In a message dated 5/22/2006 8:36:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, Janvm1030@aol.com writes: I can't imagine why Edward and Harrison were listed in the 1860 Albemarle Janelle, Thank you so much for your information. Edward and Harrison were in the 1860 Albemarle Co., Virginia census in the household of James H. Via. They were not in the 1850 Albemarle Co. census with James H. Via. Also in this household was a Vaughn. That might give us another clue. J.H. Via 35 Master coach maker Virginia Mary Via 26 Virginia Lyman Via 13 Virginia Geo. Via 12 Virginia Harrison Via 18 App coach maker Virginia Edward Via 17 App coach maker Virginia C.E. Vaughn 22 Jun. coach maker Virginia I hope the formatting holds and you can read this census record. Maybe Harrison and Edward went to Albemarle to learn the coach making business from James H. Via. Seems like there should be some relationship between Harrison, Edward, and James H. Via. I wonder if James H. Via was the son of David Via and Nancy "Ann" Bunt. David I believe was the son of Edmund Via. David and Ann were married 4 Feb 1821. David died July 1850. The first child I have listed for David and Ann was John born about 1828. So if James H. according to census records was born about about 1825 he could have belonged to this family. Hopefully I can find the marriage record for James H. and Alice Toole. I've looked through the Albemarle Co. death records and do not find a death record for James H. Thank you for the help. Judy