In a message dated 1/8/2003 5:29:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > The story about Margaret Via's family being the gardners for the Maupins is > not true, I believe it was chanaged and referred to Marie Hersent Maupin's > second husb and Thomas Crease who was a gardner at the Governor's Palace > and at William and Mary College. Recently I corresponded with William and > Mary college and they verfied the fact that Thomas did indeed work there > beginning in 1726 after the Governor died with whom Thomas had came from > England in 1722. > William, I just can't imagine where or how the lore got started that a Via was a gardner for the Maupin's. Generally there is at least a shred of truth in these stories. But I can't figure this one out. If Thomas didn't start gardening at William and Mary until 1726 Margaret Via and Daniel Maupin were married before that as their children were born in the early 1720's. (Gabriel Maupin I believe was born about 1720). And for Gabriel to disapprove of Daniel's marriage that disapproval would have had to have been before 1720 when Gabriel died. So there is a span in there from about 1711/1716 until 1720 when a Via could have gardened for the Maupin's but it would have had to have been for Gabriel Maupin and not Thomas Crease. From the Vestry records it is unclear to me if Amer died 1711 or closer to 1716. William Via does not show up in processioning records until 1731 in Hanover County. And when he does show up he appears to be on the land of Amer Via. So I suppose anything's possible. Were the younger children sent to Williamsburg? If so why? Robert was in the processioning records in Hanover starting in 1715..... Judy

Good Evening, Group!!! I only recently started working on the Via family. I have over the past twenty years collected a little information and have talked with several people that worked on the Via family. One story I find particularly interesting and believe is the story of William (Amer) coming to America twice. After arriving the first time the story was he got into some trouble or had a problem and was deported. Then returned under another first name "Amer". I would tend to believe this story because we (the Maupin LIne) have heard many times that Gabriel Maupin changed his will shortly before his death due to the fact that he did not like the family from which Margaret Via came. If her father had had some difficulty in the past that would account for this rejection of his son Daniel's choice for a wife. Also, I am of the opinion that Margaret Via was living in Williamsburg when she married Daniel Maupin. Assuming both her parents were deceased who was she living with, older siblings? Or was she at William and Mary College who at this time had offered schooling to the poor and indians. Would appreciate some comments on this!!! The story about Margaret Via's family being the gardners for the Maupins is not true, I believe it was chanaged and referred to Marie Hersent Maupin's second husb and Thomas Crease who was a gardner at the Governor's Palace and at William and Mary College. Recently I corresponded with William and Mary college and they verfied the fact that Thomas did indeed work there beginning in 1726 after the Governor died with whom Thomas had came from England in 1722. William Albertson [email protected]

A huge thank you to Ed Skelding who contributed information found in the Benjamin B. Via Bible record, it's with his permission that I post this information to the group. Judy Benjamin F. Via was borned August 30, 1826 Virginia G. Mcalpin was borned February 26, 1832 Mary Elizebeth Via was borned October 28, 1852 James Samuel Via was borned September 28, 1854 Permelia Francis Via was borned April 9, 1856 John Franklin Via was bornd May 11, 1858 Virginia Emer Via was bornd May 22, 1860 Charles Miller Via was bornd December 5, 1861 William Morgan Via was born June 7, 1864 Ellen Lee Via was born July 25, 1866 Infant child bornd March 4, 1869 – boy Aubrey Chalmer Via was bornd June 29, 1870 Elbert Nelson Via was bornd March 20, 1874 Benjamin Baits Via was bornd November 13, 1877 Benjamin F. Via was married to Virginia G. Mcalpin November13, 1851 James B. Via and Permelia H. Walton was married December 23,1823 William W. Dudley was married to Mary E. Via May 27, 1875 James S. Via and Cary Snap was married November 7, 1877 Faney P. Via and Andrew Staples was married April 11, 1878 James B. Via was bornd October 16, 1803 Permelia H. Via was bornd January 13, 1806 John F. Via and Moby C. Bolar was married Nov. 26, 1879 (Mary?) W. M. Via was married to Miss Sheppie H. Hart September 13,1898 Ella Via was married June 28 (no further info)

Hi Judy, So how is Ed Skelding related to this family? Dennis King Subject: [VIA-L] Benjamin B. Via Bible > A huge thank you to Ed Skelding who contributed information found in the > Benjamin B. Via Bible record, it's with his permission that I post this > information to the group. > > > > Judy > > > > Benjamin F. Via was borned August 30, 1826 > > Virginia G. Mcalpin was borned February 26, 1832 > > Mary Elizebeth Via was borned October 28, 1852 > > James Samuel Via was borned September 28, 1854 > > Permelia Francis Via was borned April 9, 1856 > > John Franklin Via was bornd May 11, 1858 > > Virginia Emer Via was bornd May 22, 1860 > > Charles Miller Via was bornd December 5, 1861 > > William Morgan Via was born June 7, 1864 > > Ellen Lee Via was born July 25, 1866 > > Infant child bornd March 4, 1869 – boy > > Aubrey Chalmer Via was bornd June 29, 1870 > > Elbert Nelson Via was bornd March 20, 1874 > > Benjamin Baits Via was bornd November 13, 1877 > > > > Benjamin F. Via was married to Virginia G. Mcalpin November13, 1851 > > James B. Via and Permelia H. Walton was married December 23,1823 > > William W. Dudley was married to Mary E. Via May 27, 1875 > > James S. Via and Cary Snap was married November 7, 1877 > > Faney P. Via and Andrew Staples was married April 11, 1878 > > > > James B. Via was bornd October 16, 1803 > > Permelia H. Via was bornd January 13, 1806 > > > > John F. Via and Moby C. Bolar was married Nov. 26, 1879 (Mary?) > W. M. Via was married to Miss Sheppie H. Hart September 13,1898 > Ella Via was married June 28 (no further info) > > > >

Up until now I have not been able to find William Via, grandson mentioned in William Sr.'s will in Albemarle County after he sold the land left to him by his grandfather. William and brother Micajah were in Halifax County, Virginia when they sold their land in Albemarle. Later Micajah lived and presumably died in Montgomery County. Until now I have not been able to find William or where he might have gone after Halifax County but I now believe he was also in Montgomery County. In a land grant of 9 June 1829 to Ambrose Briant the following appears: Beginning at a black Oak Corner to McCutchins land, thence with one line, S 49 degrees, E 242 poles crossing a branch to a poplar on a ridge; S 38 degrees W 106 poles to four chesnut Oaks and two black Oaks corner to Richard Woods and William Viers land; thence with a line of the latter N 35 degrees W 186 poles crossing a branch to a white oak on a ridge corner to Frederick Gharsts land and thence with a line N 11 degrees, East 80 poles to the beginning. I do not find him in the 1830 census records. If anyone has any books or is researching in Montgomery County please keep your eye open for William. Judy

Here's some info on St. Peter's Parish explaining the years the birth records were recorded. and that there were two Churches in this Parish. Judy The Vestry Book of St. Peter’s Parish There were two churches in St. Peter’s Parish in 1685, the Upper Church and the Lower Church. The Upper Church was located on the Pamunkey River in what is now Hanover County about three miles east of the present village of Old Church. Volume No. 1 served two purposes: What may be called the front part (pages 1 to 247) contains the minutes of the vestry meetings between1684 (possibly 1683) and 1758; the back part (pages 1 to 143) contains a record, apparently very incomplete, of births, marriages, baptisms, and deaths in the parish between 1685 and 1730 or 1731, when a new book (MS Volume 2) wasbegun.

Thank you to Jewell for contributing the following information on Guardians/Orphans Guardianship Records from “Southern Queries”, Jan./Feb.1999, page 16-17 What Is a Guardian? A guardian is a person appointed by a court to manage the property ownership of an individual who is either a minor (younger than the legal age of majority as defined by the state under which the court lies) or who is mentally or physically incompetent by reason of age or other circumstance to manage his or her own affairs. Certainly guardians are appointed for other reasons as well. The guardian’s role is usually to supervise the financial affairs of the person in question. The guardian is responsible to the court to act responsibly in the interests of the person in his charge until such time as they reach the age of majority or until there is another change in the condition, i.e. marriage or death. The guardian must submit an annul accounting to the court of his or her actions and any expenditures made on his charges’ behalf. When the person for whom he is responsible has a change in status, the guardian must also make a report to the court of that alteration in circumstance and present an accounting to close out his role on that person’s behalf. That means that there may be additional records in the county courthouse that could help you trace the guardian or the person for whom he was responsible. An orphan in the eyes of the court is an individual without one or both parents. Usually a court refers to a child whose father is dead as an orphan for legal purposes. There are usually two court processes involved: 1. the declaration that a person is incompetent to handle his or her affairs, and 2. the assignment of the guardian (also sometimes called a conservator). In the first court process, the age of the child is ascertained. This is a very important point. The age of 14 years is critical. If you find the appointment of a guardian, it usually indicates that the child was under the age of 14. Children of the age of 14 years and above could usually make their own legal decision of whom they wished to act in their behalf. The guardian usually acted on behalf of his charge until he/she reached the age of 21 years unless,as discussed above, there is a change in status – such as death or marriage. In the second court process, the guardian is legally appointed and the name of his charge is listed. It is not uncommon for there to be multiple guardians appointed to act for different children in the same family. It may not have been practical for one person to act as guardian for an entire family of children. Also,if some children were a product of one marriage and others from a previous marriage, it may have been desirable to appoint guardians from the families of the different spouses to act on behalf of their blood kin. One or both of these processes may be separate from the process of probate, in which the estate of the deceased parent is registered, proved and administered. Certainly,some estates took a long period to be probated and distributed. In the meantime, the needs of the children had to be attended to. Therefore, sometimes temporary guardians were appointed strictly for the probate period and/or until arrangements could be made to place the child with relatives. Alternatives to Guardianships In some cases, parents couldn’t support their children and the county took on the responsibility to support them. They were often sent to places referred to as orphan homes, orphan asylums, alms houses, workhouses or poor houses. You will often find records of county-operated institutions on the county tax rolls. Names of individuals housed at these places are usually included because there is a price associated with the maintenance of each one. Depending on the time frame, census records, too, may provide information about the residents. Church-supported institutions may be more difficult to find or to access. Non-government operated institutions records may no longer exist or may be impossible to locate. They may reside in a county office or in a state archive, in a county or local historical society’s collection, in a local library’s vertical files, or in a private collection. Quite often, unfortunately, the records simply disappeared after the institution closed its doors. Sometimes a child was apprenticed to learn a trade. A poor family that could not provide for all its children might choose to bind a child to a master via an indenture. A poor father might also make such arrangements and include directions in his will for a child to learn a trade. The master who accepted an apprentice takes responsibility as his guardian. He is usually responsible to feed and clothe the apprentice in addition to teaching him the trade. He might also be required by the local or county government to insure that the apprentice attended school. Indentures for apprenticeships can often be found in county records. What Does It All Mean? As you can see, there were a variety of ways in which an underage minor child’s interests could be protected. There are also public records that documented the processes and the accounting. If you have male ancestors who died leaving young children, there’s a possibility that there may be records of guardianship or other arrangements. While there may be a will that went through probate, there may be other records too. Don’t overlook these other records. They may hold clues to names, ages, dates or birth and other information that you’ve been seeking.

In a message dated 12/23/2002 3:10:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > May help some body locate where to look. Looks like a $35.00 Index to me > Buddy, Thank you for clarifying this book for us. In some cases it might prove helpful but I think in most cases we've located a lot of info on the Via's and I'm not sure anything useful could be derived from these books. Thanks for checking. Happy holidays to all... Judy

Judy and All: I checked the book "Virginia in 1760: A Reconstructed Census" coptright (c) 1996 by T.L.C. Genealogy, P.O. Box 403369 Miami, Beach, Fl 33140-1369. I think they were a little loose with the word census. The introduction page explains; Most entries look like this: (I will use the name Via) VIA David Louisa, 64:13, 64:91 William Albermarle, 64:45, 64:46 Were the elements are: Surname First name county, book number:page number In this case, VIA, David would be found in book number 64 on page 13 and 91 VIA, William same book, 64 page 45 and 46. In the references Book # 64 is Louisa County, Virginia, Deeds, Etc, Book C, 1759-1765. LVA Reel 2.65. The Vestry Book and Register of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent and James Counties, Virginia, 1706-1786. Transcribed and edited by C.G. Chamberlayne, Virginia State Library and Archives, Richmond, Va. 1989. I did send about the numbers being reels and item. My Error. Probably thinking of the LVA Reel above. May help some body locate where to look. Looks like a $35.00 Index to me Buddy PS I copied name MAUPIN. Daniel Louisa 64:46 (same book as William above) and MAUPIN, Gabriel, 17:133, 17:136, 17:171 Book 17 is York County, Virginia, Judgments & Orders #3, 1759-1763. LVA Reel 30. bv ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: [VIA-L] 1760 Virginia > Buddy, > This is the info I found on the book. So it appears it only lists where > these named people can be found so don't know if the book would be valuable > to us or not since you've already cited microfilm, etc. > > Judy > > Find a person here, and you may have the key to finding many more > generations, right in the same county, This book, which is based on primary > records (order books, deeds, wills, tax lists, etc), is an alphabetical list > of Virginia inhabitants, their county of residence, and the source of the > information about them. There are 46,768 names, of which there are 6126 > unique surnames and 24,308 different people. Included are people from every > county that existed in VA in 1760. Names are keyed to page numbers in each of > 89 references (most of our references are previously unpublished), so that > copies of the original documents can easily be examined. (1996), 375 pages. > > >

Good Afternoon, Group!!! I have a copy of both books of Road Orders, the first is small and does not contain much on names, the second however is a good guide to the locations of families and their neighbors. Since I lived in the White Hall area for nine years doing genealogy I am familiar with the existing and the roads that have been closed. Judy, here is the item you wanted: Historic Roads of Virginia, Albemarle County Road Orders 1783-1816 by Nathaniel Mason Powlett. By the way he is now deceased, comitted suicide. Page 52. Joseph Goodman is appointed a Surveyro of the road leading by the Barricks from John Shifletts to the river with the following male labouring tytheables to keep the same in repair too wit, William Micie's John Shifletts Joel Shiflett Joshua Gray and his son Joseph Burnet Champion Poindexter Shadarick Battels Charles Cruther , James Epperson and his son Charles Charles Goodman William Owens Robert Maury, Thomas B urton Lewis Shiflet Rowland Horsley William Pritt Martin Phillips William Harris John Obrian Nathan Stradling Horsley Goodman Tytheables and the male Tytheables of the said Joseph Goodman. Now for some current local information. The original "Main Road" to the Barricks was out of Charlottesville northwest on what is now called Lamb's Road. It went close to the Church built on the land of Bland Ballard which he donated. There is a housing development in this area now. The original church is gone but I have been told my Larry Wyant, current operator, of Wyants store that as a young boy he cut grass in the area since he lived in that area with his parents Clark Wyant's family, descendants of the Maupins. Larry is 54 years old. While cutting grass he said that there were graves in the yards of one house that was built close to where the church was at one time. These are undoubtedly the graves of the Bland Ballard family. Later the church was moved to another location north and now has its own cemetery. Anyway back to the road. The original road to the Barricks now goes across "private" property and is not possible to travel on it. The Barricks itself is a housing development also. Graves have been found in they yards of the current owners of the houses and some have been marked. The road spoken of in this writing is apparently the south road out of the barricks. On a current map it would come out onto Barricks Road, turn west go less than a mile and turn north. This is now the Road from Barricks road to Free Union. Free Union did not exist in 1795. It went north to a fork. The East fork went to the original site of Michie's Tavern, the West fort went to what is now Wesly Chapel Church, passing Free Union Baptist Church and the Cemetery next to it. Just a short distance on the west road, perhaps a few hundred feet another branch of the road turns north. This is the branch spoken of in this entry I beleive. This branch goes north several miles to the (then) Orange County Line, as soon as you cross the Orange County Line you have Bingham Church on your left. The Road contines on to Route 33 west of Standardsville. Before you reach the Orange County line there is a road that branches left and it is on this road that a great number of the Shifflets lived. Shifflets Mill is also located on this road. I hope this will help. If anyone would like lookups on the Road Order Book please let me know, and for those of you who can get a copy of the Albemarle County Road map I wll expain the locations of these entries with the current maps. I will see if I can order a map of Albemarle Co. myself. They are free and are available at any of the DOT offices in Albemarle Co. I have my in storage but I can ask a friend to stop by the office that is near her home and mail me several. William Albertson [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: [VIA-L] Albemarle County Road orders >Does anyone have a copy of Albemarle County Road Orders? > >I'm looking for the entry for 7 Dec 1795... >it starts outs....Joseph Goodman is appointed a surveyor of the road leading >by the barracks from John Shifletts to the river with the following male..... > >Thank you, >Judy > >

Does anyone have a copy of Albemarle County Road Orders? I'm looking for the entry for 7 Dec 1795... it starts outs....Joseph Goodman is appointed a surveyor of the road leading by the barracks from John Shifletts to the river with the following male..... Thank you, Judy

In a message dated 12/22/2002 1:35:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I will double check the meaning of the numbers on Monday. > Buddy, Thank you I think that will be a big help. Judy

In a message dated 12/22/2002 12:45:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Do you have the URL for this information - I did a search on AddAll and > could not find it? > <A HREF="http://www.tlcgenealogy.com/virginiain1760.html">Virginia in 1760: A Reconstructed Census</A> This is a bookseller site. Judy

Ann seems to have had some connection to the Via family. To date I have not been able to determine what or how the connection may be. But found William Barksdale's will on-line (Ann's first husband). It doesn't really shed any light on if Ann could be a Via or not. William Barksdale names: son Jonathan, daughter Betsy Barksdale, wife Ann, son Hudson, son John Hickerson, son Nelson, and son Samuel. His executors were: "and appoint my friends Horsly Goodman, Charles Goodman, Samuel Barksdale, and my beloved wife Ann Barksdale executors of this my last will and testament in witness whereof I have here set my hand and fixed my seal this eleventh day of June one thousand seven hundred and ninty-six. William Barksdale I was surprised to see one of the witness to this will was Thomas Maupin. Witness: Goodman Barksdale, Charles Wingfield, Thomas Maupin Judy

At the same site where I found the 1760 for sale they also have the same thing for 1720 and 1740....interesting. Judy

Buddy, This is the info I found on the book. So it appears it only lists where these named people can be found so don't know if the book would be valuable to us or not since you've already cited microfilm, etc. Judy Find a person here, and you may have the key to finding many more generations, right in the same county, This book, which is based on primary records (order books, deeds, wills, tax lists, etc), is an alphabetical list of Virginia inhabitants, their county of residence, and the source of the information about them. There are 46,768 names, of which there are 6126 unique surnames and 24,308 different people. Included are people from every county that existed in VA in 1760. Names are keyed to page numbers in each of 89 references (most of our references are previously unpublished), so that copies of the original documents can easily be examined. (1996), 375 pages.

In a message dated 12/22/2002 10:03:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hello Group: I found a book at my library; "Virginia in 1760: A > Reconstructed Census" > On page 355 it list > VIA > Hi Buddy, Thank you for posting this information. After you posted this I did a check on the web and the book appears to be available - a little steep at $35. But if you don't have any luck checking this further I could order the book. Judy

Judy: I will double check the meaning of the numbers on Monday. Buddy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: [VIA-L] 1760 Virginia > Buddy, > This is the info I found on the book. So it appears it only lists where > these named people can be found so don't know if the book would be valuable > to us or not since you've already cited microfilm, etc. > > Judy > > Find a person here, and you may have the key to finding many more > generations, right in the same county, This book, which is based on primary > records (order books, deeds, wills, tax lists, etc), is an alphabetical list > of Virginia inhabitants, their county of residence, and the source of the > information about them. There are 46,768 names, of which there are 6126 > unique surnames and 24,308 different people. Included are people from every > county that existed in VA in 1760. Names are keyed to page numbers in each of > 89 references (most of our references are previously unpublished), so that > copies of the original documents can easily be examined. (1996), 375 pages. > > >

Found the URL -- http://www.tlcgenealogy.com/virginiain1760.html Rae Jean

Do you have the URL for this information - I did a search on AddAll and could not find it? Rae Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] Virginia 1760 Census : At the same site where I found the 1760 for sale they also have the same : thing for 1720 and 1740....interesting. : : Judy :