In a message dated 12/12/2002 8:59:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > <Thank you so much for posting Fanny Ann Via's Patrick County deed > and will.>> Janelle, You're very welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed seeing them. <<> few Ingrams that I have been able to locate in Hanover during > our time frame, but I believe there were some in Henrico. Do you know > where brother, James, was before he locates in Patrick? >> Unfortunately I don't know where he was prior to Patrick County and do not have any info on his and Fanny's parents. However I suspect that Sarah Ingram was their mother. In a book I have The Personal Property Tax Lists for the Year 1787 for Hanover County, Virginia, by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florene Speakman Love, Genealogical Books in Print, Springfield, Virginia, 1987, there is a Sarah Ingram. This book is sorted 1st alphabetically by last name and then by date when the families were visited which gives us an idea of their neighbors. Alphabetically Sarah Ingram is listed on page 980 as Sarah Ingram, self, 0 0 1 1 3 - not tithable. According to dates of visitation she is listed on page 993 for visits on April 30, 1787. Others listed on the same date in order visited are: Sarah Ingram, Robt Via Sr, and Clauduius Viall. This would tend to make me think Sarah being not tithable she was elderly and living close or next door to Robert Via Sr that this was most likely Fanny Ann's mother. There are two other Ingrams listed in this tax list; Anthony and John. Anthony and John Ingram are listed next door to each other and their household was visited on April 13, 1787 quite some time before they got to the area of Sarah Ingram. > << I know Robert, Jr. came away with all of Robert's 128 acres in > Hanover. >> I sure wish there was a way to trace that 128 acres backwards. I've often wondered if Robert got that land from Thomas Lightfoot, Thomas Gibson, Henry Crompton, or Major Nicholas Meriwether. Our only hope of knowing if that's where he got it is if the seller of the land was in another county where the deed might also show up or if the land was left to him by his father-in-law. The reason I wonder if he got the land from one of the above individuals is due to the info in the Vestry Book of St. Pauls Parish, page 260 when Robert's land was processioned...."In Obedience to the within Order, we the Subscribers, withthe within mentioned persons excepting Thos Lightfoot, Thos Gibson, HenryCrompton, Majr Nicho Meriwether in lieu of whom were Hen: Kerby, Geo: Barker,Henry Crompton Junr, & Robt Via, & with them have peaceably and quietlyProcessiond the within mentiond Land accordingly Jan 17 1719 <<> Have you access to or have you copy of an autobiographical sketch written > by > George W. Via of Patrick County in which he says his grandfather, William > Via, married Sallie Ingram (is this Elizabeth with an unusual pet name), > who > was the daughter of James Ingram (wife not known) who lived "near old Union > Church on Smith River?">> Yes, I have seen this information. And two thoughts on the subject. Either George W. Via confused a little of the information or he just didn't want to talk about certain subjects. William Via married an Elizabeth Ingram. Her father James Ingram refers to her as Elizabeth Ingram in his will " I give to my daughter ELIZABETH VIA one negro girl named Nan also one negro boy named Sam" and her marriage bond lists her as Elizabeth Ingram. Know all men by these present, that we William Via, Islam Hamby, & Alexander Ingram are held and firmly bound unto James Monroe Governor & chief magistrate of the commonwealth of Virginia, in the sum of one hundred and fifty Dollars, to which payment well and truly to be made to the said Governor, and his successors, for the use of the commonealth, we bind ourselves, and each of us, and each of our heirs, executors, and administrators, jointly and severally, firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals, and dated this 31st day of May Anno Domini, one thousand eight hundred seven and in the XXIV year of the Commonwealth. The condition of this obligation is such, that whereas there is a marriage intended shortly to be had and solemnized between the above bound Wm Via & Elisabeth Ingram. Now if there is no lawful cause to obstruct the said marriage, then this obligation to be void, else to remain in full force and virtue. Sealed and delivered William Via (seal) in the presence of J Hamby (seal) Alexander Ingram (seal) Samuel Staples > The Elizabeth Ingram who married William Via was the daughter of James > Ingram and Martha ___. William of course the son of Robert Via and Fanny > Ann Ingram. This James would have been of the same generation as Fanny Ann > but I cannot seem to place him as the brother of Fanny Ann. Seems like > they would have been brother and sister and that William and Elizabeth 1st > cousins but apparently this is not the same James. James was the son of > Alexander Ingram. Alexander Ingram wrote his will in 1780 and it was > proven in court in 1783 in Botetourt County. He does not name Fanny Ann if > in fact she were his daughter so maybe there were more than two James > Ingrams in Patrick County of about the same age. > > Judy