address. Please send it to me >> privately:davick@bellatlantic.net >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dallas T Ebest <debest@express-news.net> >> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology >> >> >> > >> > >> >Di Ann Vick wrote: >> > >> >> OK folks, I will happily send my chronology of Joseph Vick to each of >> you. It is 3-4 pages printed out and is a documented listing of what I >have >> found on Joseph Vick the emigrant (or immigrant) depending on your >> geographic preference. All I ask is that you let me know if you have >> additional information. Any additional information will be reported in >the >> Vick Newsletter and I will add it to the chronology. >> >> >> >> You may wonder why I put so much stock in the Newsletter (other than >the >> obvious fact that I am its editor) and this is my reason: all major >> genealogical collections and state archives receive it and thus it is a >> major resource for anyone researching the Vick family at those locations. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help and interest, >> >> >> >> Di Ann >> > >> >Di Ann . I would appreciate a copy... thanks Dallas Ebest >> > >> > >

Doris -- That is a good idea. It would certainly save somewhat of Di Ann's time and resources, and I'm reasonably certain it would be acceptable to most of the JVFOA members. Perhaps Di Ann could only mail it to those who are not members, and some might even want to join so they would be on the mailing list for the Newsletter. For what it's worth, that's my two cents worth. Jack Landers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Moore" <djmoore@nb.net> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > Di Ann, > > Would it be easier on you to just add it to the next newsletter? > > Doris > > ---------- > > From: Di Ann Vick <davick@bellatlantic.net> > > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > > Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:00 AM > > > > Dallas -- > > > > I will need your snail mail address. Please send it to me > > privately:davick@bellatlantic.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dallas T Ebest <debest@express-news.net> > > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > > > > > > > > > > > > >Di Ann Vick wrote: > > > > > >> OK folks, I will happily send my chronology of Joseph Vick to each of > > you. It is 3-4 pages printed out and is a documented listing of what I > have > > found on Joseph Vick the emigrant (or immigrant) depending on your > > geographic preference. All I ask is that you let me know if you have > > additional information. Any additional information will be reported in > the > > Vick Newsletter and I will add it to the chronology. > > >> > > >> You may wonder why I put so much stock in the Newsletter (other than > the > > obvious fact that I am its editor) and this is my reason: all major > > genealogical collections and state archives receive it and thus it is a > > major resource for anyone researching the Vick family at those locations. > > >> > > >> Thanks for your help and interest, > > >> > > >> Di Ann > > > > > >Di Ann . I would appreciate a copy... thanks Dallas Ebest > > > > > > >

Faye -- It would be good if I read all my e-mails before answering them. You can subscribe to the Vick Family Newsletter by contacting: S. Morgan Vick, Treasurer Joseph Vick Family of America 221 Rose Creek Lane Columbia, SC 29229-8856 Membership is $20 per year and includes our quarterly newsletter, no charge searches of our data bases and information on our annual meetings. This year's meeting will be in Portsmouth, Virginia and will include visits to Southampton County, where Joseph Vick settled. Thank you for your interest, Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: Pugthree@aol.com <Pugthree@aol.com> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search >How can I get a copy of the newsletter. >Faye > >

Di Ann -- Thanks for your reply. Since we have had a little snow here, I do understand you not being able to move your car, etc. No apologies needed! Glad to hear that the Newsletter has been mailed, and am looking forward to it. Yes, I have a lot of information, but most of it would probably not be of interest to the Vicks. As most others are doing, I assume, I am working on many branches of my family tree all at the same time. My approach may be unorthodox, but it is simply to accumulate and record information as it comes to hand, then my plan is to start following trails through my family tree until I have exhausted leads on one trail, then start on another. Most of what I have on the Vicks (and Sikes) is what my mother recorded (on scraps of paper and in a ledger she kept), with various newspaper clippings and old letters from her brothers and sisters. In fact, the primary reason I joined the list and JVFOA was to obtain information either confirming or refuting some of the information she had recorded before she died in 1994. I will, as you suggested, send you any information that seems to be of some interest to the group, for you to evaluate for publication, as I come across it. Sorry to say, my mother did not get many of the family papers, bible, etc., and I don't really know what happened to them. Again, thanks for the answer. Will be looking forward to the Newsletter and the Book. It's a pity the JVFOA meeting won't be held in Fort Wayne again, though. This time I know about it and would attend. Jack Landers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Di Ann Vick" <davick@bellatlantic.net> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > Jack -- > > I failed to answer your question about the Newsletter in my response to the > question about the book and my chronologies. Yes, it has been mailed. I > apologize for the lateness, but, as I explained in it, I got more involved > in house renovations than I expected and then we were unable to move our car > for over two weeks and thus could not get the Newsletter to the printer. > > Say, if you have all that information, how about sharing it in the > Newsletter. I really do welcome articles from our members ... I think we > have a lot of gifted researchers who have information that others would be > interested in. All I ask is that you let us know the sources of your > information -- just follow the styles used in the Newsletter. If you have > your family line in a format different from that used in the Newsletter, > send it along anyway -- I can reformat it. But I really would love to > receive anecdotal information, letters, Bible records, wills (Jim sent me > copies of two English wills which I am going to use in the next issue), > deeds -- anything. Everything that I receive is saved for future volumes of > the family history. > > Di Ann > > P.S. Since you are a member of JVFOA I have your address and will mail the > chronology to you. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Landers <charliej@fwi.com> > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > > > >Di Ann, you said -- > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Di Ann Vick" <davick@bellatlantic.net> > >To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:00 PM > >Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > > > > > >> Hi, Jim -- > >> > >> Detailed answers to what you are seeking can be found in the forthcoming > >> book, Joseph Vick of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and > His > >> Descendants, Vol. I. ..................................... > >> > >> ......I like to set up chronologies of individuals I am researching and I > >would be > >> delighted to send you the chonology I have done on Joseph, if you would > >like > >> a copy. > >> > >> Di Ann > > > >Just a couple (or three) questions for you. > > > >1) Why don't you just post your chronologies to the list? I and I'm sure > >several others would be interested in them. > > > >2) You said in an earlier post ( January 29, 2000) that "The January issue > >of the Vick Family Newsletter will be mailed in early > >February..........................." Has it been mailed yet? If so, I have > >not received my copy. If not, I apologize for asking. > > > >3) What is the current status of the book? Not trying to rush you, but a > lot > >of us are anxiously awaiting it's publication (even though a lot of us > >already have more material than they will be able to sort through in any > >reasonable time). Is there an anticipated publication date? > > > >Thanks for any and all information on any of the above. > > > >Jack Landers > > > > > >

If you will send me your address I will send a couple of dollars for your postage. Faye

I'm guilty of the same thing. Thanks for the info. Faye

Dallas -- I will need your snail mail address. Please send it to me privately:davick@bellatlantic.net -----Original Message----- From: Dallas T Ebest <debest@express-news.net> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > > >Di Ann Vick wrote: > >> OK folks, I will happily send my chronology of Joseph Vick to each of you. It is 3-4 pages printed out and is a documented listing of what I have found on Joseph Vick the emigrant (or immigrant) depending on your geographic preference. All I ask is that you let me know if you have additional information. Any additional information will be reported in the Vick Newsletter and I will add it to the chronology. >> >> You may wonder why I put so much stock in the Newsletter (other than the obvious fact that I am its editor) and this is my reason: all major genealogical collections and state archives receive it and thus it is a major resource for anyone researching the Vick family at those locations. >> >> Thanks for your help and interest, >> >> Di Ann > >Di Ann . I would appreciate a copy... thanks Dallas Ebest >

Di Ann Vick wrote: > OK folks, I will happily send my chronology of Joseph Vick to each of you. It is 3-4 pages printed out and is a documented listing of what I have found on Joseph Vick the emigrant (or immigrant) depending on your geographic preference. All I ask is that you let me know if you have additional information. Any additional information will be reported in the Vick Newsletter and I will add it to the chronology. > > You may wonder why I put so much stock in the Newsletter (other than the obvious fact that I am its editor) and this is my reason: all major genealogical collections and state archives receive it and thus it is a major resource for anyone researching the Vick family at those locations. > > Thanks for your help and interest, > > Di Ann Di Ann . I would appreciate a copy... thanks Dallas Ebest

OK folks, I will happily send my chronology of Joseph Vick to each of you. It is 3-4 pages printed out and is a documented listing of what I have found on Joseph Vick the emigrant (or immigrant) depending on your geographic preference. All I ask is that you let me know if you have additional information. Any additional information will be reported in the Vick Newsletter and I will add it to the chronology. You may wonder why I put so much stock in the Newsletter (other than the obvious fact that I am its editor) and this is my reason: all major genealogical collections and state archives receive it and thus it is a major resource for anyone researching the Vick family at those locations. Thanks for your help and interest, Di Ann

How can I get a copy of the newsletter. Faye

DIANN, I would like a copy of the chronology. Thanks, Norene Weigl 1721 S. Abilene, Portales, NM88130 ---------- > From: Di Ann Vick <davick@bellatlantic.net> > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:33 PM > > I would post the Joseph Vick chronology to the list if I could figure out some way of isolating it from the rest of my Vick file. I don't want to post my complete file because I know that there are uncorrected errors in it. I think the internet is great, but I do worry about the amount of inaccurate information that is being spread and, because I am a professional genealogist, I don't want to distribute bad information and especially not on my own family! I have been devoting so much time to working on the Vick book that I have not revised my computer files to reflect the research that we have done in connection with the book. > > If those of you who would like the chronology will contact me privately (davick@bellatlantic.net) with your snail mail addresses I will print out copies and mail them to you. > > As for the book, we hope it will be available at the Joseph Vick Family of America Annual Meeting in Portsmouth, Virginia in July. It will, of course, be offered to all members of Vick-L, also -- and to anyone interested in buying a copy. > > Di Ann >

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Jack -- I failed to answer your question about the Newsletter in my response to the question about the book and my chronologies. Yes, it has been mailed. I apologize for the lateness, but, as I explained in it, I got more involved in house renovations than I expected and then we were unable to move our car for over two weeks and thus could not get the Newsletter to the printer. Say, if you have all that information, how about sharing it in the Newsletter. I really do welcome articles from our members ... I think we have a lot of gifted researchers who have information that others would be interested in. All I ask is that you let us know the sources of your information -- just follow the styles used in the Newsletter. If you have your family line in a format different from that used in the Newsletter, send it along anyway -- I can reformat it. But I really would love to receive anecdotal information, letters, Bible records, wills (Jim sent me copies of two English wills which I am going to use in the next issue), deeds -- anything. Everything that I receive is saved for future volumes of the family history. Di Ann P.S. Since you are a member of JVFOA I have your address and will mail the chronology to you. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Landers <charliej@fwi.com> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search >Di Ann, you said -- > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Di Ann Vick" <davick@bellatlantic.net> >To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:00 PM >Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > > >> Hi, Jim -- >> >> Detailed answers to what you are seeking can be found in the forthcoming >> book, Joseph Vick of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and His >> Descendants, Vol. I. ..................................... >> >> ......I like to set up chronologies of individuals I am researching and I >would be >> delighted to send you the chonology I have done on Joseph, if you would >like >> a copy. >> >> Di Ann > >Just a couple (or three) questions for you. > >1) Why don't you just post your chronologies to the list? I and I'm sure >several others would be interested in them. > >2) You said in an earlier post ( January 29, 2000) that "The January issue >of the Vick Family Newsletter will be mailed in early >February..........................." Has it been mailed yet? If so, I have >not received my copy. If not, I apologize for asking. > >3) What is the current status of the book? Not trying to rush you, but a lot >of us are anxiously awaiting it's publication (even though a lot of us >already have more material than they will be able to sort through in any >reasonable time). Is there an anticipated publication date? > >Thanks for any and all information on any of the above. > >Jack Landers > >

I would post the Joseph Vick chronology to the list if I could figure out some way of isolating it from the rest of my Vick file. I don't want to post my complete file because I know that there are uncorrected errors in it. I think the internet is great, but I do worry about the amount of inaccurate information that is being spread and, because I am a professional genealogist, I don't want to distribute bad information and especially not on my own family! I have been devoting so much time to working on the Vick book that I have not revised my computer files to reflect the research that we have done in connection with the book. If those of you who would like the chronology will contact me privately (davick@bellatlantic.net) with your snail mail addresses I will print out copies and mail them to you. As for the book, we hope it will be available at the Joseph Vick Family of America Annual Meeting in Portsmouth, Virginia in July. It will, of course, be offered to all members of Vick-L, also -- and to anyone interested in buying a copy. Di Ann

Dear Di Ann, I would be most interested in receiving a opy of the chronology of Joseph Vick. My line is from Josiah Vick, born Oct 29, 1826; died Jan 19, 1886, in Nash County NC. , but I am very interested in the history of the Vick family. My address: Joyce Vick Edwards 2 Woodlawn Drive Hampton, VA 23666 phone 757 826 4764 email JEdwa98154@aol.com Thank you in advance. Joyce

I would like to have a copy. Mrs. Ralph L. Vick 3761 Shannon Road Portsmouth VA 23703 Thanks!

Hi Jack, What a great idea, and don't know why I didn't ask the questions. So Di Ann I second Jack's questions. Regards, Jim Vick Verona, Italy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Landers <charliej@fwi.com> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > Di Ann, you said -- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Di Ann Vick" <davick@bellatlantic.net> > To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > > > > Hi, Jim -- > > > > Detailed answers to what you are seeking can be found in the forthcoming > > book, Joseph Vick of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and His > > Descendants, Vol. I. ..................................... > > > > ......I like to set up chronologies of individuals I am researching and I > would be > > delighted to send you the chonology I have done on Joseph, if you would > like > > a copy. > > > > Di Ann > > Just a couple (or three) questions for you. > > 1) Why don't you just post your chronologies to the list? I and I'm sure > several others would be interested in them. > > 2) You said in an earlier post ( January 29, 2000) that "The January issue > of the Vick Family Newsletter will be mailed in early > February..........................." Has it been mailed yet? If so, I have > not received my copy. If not, I apologize for asking. > > 3) What is the current status of the book? Not trying to rush you, but a lot > of us are anxiously awaiting it's publication (even though a lot of us > already have more material than they will be able to sort through in any > reasonable time). Is there an anticipated publication date? > > Thanks for any and all information on any of the above. > > Jack Landers >

Di Ann, you said -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Di Ann Vick" <davick@bellatlantic.net> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search > Hi, Jim -- > > Detailed answers to what you are seeking can be found in the forthcoming > book, Joseph Vick of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and His > Descendants, Vol. I. ..................................... > > ......I like to set up chronologies of individuals I am researching and I would be > delighted to send you the chonology I have done on Joseph, if you would like > a copy. > > Di Ann Just a couple (or three) questions for you. 1) Why don't you just post your chronologies to the list? I and I'm sure several others would be interested in them. 2) You said in an earlier post ( January 29, 2000) that "The January issue of the Vick Family Newsletter will be mailed in early February..........................." Has it been mailed yet? If so, I have not received my copy. If not, I apologize for asking. 3) What is the current status of the book? Not trying to rush you, but a lot of us are anxiously awaiting it's publication (even though a lot of us already have more material than they will be able to sort through in any reasonable time). Is there an anticipated publication date? Thanks for any and all information on any of the above. Jack Landers

At 02:00 PM 2/18/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, Jim -- > >I like to set up chronologies of individuals I am researching and I would be >delighted to send you the chonology I have done on Joseph, if you would like >a copy. > >Di Ann Di Ann, If it's not too much trouble, could I get a copy of this information, too? Thanks so very much, Ronald

At 07:32 PM 2/18/00 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I don't want to sound like a troublemaker, but with all the information that I have up to now, I cannot show proof that Joseph even existed. I'm sure someone can enlighten me with some kind of proof that he did in fact exist and where he came from. I would like for somebody to at least tell me what documentation was used to prove Joseph came from Gloucestershire, or any other place for that matter. > >I have hired Tim Cooper a professional Genealogist in England to do some research for me, mainly looking for information about Joseph and his ancestors. Tim came up just about empty handed. Below is the last letter I received from Tim Cooper regarding his search. > >I do have information from another source that Joseph's father was Richard Vick b. 1604, Grandfather Thomas Vick B. 1581, and Great Grandfather Richard Vick b. 1556 all in Kings Stanley, Gloucestershire, England. The only thing is I received no proof along with the information and up to now have not found any proof. > >If anybody can offer me anything, which is, somewhat convincing it would be highly appreciated. > >Thank you in advance. > > > >Jim Vick And there you put your finger on the problem of tracing family members from records over 300 years old! I have a copy of a deed, from Hodges Councill, giving fifty acres of land to Joseph Vick, dated Dec.20, 1674. The land is located in Isle of Wight, Virginia. Also a Land grant from Sir Henry Chichely, dated Sept. 22, 1682, granting Joseph Vick 360 acres of land adjoining the estate of Hodges Councill. These grants were given to first generation settlers, and rarely to second generation. (Patent book 7, 1679-1689) It also appears that Joseph Vick bought land from Rowland Burkley, June 9, 1683. There is considerable debate as to when Joseph Vick came to America, and indeed , if he stayed here. Some hold that having made his fortune, he retired to England, dividing his land holdings among his children. There has already been a tremendous amount of searching for his name among shipping lists, with no luck. This has lead some to remark that he may have used a different name, although there is no proof to this speculation. In fact, we don't even know the name of the woman he married. Some state he married Lucy Councill, a daughter of Hodges Councill, but there is no proof of this. Joseph Vick's mark, as shown on the few documents we do have, show a half circle, with the bottom closed by a horizontal line. Good luck with the search, if you find anything, it'll be most welcome! Ronald Vick