Oops. I should have read all of the e-mail. I was gone yesterday for a test so missed that one. Don't guess it's the same William J. Vick. Faye

DiAnn: Can you tell me more about William J. Vick. I have a William J. living in La. but I don't know where he belongs. Most of them did go to Texas at some pointin time. maybe this is the same William J.??????/ faye

<< Hey, Nancy, we'll claim you!! Doris >> Dear Nancy & List: If my vote counts your in!!!!! We need all the good folks we can get. With all that stuff after your name sounds like we finally got a little education in the Vick bunch. Welcome! We lost my first cousin from Daytona Beach over some Point in History. She found the LSD church records where Lucy Council was listed as Married to our Joseph #1. Or it was a logical concision to think that. Now don't anybody get your panties in a bunch I don't want to start a war out there. Anyway I guess it will be coming out in the book soon enough that we don't know who he was married to but we have discounted Lucy. I know DiAnn sites her/There reasons for this postion and I am not trying to make her defend her postion again ,now. I am sure it will be clear to all of us when the book comes out. Anyway I said all that to say Nancy don't worry be Happy. They aren't sure if Joseph was a Vick at this point.... Tee Hee One thing I know for sure. If you go back far enough we are all related so enjoy each other you may have to put up with them for ENTIRETY. Kiked back In The "Sonshine" of Life. Cuz;en David 906 W Terrace Dr Plant City Fl. 33565 813-659-3435 Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html Cuz;en David 906 W Terrace Dr Plant City Fl. 33565 813-659-3435 Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html

Trudy: Congratulations Faye

Has the date been set for the VICK FAMILY Reunion in Portsmouth? Nancy Vick (not a "real Vick", I was told) ____________________________________________________________________________ __________ Dr. Nancy Harper Vick, Professor Emerita of Education, Longwood College;1703 Gilliam Drive, Farmville, VA 23901-2359 Phone: 804-392-8359; Family Histories: Harper, McLean, Smith(VA-NC),Hollingsworth,Fountain, Snow, Gibson,Vick & Taylor

Anita: I just realized that your last name was Wells!!!! Are you from the Russellville Arkansas (Samuel was the patriarch) branch where the Vick married the Wells. The Wells had a store in Russellville. I believe some sons later moved to Plano TX. Get back to me off list at zana-vg@worldnet.att.net. There are a bunch of us Russellville Vick descendants who keep in touch and exchange information. suzanne golladay

David...please don't use the one (crest) I sent you. If was only to show what shoddy junk was being passed on some years ago on unsuspecting roots searchers. suzanne g

Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.47] WESTERN BRANCH MONTHLY MEETING (also called Lower and, infrequently, Buskin's Monthly Meeting) The surviving record under the specific name of Western Branch Monthly Meeting begins 1767 (though there is one item for 1766) and it continues until 1771. Pages from both the front and back of this book are torn out. There is one other record book for the years 1806-1823. In 1767 William Eley was clerk of the meeting and we can easily determine the names of the male members by referring to the military exemption listed dated this same year. The families of Eley, Jordan, Copeland, Randolph, Trotter, Outland, Porter, Draper, Lawrence, Pretlow, Johnson, Denson, Vick and Ricks were among the more prominent in the meeting. The years 1767 to 1771 passed without unusual events while the critical difficulties were encountered. In January 1813 the members of the monthly meeting raised relief funds for the aid of their companions and their families “who suffer under the militia law” … or “are carried off in the militia”. The fines and seizures were heavy during this period and in March 1813 it was reported that “many members (were) … being ordered out in militia”. Even further, in the same month “on the 17th of the 3rd three young men were taken and carried into the Army in or near Portsmouth and for refusing to bear arms they were by orders of Colonel Francis M. Boykin confined in a dungeon about 48 hours and are still detained in the Army”. William Copeland, son of Elisha, is the only one of these three martyrs mentioned by name. Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1818, 5, 23. Patience (now Vick) disowned Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1818, 7, 25. Robert retired as overseer; Thomas Fanning chosen Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1818, 10, 24. James received by request & referred to care of Vick's particular or preparative meeting Footnote marry married marrying marriage Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1819, 10, 23. Joseph granted certificate to Cedar Creek monthly meeting, Va., to marry Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1819, 10, 23. Christian received recommended a minister Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1820, 4, 22. Robert Jr. fined for not attending musters for yr 1819; collected by deputy sheriff of Nansemond Co., Va., Joseph Denson Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1820, 6, 24. Jacob reinstate reinstated & referred to care of Vicks particular or preparative meeting Footnote disowned disowned for Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1821, 3, 24. Robert W. disowned married contrary to discipline [p.51] RECORDS Vick Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1767, 4, 25. Jacob & Richard suffered seizure of property for priest's demands; first time name appeared Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1767, 4, 25. Jacob asked advice of monthly meeting concerning a law suit lately commenced against him Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1767, 7, 25. Jacob, Southampton Co., Va., granted certificate efms Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1767, 7, 25. Jacob Jr., Southampton Co., Va., granted certificate efms Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1767, 7, 25. Jessey, Southampton Co., Va., granted certificate efms Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1769, 2, 25. Jesse granted certificate to Rich Square monthly meeting, Northampton Co., N. C. (clearness with respect to marriage) Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1769, 7, 22. Jacob request requests requested that the meeting usually held at the widow West's, be remove removed to Jesse Vick's; mafter deferred Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy: Virginia [p.51] RECORDS 1769, 8, 26. Jacob Jr., this monthly meeting was informed that “the Frs over Notiway (River) have fixed on Jacob Vick's Jr. for the holding of their meeting usually held at Ann West's; monthly meeting agreed Footnote former formerly Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. 6 Bob K Vick

Don't claim to be a Heraldry expert, but, if I understand what little I know about it at all, there are a couple of things to consider. 1) Isn't the right to bear the arms (Crest, Coat of Arms, etc.) limited to the oldest son who bears the name? 2) Aren't only those who "bear the name" (i.e. whose name is really Vick), entitled to a voice in any discussion about it. In other words, wouldn't it be out of place for any one with the surname of "Landers" for example, to actively enter any such discussion? If you want to talk about the "Landers" crest, Coat of Arms, etc., that's another story. As Di Ann said, hate to sound stuffy about this, but some things have to be done in the proper manner, or we all tend to lose perspective. Personally, I'll voice an opinion on such things Only If You Drag It Out Of Me. It's your party, and while I may support whatever you do financially or in other ways, IT IS YOUR DECISION TO MAKE. As the fellow says, "That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!" Jack Landers

Double Dittoes. Jack Landers "ANITA WELLS" wrote: > Congratulations. NITA > > "T. J. Vick Phillips" wrote: > > > > My fourth grandchild!!!! > > Emily Grace Phillips born Sat. Feb. 19, 2000 > > Healthy & beautiful (of course!!) > > What a blessing!! > > Trudy Vick Phillips > >

Congratulations! I know your buttons are poppin'. Di Ann -----Original Message----- From: T. J. Vick Phillips <map@uswest.net> To: VICK-L@rootsweb.com <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: [VICK-L] Vick Chat: Addition to our branch. >My fourth grandchild!!!! >Emily Grace Phillips born Sat. Feb. 19, 2000 >Healthy & beautiful (of course!!) >What a blessing!! >Trudy Vick Phillips > >

Hi Di Ann, Dave, and list, Thanks Di Ann I was about to say somthing along that line. As I recall the crest on the Vick MyFamily site is German. And of course we insist that Joseph came from England. Just a thought. Jim Vick Verona, Italy ----- Original Message ----- From: Di Ann Vick <davick@bellatlantic.net> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: [VICK-L] Vick Crest > Gosh, Dave -- > > Sometimes you force me to be a stuffy, dusty pedant and this is one of those times. Technically, arms (crests) are granted to individuals and their heirs (if merited), not whole families. I have seen three crests granted to Vicks: one is German, one seems to be French, and the third is English. A lot of "genealogists" out to make a buck, send out these crests to people with the same surname and say that this is the "[insert surname] Family Crest." And they are making a fair amount of money this way. > > Now, we can contact the Royal College of Arms in England and find a crest granted to a Vick and use that as a banner OR some talented Vick here could create a design that we Vicks could adopt as our own family symbol. Crests were intended to identify knights and their followers on the battlefield -- we could create a symbol that would be our rallying point through family and friendship. > > That's my dust for the day. > > Di Ann >

Hi Di Ann, Dave and list, Thanks Di Ann I was about to say somthing along that line. I fact the crest posted on the MyFamily Vick site is German as I recall. Jim Vick Verona, Italy ----- Original Message ----- From: Di Ann Vick <davick@bellatlantic.net> To: <VICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: [VICK-L] Vick Crest > Gosh, Dave -- > > Sometimes you force me to be a stuffy, dusty pedant and this is one of those times. Technically, arms (crests) are granted to individuals and their heirs (if merited), not whole families. I have seen three crests granted to Vicks: one is German, one seems to be French, and the third is English. A lot of "genealogists" out to make a buck, send out these crests to people with the same surname and say that this is the "[insert surname] Family Crest." And they are making a fair amount of money this way. > > Now, we can contact the Royal College of Arms in England and find a crest granted to a Vick and use that as a banner OR some talented Vick here could create a design that we Vicks could adopt as our own family symbol. Crests were intended to identify knights and their followers on the battlefield -- we could create a symbol that would be our rallying point through family and friendship. > > That's my dust for the day. > > Di Ann >

Congratulations. NITA "T. J. Vick Phillips" wrote: > > My fourth grandchild!!!! > Emily Grace Phillips born Sat. Feb. 19, 2000 > Healthy & beautiful (of course!!) > What a blessing!! > Trudy Vick Phillips

My fourth grandchild!!!! Emily Grace Phillips born Sat. Feb. 19, 2000 Healthy & beautiful (of course!!) What a blessing!! Trudy Vick Phillips

Mine, too. Trudy Pugthree@aol.com wrote: > DiAnn > Sorry: > My self addressed stamped envelope was mailed yesterday. > Faye

I'm researching: William J. VICK (Stephen, Jacob, Isaac, William, Joseph) b. January 10, 1818 m. June 26, 1830, Sarah Taylor PARKER in Jefferson Co., IL; b. April 28, 1820, d. 1856 d. October 22, 1856 Children: Mary Susan VICK b. May 14, 1840, in Muhlenberg Co., KY Arrived in Texas in 1856 both parents died in 1856 1860 Census Collin Co., Texas under the household of Rufus GODWIN m. February 27, 1861, to Ira WHEELAND in Collin Co., Texas m. March 3, 1863, to George Washington PARKER in Denton Co., Texas; b. 1840 in Mount Vernon, Jefferson Co., IL d. April 27, 1881, in Denton Co., Texas 1870 Census Denton Co., Texas 1880 Census Denton Co., Texas d. July 6, 1924 in Grayson Co., Texas Zarelda M. VICK b. 1843 in Muhlenberg Co., KY Margaret A. VICK b. 1845 in Muhlenberg Co., KY m. August 22, 1869 to Thomas T. FERRIS in Fannin Co., Texas Luther Franklin VICK b. July 1850 in Muhlenberg Co., KY 1860 Census Hunt Co., Texas in the household of Alexander CRISP m. February 29, 1879 Susan A. STRINGFELLOW in Hopkins Co., Texas S. Benjamin (or Bingham) VICK b. 1856 in AR (?) 1860 Census Fannin Co., Texas under the household of Thomas O. TRIPLETT m. January 5, 1876 Millie Garrett in Hunt Co., Texas Any help would be much appreciated! Kristi Hornsby McKinney, Texas

Gosh, Dave -- Sometimes you force me to be a stuffy, dusty pedant and this is one of those times. Technically, arms (crests) are granted to individuals and their heirs (if merited), not whole families. I have seen three crests granted to Vicks: one is German, one seems to be French, and the third is English. A lot of "genealogists" out to make a buck, send out these crests to people with the same surname and say that this is the "[insert surname] Family Crest." And they are making a fair amount of money this way. Now, we can contact the Royal College of Arms in England and find a crest granted to a Vick and use that as a banner OR some talented Vick here could create a design that we Vicks could adopt as our own family symbol. Crests were intended to identify knights and their followers on the battlefield -- we could create a symbol that would be our rallying point through family and friendship. That's my dust for the day. Di Ann

Now we are getting somewhere. Thanks for the insight DiAnn of course I already knew there were two or three Crest bring passed around. I don't care witch one we adopt. I thought it would be nice if we could agree on one. It would look nice and like you say could be a rally point just in case a joust were to come our way. I was hoping there would be a bit more interest shone in the Crest, Hmmm I guess the rest just don't care as long as we call them for supper. If you have any input on this subject let'er fly. If not I am going to claim that my crest is the real thing. Not the only one but what the heck. I really don't know why this issue was not settled a long time ago. I know all the great researchers from JVFOA have been doing this stuff for a long time. Now that we have some order wouldn't it be nice if we could make a decision on a question placed before us/them who ever it is that would make such a decision. Hmmm wonder who that would be. I know let's place the question to the board of the JVFOA and let them come up with the answer. That would make it easy then all we would have to do is amen whatever they come up with. I nominate DiAnn to pose the question to the JVFOA board. All in favor say "I" Sit down DiAnn you are out of order. You have been duly nominated and I know everybody said "I" so your it. Let us know how things turn out. When they come up with something I will have a couple of Banners done, I know everybody will be proud of. We can send them to where ever the reunion is going to be help each year to be displayed. In The Spirit Of Success Cuz;en David 906 W Terrace Dr Plant City Fl. 33565 813-659-3435 Http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Interview/4893/index.html

Let's not forget that not everyone on the list belongs to JVOFA and by the same token not everyone in JVOFA is on the internet. This list is open to anyone who is interested in the Vick name whether their ancestor was Joseph or not....keep in mind these lists are worldwide. I am personally a member of JVOFA; just wanted to remind everyone that not all subscribers to the list belong to it. Thanks for listening!! Doris Moore djmoore@nb.net Proud sponsor of Rootsweb