Doris is right -- Vick-L and the JVFOA are two completely separate and wonderful groups. Vick-L is part of the larger Rootsweb project, which I, too, support. I don't know whether or not Linda Fiddie, our site master, pays an additional fee for the Vick list. If she does and wants contributions toward maintaining it, I think she should make that determination. The Joseph Vick Family of America is a chartered, non-profit organization. Its directors are elected by the members who attend the annual meeting. The directors are responsible for managing the organization. They meet during the annual meeting and when a decision such as the current offer is required they are sent the appropriate information and then share their opinions and a decision is made. As for the current distribution of the Joseph Vick chronology, many have volunteered contributions toward it. My expenses are paper, envelopes and postage. The envelopes and paper are gratis, but I would like to remind folks that when we request genealogical information by snail mail it is a good idea to send the person supplying the information a self-addressed, stamped envelope. Now, those of you who have requested the chronology, don't start sending me envelopes -- my trusty computer and I have already prepared the envelopes and are just waiting for the requests to slow down. When the orders stop, I'll print up the requests and put them in the mail. I am thrilled with the interest in this information summarizing the known documents on Joseph Vick that I have found and I am delighted to share it. And thank each of you who has contributed to the mailing costs. That is very thoughtful of you. And also thank you for your many kind comments about the book that John Beatty and I are producing and for your nice comments about the Newsletter. Di Ann

DiAnn Sorry: My self addressed stamped envelope was mailed yesterday. Faye

See I knew you guys would come up with some good stuff. I do have another thought. I know that is scary but here goes. Nobody has made mention of the Banner I spoke of. This is no big deal I just thought it would be nice to have at reunion time. It might also help some of us understand if we Vicks have a family Crest, what it should look like. I know there is not any one person out there that can say, oh yes this is our family crest and this is what it looks like. If our silent majority would come out of hiding I would like to here some discussion of that and see if we can approve something we can all say okay that is what we think it is. So what do you think oh silent ones, Speak to us. If you wait until it is a done deal to say oh no that's not it. Your vote will not count so if you have a thought or care speak now or you know the rest, that's right forever hold your peace. Anybody can sit back and say no no no see I told you it was no. I am looking for enough of us to step up and say yes I'll accept that Crest. So unless somebody has another Crest in mind My vote will go for the one I have posted to the My Family page. I will be happy to provide the company name that did the research if anybody would like to have that. I do know from the other Crest I have seen so far they all seem to have similarity with some differences..... So let talk about it? Make up my mind will ya! On the issue of donating $5 bucks each. I was hoping we would all take turns paying the $25 each. That way if I go last, hmmm lets see we have about 100 on the list oh well if I live long enough I would be very happy to pay when my turn comes up.... (Grin) Now I'm laughing. Don't get your panties in a bunch I am just teasing. I think the $5 dollars each sent to JVFOA treasure to be used as needed will work just fine. Actually we are an extension and part of the JVFOA so when the bill for the list comes due it would be very easy for him to send a check. Hold the phone you guys. We seem to have gone right past Linda. She might prefer to handle the fund herself. I see no reason why it would need to go to the Treasure of the JVFOA if Linda wants to be the Treasure of the list as well as it's founder. Linda this is where you say something...(Grin) Now what about that Banner? Cuz;en David 906 W Terrace Dr Plant City Fl. 33565 813-659-3435 Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html

Whoa Down Here, Folks! Let me get in on this, too! I do believe Di Ann is right, though. I assume the Directors of JVFOA were elected to handle things such as this (or generously volunteered -- I'm not sure which), so let's let them handle it. Perhaps it would not be out of order to establish a 'contingency' fund which could be used to cover unusual but necessary expenses such as those associated with copying and mailing the Joseph Vick Chronology. Each of us could then contribute to this fund, to be used at the discretion of the Directors. Since I am also a Rootsweb Sponsor at $24 per year (I recommend this to one and all, also), the cost of the fees associated with the site could be paid or reimbursed to Linda Fiddie from this fund also. I recommend you propose this or something similar to the Directors, Di Ann. Perhaps an additional $1 to $5 per year would be appropriate. In the meantime, perhaps the donations/contributions you get could be used to defray your current expenses, with any surplus (if any) returned to the JVFOA treasury. Jack Landers P. S. My check is in the mail, Di Ann. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Di Ann Vick" <davick@bellatlantic.net> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Help with the cost > Thank you kindly, suh! > > Actually, I'm kinda overwhelmed with the generosity of our JVFOA and Vick-L > members. One member of both has just offered to very generously underwrite > our activities! However, I will have to take his offer up with Linda Fiddie, > our site master, and with the directors of JVFOA. Frankly, while I > appreciate his generosity, I think it is better to spread out the financial > responsibilities/obligations. > > Di Ann > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Vick <vick29@iol.it> > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:09 PM > Subject: [VICK-L] Help with the cost > > > > > >Hi Di Ann, > > > > > > > >I well understand the cost of copying and mailing documents so I'm sending > a bit more so you can also send me some other files; I go out to get my US > mail tomorrow so will put the check in the mail. > > > > > > > >Jim Vick > > > >Verona, Italy > > > > > > > >

Thank you kindly, suh! Actually, I'm kinda overwhelmed with the generosity of our JVFOA and Vick-L members. One member of both has just offered to very generously underwrite our activities! However, I will have to take his offer up with Linda Fiddie, our site master, and with the directors of JVFOA. Frankly, while I appreciate his generosity, I think it is better to spread out the financial responsibilities/obligations. Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: Jim Vick <vick29@iol.it> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: [VICK-L] Help with the cost > >Hi Di Ann, > > > >I well understand the cost of copying and mailing documents so I'm sending a bit more so you can also send me some other files; I go out to get my US mail tomorrow so will put the check in the mail. > > > >Jim Vick > >Verona, Italy > > >

Thank you! Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: Pugthree@aol.com <Pugthree@aol.com> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search >DiAAnn >I will put it in the mail today. I know coping etc is not cheap. >Faye > >

Hi Di Ann, I well understand the cost of copying and mailing documents so I'm sending a bit more so you can also send me some other files; I go out to get my US mail tomorrow so will put the check in the mail. Jim Vick Verona, Italy

DiAnn: It;s been mailed. Thanks a bunch Faye

The date shown on your label is the due date of your renewal. For example, if your label says Mar-00, your dues should be renewed during March 2000. Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: T. J. Vick Phillips <map@uswest.net> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Re: Show Me The Money and Stuff >Is the fee due the first of every year or one year from when you first >subscribed? > >Di Ann Vick wrote: > >> Dave -- >> >> You're right; you are a little delinquent. Just check the mailing label on >> your new Newsletter and you can figure out how much. Morgan Vick will >> happily accept your check: >> >> S. Morgan Vick, Treasurer >> Joseph Vick Family of America >> 221 Rose Creek Lane >> Columbia, SC 29229-8856 >> >> Di Ann >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Good2news@aol.com <Good2news@aol.com> >> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:26 PM >> Subject: [VICK-L] Re: Show Me The Money and Stuff >> >> ><< Again, thanks for the answer. Will be looking forward to the Newsletter >> and >> > the Book. It's a pity the JVFOA meeting won't be held in Fort Wayne again, >> > though. This time I know about it and would attend. >> > >> > Jack Landers >> > >> >Dear List. >> >I would like to jump in while we are talking about JVFOA and the News >> Letter. >> >Oh well lets through in our list as well. >> >I would like to raise a little money. I am open to suggestions anything >> from >> >selling DiAnn at public auction to just plan old donating because it is >> >needed. >> >Here is what I would like to raise money for. >> >1. It cost $25 per year to maintain our list on the web. It was paid last >> >year by a friend of the list. It has already been spoken for this year 2000 >> >by a Friend of the Vick list. However you and I both know it will come up >> >year after year. How do you think we should raise the money to pay for the >> >list we all enjoy so much? All put a little in the pot each year. Or take >> >turns coughing up the $25 bucks by one generous sole each year as we go? >> >2. The JVFOA News letter? This is the only source of income the JVFOA Inc. >> >has so if you don't get the News letter but want to contribute to the cause >> >just subscribe. >> >They say confession is good for the soul so here goes. I am behind in my >> >JVFOA dues. I don't know where to send the money. (That's my story and I am >> >sticking to it.) I know it has been posted on this list but as you all know >> >by now, I don't keep records. Out of sight out of mind. So if the nice man >> >would be kind enough to post where our dues can be sent again I will bring >> my >> >delinquent account up to date. I beleive this act alone will keep JVFOA >> >solvent for a few years to come.I know they are a not for profit >> organization >> >but it does take money to write and mail out the news letter. Well, I don't >> >think it takes money for DiAnn to write she is rather small and I think a >> >crust of bread from time to time should be enough... (Grin) Of course DiAnn >> >knows I am just teasing her. She has done so much for so long with so >> little >> >I hope it never changes. (Now I am really GRINNING) >> >#. lastly and I understand this one may not make the cut. Or we should talk >> >about it some before we move on this one. >> >I would like to have two vinyl banners made with the Vick Crest and maybe >> the >> >History of the Family name on it to be posted at our Annual JVFOA Reunions. >> >This might even help us decide what we are going to accept as our family >> >crest. Nobody seems to know what it should be now? I know there are some >> >different ones out there. The History of the name? You guys know I don't >> >care. I did pay an outfit to do the research for me and I have what they >> came >> >up with. If that is acceptable to all well maybe I should say most I don't >> >think we can get an ALL does anybody out there. Any way I posted what I >> have >> >to the My Family page if you have not seen the crest and the history of the >> >name you can go check it out, who knows you might like it.. I am not >> trying >> >to make that be the right one. I would just like for the main researchers >> and >> >the most affluent ones involved in the VICK research to come up with >> >something they can agree on and lets fly it just like we knew what we were >> >doing. >> >So what do you think guys and Girls? Wouldn't you like to check in to the >> >next Motel where the JVFOA is having the Reunion and see a nice Welcome To >> >The JVFOA banner with our family Crest and whatever on it. >> >If you don't want to do any of the stuff above vote for me in Nov. I >> promise >> >to cut your taxes and raise retirement monies add better healthcare and >> >anything else you might think of. A vote for me would make your Mama proud. >> > >> >By the way I want to thank everyone for your discussion of the Southern >> Flag >> >and the War / Slave issues. I just had a Niece come to my home wearing a >> big >> >Rebel Belt Buckle on her belt. Of course I had to ask her what that meant >> to >> >her. I want try to say all she said I will simply leave it with this. After >> >we talked about one hours she still wanted to know more. Thanks to all my >> >very intelligent cousins out there. I was able to share more information >> with >> >her about the South our Flag/ and some reasons she never learned in School. >> I >> >think she left with a true feeling of pride in her Sourthen roots. Where >> she >> >seemed to have had a little more Rebel in her thinking before we talked. >> > >> >Yours in Smiles and laughter >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Cuz;en David >> >906 W Terrace Dr >> >Plant City Fl. 33565 >> >813-659-3435 >> >Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html >> > >

Is the fee due the first of every year or one year from when you first subscribed? Di Ann Vick wrote: > Dave -- > > You're right; you are a little delinquent. Just check the mailing label on > your new Newsletter and you can figure out how much. Morgan Vick will > happily accept your check: > > S. Morgan Vick, Treasurer > Joseph Vick Family of America > 221 Rose Creek Lane > Columbia, SC 29229-8856 > > Di Ann > -----Original Message----- > From: Good2news@aol.com <Good2news@aol.com> > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:26 PM > Subject: [VICK-L] Re: Show Me The Money and Stuff > > ><< Again, thanks for the answer. Will be looking forward to the Newsletter > and > > the Book. It's a pity the JVFOA meeting won't be held in Fort Wayne again, > > though. This time I know about it and would attend. > > > > Jack Landers > > > >Dear List. > >I would like to jump in while we are talking about JVFOA and the News > Letter. > >Oh well lets through in our list as well. > >I would like to raise a little money. I am open to suggestions anything > from > >selling DiAnn at public auction to just plan old donating because it is > >needed. > >Here is what I would like to raise money for. > >1. It cost $25 per year to maintain our list on the web. It was paid last > >year by a friend of the list. It has already been spoken for this year 2000 > >by a Friend of the Vick list. However you and I both know it will come up > >year after year. How do you think we should raise the money to pay for the > >list we all enjoy so much? All put a little in the pot each year. Or take > >turns coughing up the $25 bucks by one generous sole each year as we go? > >2. The JVFOA News letter? This is the only source of income the JVFOA Inc. > >has so if you don't get the News letter but want to contribute to the cause > >just subscribe. > >They say confession is good for the soul so here goes. I am behind in my > >JVFOA dues. I don't know where to send the money. (That's my story and I am > >sticking to it.) I know it has been posted on this list but as you all know > >by now, I don't keep records. Out of sight out of mind. So if the nice man > >would be kind enough to post where our dues can be sent again I will bring > my > >delinquent account up to date. I beleive this act alone will keep JVFOA > >solvent for a few years to come.I know they are a not for profit > organization > >but it does take money to write and mail out the news letter. Well, I don't > >think it takes money for DiAnn to write she is rather small and I think a > >crust of bread from time to time should be enough... (Grin) Of course DiAnn > >knows I am just teasing her. She has done so much for so long with so > little > >I hope it never changes. (Now I am really GRINNING) > >#. lastly and I understand this one may not make the cut. Or we should talk > >about it some before we move on this one. > >I would like to have two vinyl banners made with the Vick Crest and maybe > the > >History of the Family name on it to be posted at our Annual JVFOA Reunions. > >This might even help us decide what we are going to accept as our family > >crest. Nobody seems to know what it should be now? I know there are some > >different ones out there. The History of the name? You guys know I don't > >care. I did pay an outfit to do the research for me and I have what they > came > >up with. If that is acceptable to all well maybe I should say most I don't > >think we can get an ALL does anybody out there. Any way I posted what I > have > >to the My Family page if you have not seen the crest and the history of the > >name you can go check it out, who knows you might like it.. I am not > trying > >to make that be the right one. I would just like for the main researchers > and > >the most affluent ones involved in the VICK research to come up with > >something they can agree on and lets fly it just like we knew what we were > >doing. > >So what do you think guys and Girls? Wouldn't you like to check in to the > >next Motel where the JVFOA is having the Reunion and see a nice Welcome To > >The JVFOA banner with our family Crest and whatever on it. > >If you don't want to do any of the stuff above vote for me in Nov. I > promise > >to cut your taxes and raise retirement monies add better healthcare and > >anything else you might think of. A vote for me would make your Mama proud. > > > >By the way I want to thank everyone for your discussion of the Southern > Flag > >and the War / Slave issues. I just had a Niece come to my home wearing a > big > >Rebel Belt Buckle on her belt. Of course I had to ask her what that meant > to > >her. I want try to say all she said I will simply leave it with this. After > >we talked about one hours she still wanted to know more. Thanks to all my > >very intelligent cousins out there. I was able to share more information > with > >her about the South our Flag/ and some reasons she never learned in School. > I > >think she left with a true feeling of pride in her Sourthen roots. Where > she > >seemed to have had a little more Rebel in her thinking before we talked. > > > >Yours in Smiles and laughter > > > > > > > > > >Cuz;en David > >906 W Terrace Dr > >Plant City Fl. 33565 > >813-659-3435 > >Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html > >

Dave -- You're right; you are a little delinquent. Just check the mailing label on your new Newsletter and you can figure out how much. Morgan Vick will happily accept your check: S. Morgan Vick, Treasurer Joseph Vick Family of America 221 Rose Creek Lane Columbia, SC 29229-8856 Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: Good2news@aol.com <Good2news@aol.com> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:26 PM Subject: [VICK-L] Re: Show Me The Money and Stuff ><< Again, thanks for the answer. Will be looking forward to the Newsletter and > the Book. It's a pity the JVFOA meeting won't be held in Fort Wayne again, > though. This time I know about it and would attend. > > Jack Landers > >Dear List. >I would like to jump in while we are talking about JVFOA and the News Letter. >Oh well lets through in our list as well. >I would like to raise a little money. I am open to suggestions anything from >selling DiAnn at public auction to just plan old donating because it is >needed. >Here is what I would like to raise money for. >1. It cost $25 per year to maintain our list on the web. It was paid last >year by a friend of the list. It has already been spoken for this year 2000 >by a Friend of the Vick list. However you and I both know it will come up >year after year. How do you think we should raise the money to pay for the >list we all enjoy so much? All put a little in the pot each year. Or take >turns coughing up the $25 bucks by one generous sole each year as we go? >2. The JVFOA News letter? This is the only source of income the JVFOA Inc. >has so if you don't get the News letter but want to contribute to the cause >just subscribe. >They say confession is good for the soul so here goes. I am behind in my >JVFOA dues. I don't know where to send the money. (That's my story and I am >sticking to it.) I know it has been posted on this list but as you all know >by now, I don't keep records. Out of sight out of mind. So if the nice man >would be kind enough to post where our dues can be sent again I will bring my >delinquent account up to date. I beleive this act alone will keep JVFOA >solvent for a few years to come.I know they are a not for profit organization >but it does take money to write and mail out the news letter. Well, I don't >think it takes money for DiAnn to write she is rather small and I think a >crust of bread from time to time should be enough... (Grin) Of course DiAnn >knows I am just teasing her. She has done so much for so long with so little >I hope it never changes. (Now I am really GRINNING) >#. lastly and I understand this one may not make the cut. Or we should talk >about it some before we move on this one. >I would like to have two vinyl banners made with the Vick Crest and maybe the >History of the Family name on it to be posted at our Annual JVFOA Reunions. >This might even help us decide what we are going to accept as our family >crest. Nobody seems to know what it should be now? I know there are some >different ones out there. The History of the name? You guys know I don't >care. I did pay an outfit to do the research for me and I have what they came >up with. If that is acceptable to all well maybe I should say most I don't >think we can get an ALL does anybody out there. Any way I posted what I have >to the My Family page if you have not seen the crest and the history of the >name you can go check it out, who knows you might like it.. I am not trying >to make that be the right one. I would just like for the main researchers and >the most affluent ones involved in the VICK research to come up with >something they can agree on and lets fly it just like we knew what we were >doing. >So what do you think guys and Girls? Wouldn't you like to check in to the >next Motel where the JVFOA is having the Reunion and see a nice Welcome To >The JVFOA banner with our family Crest and whatever on it. >If you don't want to do any of the stuff above vote for me in Nov. I promise >to cut your taxes and raise retirement monies add better healthcare and >anything else you might think of. A vote for me would make your Mama proud. > >By the way I want to thank everyone for your discussion of the Southern Flag >and the War / Slave issues. I just had a Niece come to my home wearing a big >Rebel Belt Buckle on her belt. Of course I had to ask her what that meant to >her. I want try to say all she said I will simply leave it with this. After >we talked about one hours she still wanted to know more. Thanks to all my >very intelligent cousins out there. I was able to share more information with >her about the South our Flag/ and some reasons she never learned in School. I >think she left with a true feeling of pride in her Sourthen roots. Where she >seemed to have had a little more Rebel in her thinking before we talked. > >Yours in Smiles and laughter > > > > >Cuz;en David >906 W Terrace Dr >Plant City Fl. 33565 >813-659-3435 >Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html >

Faye -- That is really nice of you. Only one other person has offered to send even a self-addressed stamped envelope. You can't imagine how often I get requests for information, "send everything you have on ..." without so much as a thought of the time (and cost) of printing, copying or mailing. My snail mail address is: Di Ann Vick 2436 Meredith St. Philadelphia, PA 19130-2522 Thanks, again! Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: Pugthree@aol.com <Pugthree@aol.com> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [VICK-L] England search >If you will send me your address I will send a couple of dollars for your >postage. >Faye > >

Good afternoon David and the list, Re your post .."I would like to raise money for".... 1) The $25 per year sounds like a small amount to start raising or collecting money to place in the bank, so I for one am willing to pay the $25 occasionally. 2) As for the banner or any other paraphernalia for the JVFOA Reunions I don't mine donating for such, but the cost should be routed through the JVFOA account. OK? Just wanted to let you know that I do read your messages. Ha. Jim Vick Verona, Italy

DiAAnn I will put it in the mail today. I know coping etc is not cheap. Faye

Hi, We are wired directly to the komputors. Morgan -----Original Message----- From: Good2news@aol.com <Good2news@aol.com> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 8:38 PM Subject: [VICK-L] Re: Too Slow >Okay everybody DiAnn already answered some and posted where to send my dues. >How do you guys do this stuff so fast. >

Hello One and All, So you want to become a member of the JVFOA? And you don't know what that stands for, well, just follow my instructions and become another enlighted member of THE Family. And for those of you who know JVFOA, et al, just send your $20.00 annual membership dues to: S. Morgan Vick 221 Rose Creek Land Columbia, SC 29229 For those who have that urge to chat one to one you can contact me at: (803) 865-0077. And if you just happen to be in Columbia, SC we will have a chat face to face, over coffee - just call. Now don't be bashful nor hide in the closet because you forgot to send in your annual dues. The Family has decided to dispense with the use of the rack and other methods of reminding one and all of their Family connection. And in all seriousness I would love to meet each and every one of my relatives. And at my age I would prefer it be sooner than later. Yours, Morgan Vick

Di Ann, Would it be easier on you to just add it to the next newsletter? Doris ---------- > From: Di Ann Vick <davick@bellatlantic.net> > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:00 AM > > Dallas -- > > I will need your snail mail address. Please send it to me > privately:davick@bellatlantic.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Dallas T Ebest <debest@express-news.net> > To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VICK-L] Joseph Vick Chronology > > > > > > > >Di Ann Vick wrote: > > > >> OK folks, I will happily send my chronology of Joseph Vick to each of > you. It is 3-4 pages printed out and is a documented listing of what I have > found on Joseph Vick the emigrant (or immigrant) depending on your > geographic preference. All I ask is that you let me know if you have > additional information. Any additional information will be reported in the > Vick Newsletter and I will add it to the chronology. > >> > >> You may wonder why I put so much stock in the Newsletter (other than the > obvious fact that I am its editor) and this is my reason: all major > genealogical collections and state archives receive it and thus it is a > major resource for anyone researching the Vick family at those locations. > >> > >> Thanks for your help and interest, > >> > >> Di Ann > > > >Di Ann . I would appreciate a copy... thanks Dallas Ebest > > >

Okay everybody DiAnn already answered some and posted where to send my dues. How do you guys do this stuff so fast.

In a message dated 2/21/2000 2:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, djmoore@nb.net writes: << Di Ann, Would it be easier on you to just add it to the next newsletter? Doris >> By Jove Doris I think you have something there. Nice call. Cuz;en David 906 W Terrace Dr Plant City Fl. 33565 813-659-3435 Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html

<< Again, thanks for the answer. Will be looking forward to the Newsletter and the Book. It's a pity the JVFOA meeting won't be held in Fort Wayne again, though. This time I know about it and would attend. Jack Landers Dear List. I would like to jump in while we are talking about JVFOA and the News Letter. Oh well lets through in our list as well. I would like to raise a little money. I am open to suggestions anything from selling DiAnn at public auction to just plan old donating because it is needed. Here is what I would like to raise money for. 1. It cost $25 per year to maintain our list on the web. It was paid last year by a friend of the list. It has already been spoken for this year 2000 by a Friend of the Vick list. However you and I both know it will come up year after year. How do you think we should raise the money to pay for the list we all enjoy so much? All put a little in the pot each year. Or take turns coughing up the $25 bucks by one generous sole each year as we go? 2. The JVFOA News letter? This is the only source of income the JVFOA Inc. has so if you don't get the News letter but want to contribute to the cause just subscribe. They say confession is good for the soul so here goes. I am behind in my JVFOA dues. I don't know where to send the money. (That's my story and I am sticking to it.) I know it has been posted on this list but as you all know by now, I don't keep records. Out of sight out of mind. So if the nice man would be kind enough to post where our dues can be sent again I will bring my delinquent account up to date. I beleive this act alone will keep JVFOA solvent for a few years to come.I know they are a not for profit organization but it does take money to write and mail out the news letter. Well, I don't think it takes money for DiAnn to write she is rather small and I think a crust of bread from time to time should be enough... (Grin) Of course DiAnn knows I am just teasing her. She has done so much for so long with so little I hope it never changes. (Now I am really GRINNING) #. lastly and I understand this one may not make the cut. Or we should talk about it some before we move on this one. I would like to have two vinyl banners made with the Vick Crest and maybe the History of the Family name on it to be posted at our Annual JVFOA Reunions. This might even help us decide what we are going to accept as our family crest. Nobody seems to know what it should be now? I know there are some different ones out there. The History of the name? You guys know I don't care. I did pay an outfit to do the research for me and I have what they came up with. If that is acceptable to all well maybe I should say most I don't think we can get an ALL does anybody out there. Any way I posted what I have to the My Family page if you have not seen the crest and the history of the name you can go check it out, who knows you might like it.. I am not trying to make that be the right one. I would just like for the main researchers and the most affluent ones involved in the VICK research to come up with something they can agree on and lets fly it just like we knew what we were doing. So what do you think guys and Girls? Wouldn't you like to check in to the next Motel where the JVFOA is having the Reunion and see a nice Welcome To The JVFOA banner with our family Crest and whatever on it. If you don't want to do any of the stuff above vote for me in Nov. I promise to cut your taxes and raise retirement monies add better healthcare and anything else you might think of. A vote for me would make your Mama proud. By the way I want to thank everyone for your discussion of the Southern Flag and the War / Slave issues. I just had a Niece come to my home wearing a big Rebel Belt Buckle on her belt. Of course I had to ask her what that meant to her. I want try to say all she said I will simply leave it with this. After we talked about one hours she still wanted to know more. Thanks to all my very intelligent cousins out there. I was able to share more information with her about the South our Flag/ and some reasons she never learned in School. I think she left with a true feeling of pride in her Sourthen roots. Where she seemed to have had a little more Rebel in her thinking before we talked. Yours in Smiles and laughter Cuz;en David 906 W Terrace Dr Plant City Fl. 33565 813-659-3435 Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html