Good Morning, Via Group!!! The Miller book was printed about 1907. William Miller made several trips to Albemarle County working on his book. He also made trips to Tennessee, all by train to gather information. He interview many decendants of the Maupin family and various other families covered in the book. Over the thirty years I have worked on the Maupins I have been told by several descendants about William Miller contacting their family by mail requestion famly data. If you will notice in Miller's book most data is give without dates. I can tell you that William Miller was very careful not to embarrass any members of the family by including data that might reflect badly on specific people. Dr. Socrates Maupin was the first genealogist in the Maupin family. He started about 1830 and worked until his death in 1871. In 1837 he drew up the first Maupin Family Tree on a large sheet and it from this that we know basically the first four generations of the Maupin line. Dr. Socrates Maupin's papers are at the Alderman Library in Charlottesville. For many years apparently these papers circulated by mail to various family members. This was at a time when copiers were not available. Many of the pages disappeared and the remaining pages were donated to Alderman by Dr. Socrates Maupin, Grandaughter, I believe. Dorothy Maupin Shaffett was given the original copy of the family chart, which she has now given to the Alderman Library also. I will ask Dorothy the next time I talk with her if she ever knew where the "Forester" story came from. The most likely source is the Maupin of Norfolk area of Virginia, Gabriel, II's Line. It is this line that first made public the story of Marie Hersent being Mary Spencer of England, of Royal ancestry. This is, we now know, untrue. There were 500 copies of William H. Miller's book printed. Most were bount in a green cover and a few were brown leather bound. I have probabaly seen over 30 copies of this book in the past thirty years. I was reprinted once by a publisher out of Ohio. If a third printing was done I have not hear of it. For those of you who would like to read the Miller book, I know of only one circulating copy. This copy, a second copy, is at the Waynesboro Public Library in Waynesboro, Virginia. While I living in White Hall I checked it out many many times. It is available through inter-library loan and if you will check you local library they can probably order it for you. Since I had dismissed the story of the Via's working for the Maupins in France I cannot honestly tell you if it is in Millers book. But as I said I will ask Dorothy and see if she knows its origin. The Boyce Miller book, of which there is a copy in Standardsville, Greene County, VA I have read. There is information taken from Dr. Socrates Maupin notes that must have been taken before the documents were given to Alderman, because this data is not in the current copy of the notes. As I said people removed pages over the years and the remainder are at Alderman Library, Charlottesville. If anyone has additional questions concerning the above please post your questions and I will try and answer them or refer you to someone who can. William Albertson [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jewell Via Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info >Judy and All. The pages I sent re :Robert Miller are numbered 684---690. >7 pages >There are Notes listing desire for information on certain individuals >includes two children of Robert Miller Jr. and Margaret Maupin. >Note. Descendents of Robert 1 and Ann Lynn and Daniel Miller son of Robert >Jr. and Margaret Maupin are most admirably traced by Mr. William Harris >Miller of Richmond, Kentucky which is entitled "History and Genealogies" >Therefore the descendents of John and Daniel who emigrated to Kentucky are >not treated in this text. BOYCE MILLER >Jewell >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:49 PM >Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info > > >> In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> >> > <<I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon >later? >> > >> >> >> Edna, >> No telling if it was the original source of this info or not. But we know >> info is embellished at it goes on although this story is still told the >same. >> So maybe it's just being repeated over and over. >> >> > << When was the Miller book published? >> >> > I don't know when it was published or if this article appeared in some >> > other book. The only thing I can find for a reference is that it was >> > printed in the William and Mary Journal, Series 2, Volume 13, No. 1, pg >> > 39-45 but no date is given. >> > >> > If anyone has access to these journals it would be great to see what if >any >> > sources Miller cites.... >> > >> > Judy >> >> >> >> > >

I just wanted to check and see if anyone has researched any Via records in Prince Edward County before I go to the expense and time to do any research in that county. The reason I'm looking toward Prince Edward is because it was a district court and included the area of Buckingham County for awhile. Since Buckingham's records were destroyed by fire I thought it might be worth checking in Prince Edward to see if we could learn anything new. Thank you, Judy

Jewell sent me an article on Jean de Jarnat a French Huguenot. While the article does not pertain to the Via's it does have some interesting points in it. So I will include just the portion that may be of interest to us as researchers. Jean deJarnat petitioned the General Assembly, summoned to meet at her Majesty's Royal College of William and Mary on March 17, 1702, for naturalization. The Assembly met on March 19th, "in the second year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lady Anne by the Grace of God of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland, Queen Defender of the Faith". Thency, by several proroations, the Assembly continued to meet at the Royal Capitol. On the 18th day of April 1705, the petition was considered. Jean, along with Jean deLaune, John James Veillon, John Guy Rey and Gabriel Maupin became British subjects and citizens of the Colony of Virginia. Does anyone know where General Assembly info can be found for the years prior to the above mentioned 1702? There is every reason to believe that John (Americanized name) Dejarnatt was a Huguenot, and was forced to flee France after the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. It is thought that he left France by way of the port of La Rochelle because this was a stronghold of the Huguenots. Throngs of Protestant Frenchmen left France after 1685. Some went to Holland and some to England. Great numbers of the Huguenots immigrated to America. Those who came to America were required to touch at an English port and receive permission before proceeding. Even though this part of this article references 1685 I suspect some of the "rules" were the same in 1675 when William Vier was transported to Virginia. So what I find interesting was the information about La Rochelle and the fact that the Huguenots coming to America were required to touch at an English port and receive permission to continue. So...if we can ever get together somehow as a group to look for Amer before he came here these may be some interesting clues to follow. It's great to know this stuff!! and I thank Jewell for so freely sharing this type of info. Judy

In a message dated 1/23/2003 5:14:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > This article was published in 1933. I have a copy of the reprint in > Genealogies of Virginia Families from the William & Mary Quarterly, Vol. 3, > pp. 684-690. It does not list any sources other than reference to "History > and Genealogies" by W. H. Miller in regards to the descendants of Robert > Miller & Margaret Maupin. > Michele, Thank you for posting this information. Larry, Thank you for your offer but Michele answered the questions for us. Thanks to both of you for contributing to this info. Judy

Judy if no one does so before Tuesday, I will check this in the library at Duke university. Larry Chandler --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

Judy and All. The pages I sent re :Robert Miller are numbered 684---690. 7 pages There are Notes listing desire for information on certain individuals includes two children of Robert Miller Jr. and Margaret Maupin. Note. Descendents of Robert 1 and Ann Lynn and Daniel Miller son of Robert Jr. and Margaret Maupin are most admirably traced by Mr. William Harris Miller of Richmond, Kentucky which is entitled "History and Genealogies" Therefore the descendents of John and Daniel who emigrated to Kentucky are not treated in this text. BOYCE MILLER Jewell ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info > In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > <<I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon later? > > >> > > Edna, > No telling if it was the original source of this info or not. But we know > info is embellished at it goes on although this story is still told the same. > So maybe it's just being repeated over and over. > > > << When was the Miller book published? >> > > I don't know when it was published or if this article appeared in some > > other book. The only thing I can find for a reference is that it was > > printed in the William and Mary Journal, Series 2, Volume 13, No. 1, pg > > 39-45 but no date is given. > > > > If anyone has access to these journals it would be great to see what if any > > sources Miller cites.... > > > > Judy > > > >

Again thanks to Jewell..... From: Virginia County Records Early Settlers in Virginia For the importation into the Colony of Virginia, the settlers were granted 50 acres of land for each person brought over. Upon making application for the grant, the name of the person imported had to be given. The following list of names has been taken from the records in the Land Office. To date in a large number of cases is probably not the year in which the immigrant arrived - he may have been in the Colony several years - but the date when the colonist made application for his importation grant. I have not included any names with this article since they do not pertain to the Via surname but the above info is still interesting. Since Amer had 50 acres it appears as though he came to America alone, without a wife or children. Judy

In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > <<I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon later? > >> Edna, No telling if it was the original source of this info or not. But we know info is embellished at it goes on although this story is still told the same. So maybe it's just being repeated over and over. > << When was the Miller book published? >> > I don't know when it was published or if this article appeared in some > other book. The only thing I can find for a reference is that it was > printed in the William and Mary Journal, Series 2, Volume 13, No. 1, pg > 39-45 but no date is given. > > If anyone has access to these journals it would be great to see what if any > sources Miller cites.... > > Judy

This article was published in 1933. I have a copy of the reprint in Genealogies of Virginia Families from the William & Mary Quarterly, Vol. 3, pp. 684-690. It does not list any sources other than reference to "History and Genealogies" by W. H. Miller in regards to the descendants of Robert Miller & Margaret Maupin. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VIA-L] source of the forester info In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > <<I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon later? > >> Edna, No telling if it was the original source of this info or not. But we know info is embellished at it goes on although this story is still told the same. So maybe it's just being repeated over and over. > << When was the Miller book published? >> > I don't know when it was published or if this article appeared in some > other book. The only thing I can find for a reference is that it was > printed in the William and Mary Journal, Series 2, Volume 13, No. 1, pg > 39-45 but no date is given. > > If anyone has access to these journals it would be great to see what if any > sources Miller cites.... > > Judy

We have a copy of the Via family coat of arms that was given to us by Harold H. Via from Florida many years ago. I would by happy to send it to you. I can not post it here because of our attachment limitation. If you would like for me to send it to you as an attachment let me know. . Pat Via ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: [VIA-L] Re: Via Family coat of arms > Does anyone know what the Via Family coat of arms looks like..if so please let me know.. > > > > > > >

Does anyone know what the Via Family coat of arms looks like..if so please let me know..

In a message dated 1/23/2003 12:26:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Thanks to Jewell we have at least one source that claims William Via was a > forester of the Maupin estates in France...it is as follows: > > Miller Family of Orange County, by Boyce Miller, page 685 > Great Judy & Jewell!! I wonder if that is the ONLY source and that it was embellished upon later? When was the Miller book published? Thanks. ~~Edna Edna Barney Pohick Hills, Virginia <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/neddybarney/">my homepage</A> ednabarney.com <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">email me</A>

Thanks to Jewell we have at least one source that claims William Via was a forester of the Maupin estates in France...it is as follows: Miller Family of Orange County, by Boyce Miller, page 685 Robert Miller Jr married in 1763 (?) in Albemarle County, Va., Margaret (nick-named Peggy), youngest daughter of Daniel Maupin Sr., and Margaret (nick-named Peggy) Via (or Viet) his wife, of Moreman's River, Albemarle County, Va. Daniel Maupin Sr., was a son of General Gabriel Maupin, Huguenot refugee to Virginia in 1700; and Margaret (Peggy) Via, his wife, was a daughter of William Via, likewise a Huguenot refugee, who had been the forester of the Maupin estates in France. Too bad there are no footnotes to explain where this information came from. Judy

In a message dated 1/22/2003 7:07:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > CONSORT OF: ROBERT of BEZ'L VIA > I'd like to add my question here.... has anyone seen this type of info on a death certificate before? Does it mean consort of Robert? and what does of Bez'l mean? Thank you, Judy

<A HREF="http://personal.pitnet.net/primarysources/#15">Primary Source Documents</A> The above link is to a web site that has many historical documents on it. Some are very interesting. I just finished reading one on the status of Religion in Virginia in 1661. This site has a lot of interesting historical information. Judy

I have a death certificate of a Judy Via, I have had this certificate for 2 years. I can't seem to find which Judy Via she is? If anyone can help me, please do. Here is the information on the death certificate. PLACE OF DEATH: ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA LINE NUMBER: 179 NAME OF DECEASED: JUDY VIA RACE: WHITE SEX: FEMALE AGE: 76 DATE OF DEATH: MARCH 17, 1884 PLACE: ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA CAUSE OF DEATH; CONSUMPTION NAME OF PARENTS: NOT STATED BIRTHPLACE OF DECEASED: NOT STATED OCCUPATION: NOT STATED CONSORT OF: ROBERT of BEZ'L VIA NAME OF INFORMANT: NOT STATED RELATION OF INFORMANT: NOT STATED COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE: WM . H. BOWCOCK DATE RECORD FILED: BETWEEN 1884 AND 1896 This is all the information on the certificate. Thanks Elaine =^..^=

Marlene, Perhaps it was supposed to be shared. Blessings. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] Life's Pattern > I too enjoyed this message very much. I copied it and sent it to a few of my > friends. > Marlene > >

I too enjoyed this message very much. I copied it and sent it to a few of my friends. Marlene

Sherri, Thank you for your tolerance. It was an error when I was sending it to friends and family. Blessings. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Seymore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] Life's Pattern > > Thank you for sending this. It is beautiful. > > Cheryl Via Seymore > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > >

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