In a message dated 6/14/2006 5:58:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, maupinreunion@ckt.net writes: Does anyone have the date of death and place of burial of Angeline and her husband Chapman White Harris? William, I have: Chapman White Harris date of death as 4 December 1901, Albemarle Co., Virginia. The only death date I have for Angeline is 1912. I do not have the cemetery listed in which they are buried. They were married 1 October 1857 in Albemarle County, Virginia. Judy Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Health Bureau of Vital Records and Health Statistics Richmond, Virginia Date of Marriage: October 1, 1857 Place of Marriage: Albemarle Co. HUSBAND Name: Chap. W. Harris Age: 26 Single, widowed, or divorced: Single Birthplace: Albemarle Co., Va. Parents: Sam'l J. & Cath. W Occupation: Farmer WIFE Name: Angelina E. Via Age: 17 Single, widowed, or divorced: Single Birthplace: Albemarle Parents: Hiram K. & Henrietta H. Ceremony performed by Jeremiah McMullen Reported by Ira Garrett Clerk of Circuit Court

Thank you, Judy William ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jlmaupin@aol.com> To: <VIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] Angeline E. Via Harris > > In a message dated 6/14/2006 5:58:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, > maupinreunion@ckt.net writes: > > Does anyone have the date of death and place of burial of Angeline and > her > husband Chapman White Harris? > > > > William, > I have: > > Chapman White Harris date of death as 4 December 1901, Albemarle Co., > Virginia. > > The only death date I have for Angeline is 1912. I do not have the > cemetery > listed in which they are buried. > > They were married 1 October 1857 in Albemarle County, Virginia. > > Judy > > > Commonwealth of Virginia > Department of Health > Bureau of Vital Records and Health Statistics > Richmond, Virginia > > Date of Marriage: October 1, 1857 > Place of Marriage: Albemarle Co. > > HUSBAND > Name: Chap. W. Harris > Age: 26 > Single, widowed, or divorced: Single > Birthplace: Albemarle Co., Va. > Parents: Sam'l J. & Cath. W > Occupation: Farmer > > WIFE > Name: Angelina E. Via > Age: 17 > Single, widowed, or divorced: Single > Birthplace: Albemarle > Parents: Hiram K. & Henrietta H. > > Ceremony performed by Jeremiah McMullen > Reported by Ira Garrett Clerk of Circuit Court > > > >

Good Evening Group!!! Does anyone have the date of death and place of burial of Angeline and her husband Chapman White Harris? Just found out today by doing some research that Chapman White Harris is the grandson of Chapman White and Mildred Maupin. White Hall, VA is named after Chapman White. He died bet. 1810-1820 and it has been very difficult to put his family together, but it looks like he may have had a daughter Catherine White b. abt. 1802 who married Samuel J. Harris, their son was Chapman White Harris. If anyone knows anything of this family I would appreicate hearing from you. I am trying to write a history of White Hall and would like to include the complete family tree of Chapman White and his first cousing, his wife, Mildred Maupin. William

I have a copy of Daniel Rogers Via's Application for Social Security Number. If any one wants a copy just email me. ElaineVia@comcast/net Daniel Rogers Via born: 3 Mar 1888 Mt. Fair, Albemarle, Virginia died: 27 May 1974 Hummelstown, Dauphin, Pennsylvania married: 19 Apr 1906 Mary Clara Garrison Albemarle, Virginia parents: Daniel Via & Malinda Sipe Elaine =^..^=

FERRUM-Rena Lou Via Ingram, 75, of Ingramville, Ferrum, passed Saturday, June 3, 2006, at the home of her daughter and son-in-law, Ronald and Arlene Ingram of Henry. She was born in Patrick County June 20, 1930, to Jesse Nash Via and Nannie Lou Bryant Via. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by two brothers, Owen and Clinton Via, and a granddaughter, Nellie Len Ingram. A member of Union Primitive Baptist Church since 1972, she and her husband were caretakers for 17 years. She loved her church and attended regularly. She has fed many Primitive Baptist preachers in her home. She was a homemaker, who loved sewing and making crafts, quilts and baskets. She is survived by: her husband of 58 years, H.D. Ingram; two daughters and one son-in-law, Brenda I. Tatum, Arlene and Ronald Ingram; grandchildren, Robby Dee Tatum and wife Renee, Allan Jamie Ingram and wife Renea, Daniel Jessie Ingram and wife Katherine, Ronald Joseph (Joe) Ingram, and Neal Jordan Ingram; great-grandchildren, Allana Joy Ingram, Jacob Turner Ingram, Anna Len Ingram, Benjamin Scott Tatum, Ashley Nicole Tatum, and Abel Jesse Ingram; sisters and brothers, A. Neal Via of Fieldale, Katie Adaline Lane of Ferrum, Grant Kirmer Via of Fieldale, Eunice V. DeVane of Greensboro, Lennis V. Pickeral of Pulaski, Patsy V. Spencer of Ferrum, and Nancy V. Hancock of Statesville, N.C.; sisters in law, Estelle I. Jones of Henry, Marcella Ingram of Ferrum, and Grace Ingram of Rocky Mount; and several nieces and nephews.Funeral service was conducted from Union Primitive Baptist Church at 11 a.m. Tuesday, June 6, with Elder Clarence Stone and Elder Mark Terry officiating. Interm! ent followed in the church cemetery. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Union Primitive Baptist Church, c/o Clarence Stone, 538 Fairmont Dr., Bassett, VA, 24055. Flora Funeral Service, Rocky Mount handled arrangements. The Floyd Press, June 8, 2006

Murray Calvin Viar, 92, died Saturday, June 3, 2006 in Chester. Born October 25, 1913 at Rockfish Depot, a son of the late John E. and Suzanne Mays Viar. Murray was a retired heavy equipment operator with Lyttle & Barnes Construction of Richmond. He is survived by his daughter, Grace C. Lambert of Chapin, S.C.; four sons, Calvin L. Viar of Chesterfield, William R. Viar of Fredericksburg, Kenneth Wayne Viar of Chester, and Jeffrey (J.C.) Viar of Virginia Beach; 17 grandchildren and 16 great-grandchildren. A funeral service will be held Tuesday, 2 p.m. at Rock Spring United Methodist Church in Faber, with Rev. Brantley Craig officiating. Interment in the church cemetery. The family will receive friends one hour before time of service in the church social hall, and suggests that memorials take the form of contributions to Hospice of the Piedmont, 2200 Old Ivy Rd., Charlottesville, Va. 22903. Arrangements by Wells/Sheffield Funeral Chapel of Lovingston, 434-263-4097, Published i! n the Richmond Times-Dispatch on 6/5/2006

CLIFTON FORGE - Dorothy Elizabeth Downey Via, 87, of 9803 Rich Patch Road, Low Moor, died, Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at Alleghany Regional Hospital. She was born on May 6, 1919 in Alleghany County, a daughter of Frank Alexander and Hettie Montgomery Downey. She was the last surviving member of her immediate family. She was a homemaker and a member of the Low Moor Presbyterian Church, where she was very active. She is survived by one daughter, Debbie Via of the residence in Low Moor; one son, James Franklin Via and wife, Lou of Auburndale, Fla.; five grandchildren, Debbie Haywood and husband, Billy, Tammy Hughett and husband, Nathaniel, Jamie Via and wife, Carrie, Cheryl Sivis and Steven Sivis; and a number of great grandchildren, nieces and nephews. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by her husband, Harry Randolph Via, Sr.; one daughter, Merle Via; one son, Harry "Pete" Randolph Via, Jr.; three sisters and four brothers. In keeping with her requests, her body was cremated. A memorial service will be held at a later date. The daughter will receive friends at the residence. Nicely Funeral Home, Clifton Forge is handling arrangements. The family suggests that memorial tributes take the form of contributions to the Low Moor Presbyterian Church, 204 Old Church Road, Low Moor, Va. 24457. To send online condolences to the family, please register at: www.nicelyfuneralhome.com

We had two members who got their 37 Marker test results back today. Kit N20364 & Kit 50048. I am going to give the Genetic Distance from the other members who have also got their 37 Marker test results back. 37 Marker Analysis for Kit N20364 (The Genetic Distance from the other Members who also got their 37 Marker test done). Kit 41120 Distance 1 Kit 51699 Distance 1 Kit 41313 Distance 2 Kit 41915 Distance 2 Kit 43157 Distance 2 Kit 43766 Distance 2 Kit 45276 Distance 2 Kit N6276 Distance 2 Kit 45239 Distance 4 Kit 50048 Distance 5 Kit 46438 Distance 42 Kit 42087 Distance 46 37 Marker Analysis for Kit 50048 (The Genetic Distance from the other Members who also got their 37 Marker test done). Kit 43766 Distance 3 Kit 45276 Distance 3 Kit 41120 Distance 4 Kit 51699 Distance 4 Kit 41313 Distance 5 Kit 41915 Distance 5 Kit 43157 Distance 5 Kit 45239 Distance 5 Kit N20364 Distance 5 Kit N6276 Distance 5 Kit 46438 Distance 41 Kit 42087 Distance 45 The Family Tree DNA is now doing a 67 Marker test. We have four members who have order their 67 Marker test. I think it will be very interesting to see the results of these tests when they come in. Please, check our website out, and join our Y-DNA Via Surname Project. http://www.familytreedna.com/(2ubqdjq1zdwbesaxjxwxrbmt)/public/ViaSurnameProject/index.aspx Thanks, Elaine =^..^=

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Via, Puckett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WVUBAEB/179 Message Board Post: If anyone else is working on VIAs in Hickman County, Kentucky, and could help me figure out how Parthena Via b. 1831, who married Samuel or Lemuel Puckett fits in, please let me know. Thanks.

Elaine - I thought you may be interested in this DNA info I found on Genforum. The reason I am sending this is that their are a number of seeming similarities and other connections between the Weir family of Pittsylvania County, with the Via family of Halifax County, including naming patterns. There is even a "Jonathan Weir": http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?virginia,va::weir::2230.html A male descendant of Thomas Weir of Pittsylvania Co., *VA* recently had a DNA profile completed. The profile does not match anyone currently listed in the Ware or Weir family DNA projects. As a matter of fact, he is of a completely different haplogroup. He is haplogroup I, while the others are from some form of haplogroup R. I would like to encourage other families who descend from Weir's who hale from *VA*, NC, and SC in the 1700's to join the project. Maybe we can figure out if any other of the Weir's or Ware's in this area are related. Because the I haplogroup appears to be rather rare compared with group R in the Weir/Ware family, it would probably be easy to link others from this family. I do have a paper trail that corroberates this male descendant's lineage all the way back to Thomas Weir. ... The male descendant is from Thomas Weir's son William. There were two other sons, Bezaleel and John. Edna Barney ~~ <edna@ednabarney.com> 'what is the use of a blog without pictures or conversations?' ~~Neddy in Bloggerland My Homepage ~~ http://neddynews.wordpress.com My Flickr ~~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/neddy/sets/

Dorothy Elizabeth Downey Via, 87, of Low Moor, Va., died Wednesday, May 31, 2006. Arrangements by Nicely Funeral Home, Clifton Forge. The Roanoke Times, Published on 06/01/2006 Dorothy Elizabeth Downey Via, 87, of 9803 Rich Patch Road, Low Moor, Virginia, died, Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at Alleghany Regional Hospital. She was born on May 6, 1919 in Alleghany County, a daughter of Frank Alexander and Hettie Montgomery Downey. She was the last surviving member of her immediate family. She was a homemaker and a member of the Low Moor Presbyterian Church, where she was very active. She is survived by one daughter, Debbie Via of the residence in Low Moor; one son, James Franklin Via and wife, Lou of Auburndale, FL.; five grandchildren, Debbie Haywood and husband, Billy, Tammy Hughett and husband, Nathaniel, Jamie Via and wife, Carrie, Cheryl Sivis and Steven Sivis; and a number of great grandchildren, nieces and nephews. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by her husband, Harry Randolph Via, Sr.; one daughter, Merle Via; one son, Harry "Pete" Randolph Via, Jr.; three sisters and four brothers. In keeping with her requests, her body was c! remated. A memorial service will be held at a later date. The daughter will receive friends at the residence. Nicely Funeral Home, Clifton Forge is handling arrangements. The family suggests that memorial tributes take the form of contributions to the Low Moor Presbyterian Church, 204 Old Church Road, Low Moor, Va. 24457. Emma Mae "Agnes" Fridley Via, 80, of 629 N. Augusta Ave., Covington, Virginia, passed away peacefully, Friday morning, December 9, 2005 at her residence. She was born on January 12, 1925 in Nitro, West Virginia, a daughter of the late Walter T. and Stella Mae McDaniel Fridley. She had worked for H. O. Canfield in Iron Gate for a number of years. She was a homemaker devoting herself and her time as a loving wife, mother, grandmother and great grandmother. She was a member of Grace Brethren Church of Covington. She is survived by her loving husband of 36 years, Marvin J. Via of Covington; one daughter and son-in-law, Rhonda and Herbert "Ted" Simmons, Jr. of Covington; two sons and one daughter-in-law, Jack and Brenda Persinger of Covington and James M. "Jamie" Brown, Jr. of Clifton Forge; two step daughters and sons-in-law, Dreama and Charles Finney of Berryville and Jane and Ronnie Sexton of Oak Hill, West Virginia; one step son, Gregory E. Via of Covington; one sister, Virgi! nia "Toad" Wilmer of Clifton Forge; one brother and sister-in-law, Jack and Margaret Fridley of Rich Patch; eleven grandchildren, Katrina Maddy, Jill Paige Hatcher, Kimberly Stephenson, Pam Wilmer, Lori Perry, Ronnie Wilmer, Shawn Persinger, Jay Persinger, Kristie Schultz, Jamie "Eagle" Brown and Matthew Pennington; seventeen great grandchildren; and a number of nieces and nephews. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by one daughter, Paula J. Wilmer; one son, James "Tommy" Persinger and one brother, James "Chink" Fridley. A graveside service will be held on Monday, December 12, 2005 at 3:00 PM at Alleghany Memorial Park, Low Moor with Reverend Bill Gilliland officiating. Interment will follow. Honorary pallbearers will be Bobby Knick, Stanley Nicely, Jay Persinger, Eric Schultz, Jackie Fridley and Ray Wilmer, II. The family will receive friends on Sunday evening from 6:00 until 7:30 PM at Nicely Funeral Home, Clifton Forge and other times at the residence, ! 629 N. Augusta Ave., Covington. The family suggests that memorial tributes take the form of contributions to the Mountain Regional Hospice, Volunteers, PO Box 637, Clifton Forge, Va. 24422 or the Alzheimer's Association, 2728 Colonial Ave., SW, Suite 2, Roanoke, Va. 24015 or the American Diabetes Association, 530 Main Street, Richmond, Va. 23219 Kay Toney Via, age 67, of 932 Acacia Ave., Clifton Forge died Friday, December 14, 2001 at her residence. Mrs. Via was born on October 15, 1934 at Beckley, West Virginia a daughter of Arbutus Tyree Toney of Beckley, West Virginia and the late Sid B. Toney. She was a retired Register Nurse from the Alleghany Regional Hospital, Low Moor with forty four years of service and after her retirement she worked as a school nurse for the local school system and was a member of the Central United Methodist Church, Clifton Forge. In addition to her mother she is survived by her husband, Chalmer "Hank" Louis Via; two sons and daughters-in-law, Gregory Louis and Vicki Via of Chicago, Illinois and Todd Franklin and Amy Via of Hot Springs, VA; five sisters and brothers-in-law, Peggy and Joe Guzello of Port Washington, New York, Emma and Clyde Martin of Clifton Forge, Rebecca and Paul Bouffard of Rhode Island, Nancy and Dennis Davis of Mansfield, Ohio and Margaret Baldridge of Charlotte, Nor! th Carolina; four brothers and sisters-in-law, Robert and Jane Toney of Miami, Florida, John and Judy Toney of Beckley and Troy and Cathy Toney both of Beckley, West Virginia and David Toney of Mt. Hope, West Virginia; three sisters-in-law, Peggy Evans of Manassas, VA, Nancy and Paul Norvell of Iron Gate and Patsy and Bob Dyer of Norfolk, VA; three grandchildren, Kristin Via of Chicago, Illinois and Dylan and Kara Via both of Covington, VA; twenty one nieces and nephews and special friends Dr. Wallace and Marguerite Nunley. A funeral service will be conducted at 11:00 A M Tuesday, December 18, 2001 from the chapel of Nicely Funeral Home, Clifton Forge with the Rev. John Carrier officiating. Interment will follow in the Mountain View Cemetery, Clifton Forge. Friends may pay their respects anytime on Monday at Nicely Funeral Home, 405 Alleghany Street, Clifton Forge. The family will receive friends Monday evening at Nicely Funeral Home from 6:00 to 8:30 PM. The family suggest ! memorial tributes take the form of contributions to the Kazim Shrine Temple Transportation Fund, c/o Dr. Wallace C. Nunley, P.O. Box 76, Clifton Forge, VA.24422

RICHARD GLEN VIERS HIGH POINT, N. C. – Richard Glen Viers, 37 of High Point died Saturday at his home. He was born December 21, 1968 in Pulaski, Va., Glen loved fishing and working on cars. He is survived by his wife Jeannie S. Viers and three children; Richard Glen Viers, Jr., Nathan Stuart Viers and Kayla Marie Viers all of the home. He is also survived by his father James Viers of High Point and mother Margaret Burton and her husband Larry of High Point, brother Jimmy Viers and his wife Tina of High Point and three sisters Angie Thomas and her husband Todd of Pulaski, Va., Shelia Crowder of Dublin, Va. and Gay Rudder and her husband Bobby of High Point and several special nieces and nephews. Funeral services for Mr. Viers will be held 11 a.m. Thursday at Faith Baptist Church with the Rev. Bill Blevins officiating. Interment will follow in Deep River Friends Cemetery. The family will receive friends Wednesday evening from 6 until 8 p.m. at Cumby Family Funeral Service High Point. Online condolences may be made at www.cumbyfuneral.com Arrangements by Cumby Family Funeral Service.

In a message dated 5/25/2006 3:23:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, Janvm1030@aol.com writes: <<Willie Jackson Via was Willie, NOT William>> Janelle, Good point. There are a lot of us who do not have the "formal" version of a name. I'm Judy, not Judith and my husband is Jim, not James. <<As for kinship of Hames H. Via to Harrison and Edward Via, please remember that the kinship may have originated with the mother, Louisiana (as opposed to the father, Carter), of the two brothers, Harrison and Edward.>> Another excellent point. <<And Judy, thank you very much for having done the work and sharing with us in identifying Edmund's sons and what became of them. I know your sources are valid.>> The sources are as valid as any other source. I think like you do. Even with sources we cannot be positive. However the more sources we can gather the stronger our conclusions are. We'll keep digging and adding to the lines as we can. Each time I am able to place someone new in the lines with documentation I feel good. Judy

I believe that I got into a discussion a year or so ago about the name of Willie Jackson Via, grandson of Carter Via, son of Andrew Jackson Via and brother to my grandfather, Walter Turner Via. It was disputed by several that Willie's name was actually William based on the TYPED certified copy of birth certificate from the Virginia Bureau of Vital Stats that was typed a century or so AFTER the fact, but just as Helen Stogdale reports that she has microfilm copy of the ORIGINAL HANDWRITTEN one listing Margaret as mother of James H. Via, I, too, have microfilm copy of the ORIGINAL HANDWRITTEN one stating the name of Willie Jackson Via was Willie, NOT William. Willie was not uncommon for the period. Abraham and Mary Lincoln had son Willie, not William. I recognize that in the 21st Century one would be inclined to think Willie is simply a nickname for William, but in the 19th century it was a name unto itself. As for kinship of Hames H. Via to Harrison and Edward Via, please remember that the kinship may have originated with the mother, Louisiana (as opposed to the father, Carter), of the two brothers, Harrison and Edward. She, too, was a Via. See marriage bond, Henrico County, 1828, for Carter and Louisiana. It clearly states her maiden name is Via. Her father was Robert Via IV, son of Robert III, beneficiary of Robert II's deed of gift to him and who was a husband of Fanny Ann, although Fanny Ann, apparently, was not mother of Robert Via III (too many Robert's). I believe this is further illustration that one has to be very careful when using secondary sources, as the typed copy would be so classified. Even the original can be suspect. I mentioned in a message to the list a day or so ago that the daughter of Carter and Louisiana is listed in the 1850 Hanover County Census along with parents and siblings. She is Lavinia, and in the 1860 Census in Hanover Lavinia is listd with husband, Henry Jackson Clay Vass. Their marriage is listed in the Immanuel Episcopal Church at Old Church, Hanover in 1858. She is Lavinia here also. But when she dies in 1861, she is listed in the original HANDWRITTEN Death Register as CLEOPATRA Vass as reported by her mother, Louisiana Via (her husband is attached to his fighting unit and is away from Hanover), but I know this is daughter, sister and wife, Lavinia (Via) Vass based on other original data. So, what is my point? One must be careful in one's research and not jump to erroneous conclusions. It frequently takes piecing many pieces together to come up with the most correct data one can find, and even then we can't be absolutely sure. So, we keep an open mind until what facts as we know them are disproven. And Judy, thank you very much for having done the work and sharing with us in identifying Edmund's sons and what became of them. I know your sources are valid. Janelle

Judy - Well, now that Helen Stogdale has verified that the original record gives "Silas VIA", your comment about "Micajah" and "Cager" got me to thinking about nicknames. "Cager" was a nickname for "Micajah". Could "Silas" have been a nickname for "Josias"? In fact, when one tries to say the name "Josias" quickly, it comes out "Sias" or "Silas". Perhaps James told the clerk that his father was "Josias VIA" and the clerk heard "Silas VIA" and wrote that down. Edna Barney Jlmaupin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/24/2006 11:42:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, > edna@ednabarney.com writes: > > The original marriage record should still be > available at the Albemarle Courthouse, so a photographic copy of that > one should be obtained to see if the father's name is really > "Silas" VIA > or is it "Josias" VIA. I'm betting on "Josias", since I've never > come > across any VIA named Silas. > > Edna, > Very well put, and very logical. > > I think someone may have said Josias and the clerk wrote Silas. This > seems to have occured frequently. Many records for Micajah show > Cager, etc. > > I will try for a copy of the two marriage licenses and see what we find. > > I also agree that James H. is a close relative of some kind to the > Carter Via family. > > Judy

Helen Stogdale wrote: > Edna, I have a copy of James Henry Via and Mary Ann > Keller's original marriage license. I copied it from > microfilm last month. It is hand written and says > Silas & Margaret Via for the grooms parents. Helen > How very interesting! On the certified certificate (thanks Elaine) the mother of James H. VIA is very clearly typed as "Mary".

Edna, I have a copy of James Henry Via and Mary Ann Keller's original marriage license. I copied it from microfilm last month. It is hand written and says Silas & Margaret Via for the grooms parents. Helen --- Edna Barney <edna@ednabarney.com> wrote: > If Harrison VIA was born about 1842, as the census > gives, and his > father, Carter VIA died in 1856, it would be very > logical to send these > young VIA teen boys off to an uncle for rearing. I > suspect that James H. > (or A.) VIA was a brother or other close kin of > Carter VIA. > > According to the marriage record of James H. VIA and > Mary Ann Keller, > the names of his parents were recorded as Silas and > Mary VIA. I have > never heard of a "Silas" in the VIA family. Yet > there were "Josiah" and > "Josias" VIA in Hanover County. > > The James H. VIA marriage certificate is *NOT* the > original. It was > typed up in 1981 as a "certified" copy, yet there > are often mistakes on > these "certified" records. The original marriage > record should still be > available at the Albemarle Courthouse, so a > photographic copy of that > one should be obtained to see if the father's name > is really "Silas" VIA > or is it "Josias" VIA. I'm betting on "Josias", > since I've never come > across any VIA named Silas. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

__In early Virginia apprenticeships were a way of obtaining technical training for the trades. For example, George Washington made daily entries into his dairy recording his surveying apprenticeship. The Apprenticeship vehicle was also used to remove orphans and other needy children from under parish or local government support, which may have happened to the sons of Carter when he died. Interestingly, George Washington was from an affluent family, but he was also an orphan who was not able to obtain an English education, so he went into the trades. Janvm1030@aol.com wrote: > I have thought that it would be a challenging project to determine the > destination of all 10 of Edmund's sons. Did David die in Albemarle? We know that > James, Edmund's son, stayed in Hanover, but there are eight more to be > accounted for. I think I can put my finger on several that stayed in the > Hanover/Richmond area. I've just never attempted to connect all of them. > > Harrison and Edward, my great grandfather, Andrew Jackson, their sisters > Georgiana and Lavinia are listed in the household of their parents, Carter and > Louisiana Via in the 1850 Hanover census. For Harrison and Edward to have gone > to Albemarle to train under James H., the "master coachmaker" seems to indicate > that the somewhat distant cousins had stayed in touch, doesn't it? I do not > think that H and E were bound out. The family was fairly prosperous yeomen > farmers/planters. It owned several hundred acres of land and some slaves (sad > to say) and were never in debt until after the War. More likely they were > apprenticed or simply learning from a master who also happened to be kin. In the > South especially, one was cousin regardless of the number of times removed. > > Janelle >

If Harrison VIA was born about 1842, as the census gives, and his father, Carter VIA died in 1856, it would be very logical to send these young VIA teen boys off to an uncle for rearing. I suspect that James H. (or A.) VIA was a brother or other close kin of Carter VIA. According to the marriage record of James H. VIA and Mary Ann Keller, the names of his parents were recorded as Silas and Mary VIA. I have never heard of a "Silas" in the VIA family. Yet there were "Josiah" and "Josias" VIA in Hanover County. The James H. VIA marriage certificate is *NOT* the original. It was typed up in 1981 as a "certified" copy, yet there are often mistakes on these "certified" records. The original marriage record should still be available at the Albemarle Courthouse, so a photographic copy of that one should be obtained to see if the father's name is really "Silas" VIA or is it "Josias" VIA. I'm betting on "Josias", since I've never come across any VIA named Silas.

In a message dated 5/23/2006 9:23:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, Janvm1030@aol.com writes: <I have thought that it would be a challenging project to determine the destination of all 10 of Edmund's sons. Did David die in Albemarle?> Janelle, David died in Henrico County in July 1850 from cholera. Pleasant was in Chesterfield County in the 1840 census. William Thompson I believed died in Hanover County between 1851 and 1859. No info on Samuel B. Via. Edmund Via Jr - I believe he is one of the sons that died between 1810 and 1820. Gideon was in the 1850 Henrico County census. No further info. Burwell Campbell Via most likely died in Page County, Virginia between 1900 and 1910. Henry Via - no info James Via - last I have is the 1880 Henrico County, Virginia census. Joel - last I have is the 1880 Henrico County, Virginia census. <For Harrison and Edward to have gone to Albemarle to train under James H., the "master coachmaker" seems to indicate that the somewhat distant cousins had stayed in touch, doesn't it? I do not think that H and E were bound out. > Yes, I believe there is a family relationship and that's why they went to Albemarle to train. I cannot find James H. after the 1860 Albemarle County census. Harrison seemed to waver back and forth. He was in the 1860 Albemarle County census. 1861 he enlisted in the Confederacy and fought and was wounded at the battle of Cold Harbor. 1865 Harrison married Matilda Hare in Lynchburg, Virginia. 1870 he's in the Albemarle Co., Virginia census H. Via 27 Wheelwright Virginia Matilda Via 28 Keeping house Virginia Elizabeth Hare 83 Retired housekeeper Virginia 1879 - Land tax list of Hanover County 1880 - Hanover County census 1893 - non payment of taxes, Hanover County 1895 - married Mildred F. Jefferies in Buena Vista, Rockbridge County, Virginia. 1900, 1910, 1920 - Rockbridge Co., Virginia census. Judy