I believe that I got into a discussion a year or so ago about the name of Willie Jackson Via, grandson of Carter Via, son of Andrew Jackson Via and brother to my grandfather, Walter Turner Via. It was disputed by several that Willie's name was actually William based on the TYPED certified copy of birth certificate from the Virginia Bureau of Vital Stats that was typed a century or so AFTER the fact, but just as Helen Stogdale reports that she has microfilm copy of the ORIGINAL HANDWRITTEN one listing Margaret as mother of James H. Via, I, too, have microfilm copy of the ORIGINAL HANDWRITTEN one stating the name of Willie Jackson Via was Willie, NOT William. Willie was not uncommon for the period. Abraham and Mary Lincoln had son Willie, not William. I recognize that in the 21st Century one would be inclined to think Willie is simply a nickname for William, but in the 19th century it was a name unto itself. As for kinship of Hames H. Via to Harrison and Edward Via, please remember that the kinship may have originated with the mother, Louisiana (as opposed to the father, Carter), of the two brothers, Harrison and Edward. She, too, was a Via. See marriage bond, Henrico County, 1828, for Carter and Louisiana. It clearly states her maiden name is Via. Her father was Robert Via IV, son of Robert III, beneficiary of Robert II's deed of gift to him and who was a husband of Fanny Ann, although Fanny Ann, apparently, was not mother of Robert Via III (too many Robert's). I believe this is further illustration that one has to be very careful when using secondary sources, as the typed copy would be so classified. Even the original can be suspect. I mentioned in a message to the list a day or so ago that the daughter of Carter and Louisiana is listed in the 1850 Hanover County Census along with parents and siblings. She is Lavinia, and in the 1860 Census in Hanover Lavinia is listd with husband, Henry Jackson Clay Vass. Their marriage is listed in the Immanuel Episcopal Church at Old Church, Hanover in 1858. She is Lavinia here also. But when she dies in 1861, she is listed in the original HANDWRITTEN Death Register as CLEOPATRA Vass as reported by her mother, Louisiana Via (her husband is attached to his fighting unit and is away from Hanover), but I know this is daughter, sister and wife, Lavinia (Via) Vass based on other original data. So, what is my point? One must be careful in one's research and not jump to erroneous conclusions. It frequently takes piecing many pieces together to come up with the most correct data one can find, and even then we can't be absolutely sure. So, we keep an open mind until what facts as we know them are disproven. And Judy, thank you very much for having done the work and sharing with us in identifying Edmund's sons and what became of them. I know your sources are valid. Janelle