Good Morning, Via Group!!! The Miller book was printed about 1907. William Miller made several trips to Albemarle County working on his book. He also made trips to Tennessee, all by train to gather information. He interview many decendants of the Maupin family and various other families covered in the book. Over the thirty years I have worked on the Maupins I have been told by several descendants about William Miller contacting their family by mail requestion famly data. If you will notice in Miller's book most data is give without dates. I can tell you that William Miller was very careful not to embarrass any members of the family by including data that might reflect badly on specific people. Dr. Socrates Maupin was the first genealogist in the Maupin family. He started about 1830 and worked until his death in 1871. In 1837 he drew up the first Maupin Family Tree on a large sheet and it from this that we know basically the first four generations of the Maupin line. Dr. Socrates Maupin's papers are at the Alderman Library in Charlottesville. For many years apparently these papers circulated by mail to various family members. This was at a time when copiers were not available. Many of the pages disappeared and the remaining pages were donated to Alderman by Dr. Socrates Maupin, Grandaughter, I believe. Dorothy Maupin Shaffett was given the original copy of the family chart, which she has now given to the Alderman Library also. I will ask Dorothy the next time I talk with her if she ever knew where the "Forester" story came from. The most likely source is the Maupin of Norfolk area of Virginia, Gabriel, II's Line. It is this line that first made public the story of Marie Hersent being Mary Spencer of England, of Royal ancestry. This is, we now know, untrue. There were 500 copies of William H. Miller's book printed. Most were bount in a green cover and a few were brown leather bound. I have probabaly seen over 30 copies of this book in the past thirty years. I was reprinted once by a publisher out of Ohio. If a third printing was done I have not hear of it. For those of you who would like to read the Miller book, I know of only one circulating copy. This copy, a second copy, is at the Waynesboro Public Library in Waynesboro, Virginia. While I living in White Hall I checked it out many many times. It is available through inter-library loan and if you will check you local library they can probably order it for you. Since I had dismissed the story of the Via's working for the Maupins in France I cannot honestly tell you if it is in Millers book. But as I said I will ask Dorothy and see if she knows its origin. The Boyce Miller book, of which there is a copy in Standardsville, Greene County, VA I have read. There is information taken from Dr. Socrates Maupin notes that must have been taken before the documents were given to Alderman, because this data is not in the current copy of the notes. As I said people removed pages over the years and the remainder are at Alderman Library, Charlottesville. If anyone has additional questions concerning the above please post your questions and I will try and answer them or refer you to someone who can. William Albertson [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jewell Via Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info >Judy and All. The pages I sent re :Robert Miller are numbered 684---690. >7 pages >There are Notes listing desire for information on certain individuals >includes two children of Robert Miller Jr. and Margaret Maupin. >Note. Descendents of Robert 1 and Ann Lynn and Daniel Miller son of Robert >Jr. and Margaret Maupin are most admirably traced by Mr. William Harris >Miller of Richmond, Kentucky which is entitled "History and Genealogies" >Therefore the descendents of John and Daniel who emigrated to Kentucky are >not treated in this text. BOYCE MILLER >Jewell >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:49 PM >Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info > > >> In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> >> > <<I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon >later? >> > >> >> >> Edna, >> No telling if it was the original source of this info or not. But we know >> info is embellished at it goes on although this story is still told the >same. >> So maybe it's just being repeated over and over. >> >> > << When was the Miller book published? >> >> > I don't know when it was published or if this article appeared in some >> > other book. The only thing I can find for a reference is that it was >> > printed in the William and Mary Journal, Series 2, Volume 13, No. 1, pg >> > 39-45 but no date is given. >> > >> > If anyone has access to these journals it would be great to see what if >any >> > sources Miller cites.... >> > >> > Judy >> >> >> >> > >

I don't want to sound ignorant, but Marie Spencer was not the wife of Gabriel Maupin? I have not researched this line as much as I should have. I received the name of Marie Spencer, daughter of an Earl Spencer from an article on the Maupin Family by W. G. Stanard. I would like to mention that the W H Miller book "Histories and Genealogies" is available in pdf format as part of the Family & Local Histories collection at Genealogy.com Did Boyce Miller also write a book on the Miller family? I have a copy of his journal article, but had not heard of the book. Thanks, Michele -----Original Message----- From: Maupin Reunion [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info Good Morning, Via Group!!! The Miller book was printed about 1907. William Miller made several trips to Albemarle County working on his book. He also made trips to Tennessee, all by train to gather information. He interview many decendants of the Maupin family and various other families covered in the book. Over the thirty years I have worked on the Maupins I have been told by several descendants about William Miller contacting their family by mail requestion famly data. If you will notice in Miller's book most data is give without dates. I can tell you that William Miller was very careful not to embarrass any members of the family by including data that might reflect badly on specific people. Dr. Socrates Maupin was the first genealogist in the Maupin family. He started about 1830 and worked until his death in 1871. In 1837 he drew up the first Maupin Family Tree on a large sheet and it from this that we know basically the first four generations of the Maupin line. Dr. Socrates Maupin's papers are at the Alderman Library in Charlottesville. For many years apparently these papers circulated by mail to various family members. This was at a time when copiers were not available. Many of the pages disappeared and the remaining pages were donated to Alderman by Dr. Socrates Maupin, Grandaughter, I believe. Dorothy Maupin Shaffett was given the original copy of the family chart, which she has now given to the Alderman Library also. I will ask Dorothy the next time I talk with her if she ever knew where the "Forester" story came from. The most likely source is the Maupin of Norfolk area of Virginia, Gabriel, II's Line. It is this line that first made public the story of Marie Hersent being Mary Spencer of England, of Royal ancestry. This is, we now know, untrue. There were 500 copies of William H. Miller's book printed. Most were bount in a green cover and a few were brown leather bound. I have probabaly seen over 30 copies of this book in the past thirty years. I was reprinted once by a publisher out of Ohio. If a third printing was done I have not hear of it. For those of you who would like to read the Miller book, I know of only one circulating copy. This copy, a second copy, is at the Waynesboro Public Library in Waynesboro, Virginia. While I living in White Hall I checked it out many many times. It is available through inter-library loan and if you will check you local library they can probably order it for you. Since I had dismissed the story of the Via's working for the Maupins in France I cannot honestly tell you if it is in Millers book. But as I said I will ask Dorothy and see if she knows its origin. The Boyce Miller book, of which there is a copy in Standardsville, Greene County, VA I have read. There is information taken from Dr. Socrates Maupin notes that must have been taken before the documents were given to Alderman, because this data is not in the current copy of the notes. As I said people removed pages over the years and the remainder are at Alderman Library, Charlottesville. If anyone has additional questions concerning the above please post your questions and I will try and answer them or refer you to someone who can. William Albertson [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jewell Via Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info >Judy and All. The pages I sent re :Robert Miller are numbered 684---690. >7 pages >There are Notes listing desire for information on certain individuals >includes two children of Robert Miller Jr. and Margaret Maupin. >Note. Descendents of Robert 1 and Ann Lynn and Daniel Miller son of Robert >Jr. and Margaret Maupin are most admirably traced by Mr. William Harris >Miller of Richmond, Kentucky which is entitled "History and Genealogies" >Therefore the descendents of John and Daniel who emigrated to Kentucky are >not treated in this text. BOYCE MILLER >Jewell >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:49 PM >Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info > > >> In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> >> > <<I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon >later? >> > >> >> >> Edna, >> No telling if it was the original source of this info or not. But we know >> info is embellished at it goes on although this story is still told the >same. >> So maybe it's just being repeated over and over. >> >> > << When was the Miller book published? >> >> > I don't know when it was published or if this article appeared in some >> > other book. The only thing I can find for a reference is that it was >> > printed in the William and Mary Journal, Series 2, Volume 13, No. 1, pg >> > 39-45 but no date is given. >> > >> > If anyone has access to these journals it would be great to see what if >any >> > sources Miller cites.... >> > >> > Judy >> >> >> >> > >