Yes, the Frances who married David Via and John Edey is Frances Stringer, daughter of Edward Stringer and Frances Blackstone. The last document I have found with the name of Frances Blackstone Stringer is a 1752 Fredericksville Parish, Louisa Co, VA deed of gift in which Frances (the mother) released her dower. He married second Judah "Judy or Judith" (surname unproven). I am a descendant of Edward Stringer. Edward, 2nd wife and some children left VA and went to Caswell Co NC before he died. Rae Jean in Tennessee [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] GIDEON I found this on the internet somewhere. Frances who was married to David Via, by the date of this will, 1778, was then married to John Eddy, so would have been Frances Eddy. Is it certain that Frances was a Stringer? Edward Stringer names Sarah Campbell in his 10 March 1778 (probate June Court 1799) Caswell County, NC will -- "Stringer, Edward, Judah (wife); Edmond, Limeledge, Mary Ann, James and William (children); Agnes Whitlock, Fanny Sutherland, Lucy Browning, Tabitha Peed, Sarah Campbell and Frances Vier (daughters)" [abstract from Olds, "North Carolina Wills" page 54] ~*~*~*~ <A HREF="http://www.ednabarney.com/">Edna Barney</A>

I found this on the internet somewhere. Frances who was married to David Via, by the date of this will, 1778, was then married to John Eddy, so would have been Frances Eddy. Is it certain that Frances was a Stringer? Edward Stringer names Sarah Campbell in his 10 March 1778 (probate June Court 1799) Caswell County, NC will -- "Stringer, Edward, Judah (wife); Edmond, Limeledge, Mary Ann, James and William (children); Agnes Whitlock, Fanny Sutherland, Lucy Browning, Tabitha Peed, Sarah Campbell and Frances Vier (daughters)" [abstract from Olds, "North Carolina Wills" page 54] ~*~*~*~ <A HREF="http://www.ednabarney.com/">Edna Barney</A>

In a message dated 2/18/2003 7:47:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > One affidavit from a man who served with William Via states "Gideon Via & > John Via (brothers to William)---- in same company". This Gideon who is > the son of John Via is not the Ohio Gideon Viah. > Buddy, This area frustrates me greatly as I cannot seem to pin down any documented information. We know John born about 1710 had a son Gideon. Not only was Gideon mentioned in deeds pertaining to John's land but there is info on his service during the Revolution. "A Muster Roll of Capt James Burtons Company in the Regiment of Guards at the Barracks in Albemarle County Commanded by Colonel Francis Taylor for the months of March, April, May, June, and July 1780..... Privates: John Via Feby 18 enlisted from Amherst Gideon Via Feby 15 enlisted from Amherst Littleberry Via Mar 18 enlisted from Amherst But after Gideon sold the land he inherited from his father (sold it in 1795) I cannot find him in any other records. There is a Gideon that I believe may be the same in the personal property tax list for Buckingham County in 1796. I believe the elder Gideon was levy free. Anyway after 1796 I cannot find Gideon again. So it's very frustrating not to be able to find him after 1796!! Judy

In a message dated 2/18/2003 8:01:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Because of the above date of 1766 and David Laird as a witness, do you think > > that the "Francis Viah" portrayed as a male, could have been Frances Via, > widow of David Via? > Edna, I too have wondered about this. I have tried a few times to get copies of these court papers but so far no luck. I have a researcher I use sometimes in Richmond and use to use one in Albemarle but neither could get these records. I'd like to see the promissory note. I have not been able to find any other reference anywhere to a Francis Via for this time period. That of course doesn't prove anything but it does lead me to believe the Francis Viah most likely was Frances Stringer Via. I have not given up on this quest and hope someday to be able to obtain a copy of the note. The same thing goes for the "items" referenced to John Via for being indebted to James Johnson and John Branch. I'd like to see those papers too. Judy

Thought I'd add to this discussion: date 23 Aug 1773 -- "Thomas Johnston, Jr., security for Frances, widow, and admx. of David Via, now married to John Edie, asks counter security" entered into Order Book No. XV (from Chalkey, Vol 1, page 175) and "John Edey m. by 1773, Frances (?Stringer) Via, widow of David [Via]" (from Wulfeck, Vol 1, page 319 under John Edey) Rae Jean in Tennessee [email protected] -------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [VIA-L] GIDEON In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:31:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I cannot say positively but I believe David Laird had something to do with > the 10th Va Regiment...may have commanded it at times. And Gideon, son of > David and Frances was bound out when a youngster to David Laird. > Judy, regarding the above Gideon Via: His father David Via died in 1766. His mother, Frances Via, did not remarry until sometime after 1767, according to this from Chalkey's May 19, 1767 "Joseph Bousant to be summoned to show why he retains William Via, son of Frances Via (Viges)." And November 24, 1767, "Order summoning Joseph Bonsant, on complaint of Frances Viers, is dismissed." Gideon and David Via were bound out to David Laird, 1768, after their father, David Via's death. I think these all occurred in Augusta County. I find this from Albemarle County interesting; Francis Viah shows Robert Emperson is indebted to him. Order to arrest Emperson, dated 13 June. Promissory note of Emperson to Francis Viah dated 30 July 1766 witness David Laird. (Albemarle County, Virginia Court Papers 1744-1783 abstracted and compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger, III, Iberian Publishing Co., 1995, page 56) Because of the above date of 1766 and David Laird as a witness, do you think that the "Francis Viah" portrayed as a male, could have been Frances Via, widow of David Via?

In a message dated 2/18/2003 9:31:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I cannot say positively but I believe David Laird had something to do with > the 10th Va Regiment...may have commanded it at times. And Gideon, son of > David and Frances was bound out when a youngster to David Laird. > Judy, regarding the above Gideon Via: His father David Via died in 1766. His mother, Frances Via, did not remarry until sometime after 1767, according to this from Chalkey's May 19, 1767 "Joseph Bousant to be summoned to show why he retains William Via, son of Frances Via (Viges)." And November 24, 1767, "Order summoning Joseph Bonsant, on complaint of Frances Viers, is dismissed." Gideon and David Via were bound out to David Laird, 1768, after their father, David Via's death. I think these all occurred in Augusta County. I find this from Albemarle County interesting; Francis Viah shows Robert Emperson is indebted to him. Order to arrest Emperson, dated 13 June. Promissory note of Emperson to Francis Viah dated 30 July 1766 witness David Laird. (Albemarle County, Virginia Court Papers 1744-1783 abstracted and compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger, III, Iberian Publishing Co., 1995, page 56) Because of the above date of 1766 and David Laird as a witness, do you think that the "Francis Viah" portrayed as a male, could have been Frances Via, widow of David Via? ~Edna Barney ~*~*~*~ 'Ye are the true keepers of the stories, and so long as yet one of ye live and breathe, so shall a bit of me... Temple or nae.' from The Departure of Themis ~*~*~*~ <A HREF="http://www.ednabarney.com/">www.ednabarney.com</A>

Judy: Thanks for your information. I can see where I was wrong on my info and the Galliao, Ohio Gideon. I looked over the copies of my William Via b abt 1751, son of John Via b abt 1710, pension application. One affidavit from a man who served with William Via states "Gideon Via & John Via (brothers to William)---- in same company". This Gideon who is the son of John Via is not the Ohio Gideon Viah. "that this is incorrect info I believe it to be wrong." Buddy

In a message dated 2/18/2003 1:51:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I believe that the Gideons serving in Taylors, 6th and 10th Va regts are the > same person, This Gideon would be son of John Via b abt 1710,and was born > in 1755. > He moved to Gallio, Ohio, filed for his pension in Ohio with name VIAH and > died and buried in Ohio. > Buddy, I hope I can help somewhat in this area. I've seen over and over again where it's cited by various researchers that the Gideon who moved to Gallia Co., Ohio was the son of John Via born about 1710. While I cannot say (I can say and so say but only to myself!!) that this is incorrect info I believe it to be wrong. The Gideon who went to Ohio (again in my humble opinion) was the son of David Via and Frances Stringer. Reasons?? 1. From Gideon's pension application - "doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated, that is to say; That in or about the month of September A.D. 1777 being a resident of Augusta County Va " Notice this says that he was a resident of Augusta County. I don't believe we have anything showing John or his sons as living in Augusta County. 2. Also from his pension record "That in the fall of the year 1780 at Rockingham Co Va where he then lived he was again drafted for a term of three months" Same situation. I don't believe we've documented John or his sons as having lived in Rockingham Co. Although this is after John's death and his sons could have moved anywhere I still don't see them as having lived in Augusta County and then Rockingham County. 3. The biggest reason I believe this Gideon was the son of David Via and Frances Stringer (Frances married John Eddy after David's death) is because of the following deed. This Indenture Made this 14th day of June one Thousand Seven Hundred & Ninety one Between John Edey of the County of Bath & State of Virginia of the one part and Gidian Viah of the County & State aforesaid of the Other part witnesseth these that the Said John Edey for the Consideration of the Sum of Twenty Two pounds of Virginia money in hand paid (the Receipt of which the Said Edey Doth hereby acknowledge) & for the Same I do Bargain Sell alein & Confirm unto the sd Viah his Heirs & assigns a Certain Tract or parcel of Land Containing fifty acres more or Less Lying & Being in the County of Bath - & State aforesaid Begining at a White Oak in the Original Line near a Small Branch thence with the Same North Thirty Degrees East forty Eight poles to a Black Oak & White Oak one of the original Corners thence with an other of Said Lines North Seventeen East Seventy Six Poles to Two white Oaks an other of sd Corners thence North seventy west Seventy Eight poles to a Hickry & White Oak an Other of sd Corners thence South Eighty west Twenty Six poles to Two Hickryes & Red Oak an other of sd Corners thence South Eighteen East forty Two poles to a Sycamore & Hickry an other of sd Corners thence South thirty four west Sixty four poles to Two white Oaks thence Leaving the Old Line South three East Twenty five poles to a white Oak at the Edge of the Bottom thence South Sixty Two East thirty Two poles to the Begining Together with all its appertenances to have & to hold the same for ever & the said Gidian Viah his Heirs or assigns Shall Ever hereafter have Recourse to hold Occupy possess & Enjoy all the Singularly the Land within those Lines Conveyd & the Benefits that may arise therefrom & for the True performance I John Edey & francis my wife Do Bind ourselves our Heirs Executors Administrator & assign firmly by these presents in witness whereof we hath hereunto Set our hands and profixed our Seals in the presents of the day & year above writen John Edde Francis Edde (her mark) Francis Edde being Gideon's mother. Gideon held this land until 1818 when he sold it to Clemintious Swearinggin. By 1820 Gideon was in census records for Gallia Co., Ohio I cannot say positively but I believe David Laird had something to do with the 10th Va Regiment...may have commanded it at times. And Gideon, son of David and Frances was bound out when a youngster to David Laird. If anyone else has any comments or corrections please post them. I believe our goal is to accurately place these early Via's in their correct lines....so if you have anything to help us - please do. Judy

Hey all, I see that there are several new people to the list...any chance anyone has relation to the Nicholas Viar line??? The Nicholas who married Ann Nichodemus on May 166, 1844 in Lynchburg...he had a son, Charles Nicholas Viar who had a son, Thomas Nicholas Via. Chris

Becky: I have been trying to sort out and place 2 or 3 Gideons. I was wondering if your ancestor Gideon may have served in the Revolution. Would his age be right to place him in the war. In the book "Index to Revolutionary War Service Records" there are these Gideons are listed. VIA, Gidion, served as pvt in Taylors Va Regt Gideon, served as Sgt in Va Troups, card #5826 roll 53 VIAH Gideon ser as Pvt in 6th Va Regt Gideon ser as Pvt in 10th Va Regt. also see 6th Va Regt. I believe that the Gideons serving in Taylors, 6th and 10th Va regts are the same person, This Gideon would be son of John Via b abt 1710,and was born in 1755. He moved to Gallio, Ohio, filed for his pension in Ohio with name VIAH and died and buried in Ohio. I can not identify the Sgt Gideon Via. Is he the same as the other Gideons and one person. The card # 5826 roll 53 may solve the identity. I am not sure where to obtain this card # 5826. Can you help. THANKS Buddy

Hi everyone, I got this email from Robert Via. I won't be able to go to his reunion, I will be going to my family reunion on July 4th at Grottoes, Virginia. Maybe, some of you can go. Elaine =^..^= ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: Reunion A MapQuest map has been sent to you by [email protected] .com. There will be a annual "Via Reunion"on Mothers Day 05/11/03 @ Mint Spring Park, Crozet, VA. This is the location of where William A & Susie Via homeplace and graves are. Also where Dewey,Claud and there offspring were born and raised. The park is was donated by Dolly Via Seale. This is where my Via family has had their reunion for over 20 years. There is a historian David Via who attends each year. His occupation is to identify and restoration of old graves in Albermarle Co. Please pass this on to all that are intersted. To view your map, click on this link or cut and paste this link into your browser's location bar. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?email=1&mapdat MapQuest.com is the Web's leading provider of free Maps and Driving Directions. Visit us today at www.mapquest.com.

John VIA b abt 1710 d 1786 Amherst Co Va.. John's hand written will of 17 August 1781 Amherst Co Va. and Probated 5 March 1786 Amherst Co Va.. I have a copy of this hand written will by John Via b abt 1710 and his signature reads John Via. All his children should have been born with Via as last name regardless of how the name was altered later by these sons or record keepers. My father was a Vier. His marriage record reads Viers. I have been a Viers for over 76 years. I sold an insurance policy to a lady long ago. She had 8 children by 8 differant husbands and her name at the time was not the same as any of the children. She had just re-married. Do a family tree on that one. Buddy

Actually, I believe Virginians are very soft on the pronunciation of the letter "r." For instance, when Virginians address men as "sir" it sounds like "suh." If this is true, then could it originally have been "Viar" instead of "Via?" Jeff

I agree with Rob concerning the VIA, Viar and Viare name and the way people still day it to day in Virginia when I visit. It sounds almost like it has has an R on the end with an accent. The name is VIA but it is spelled differantly in grave stones and some documents. Leon

Just to throw in my two cents! <G> My Henry William who was the son of Gideon Via, was born in King William County, VA, lived in Caroline county and believed to have died in King William County. His name appears as Vier, but Henry's children who moved to WV listed their name as Viar. So it seems it was Via , Vier and then Viar, which makes for a difficult time researching if you are not that familar with the many different lines. Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moore, Linda L" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: RE: [VIA-L] Still Viar in Albemarle County, Virginia > I have lived in Albemarle County almost all of my life. I went to the telephone book and there are 45 listings for VIA and 15 for VIAR. The Viar's are almost all in Nelson county where just about all of the Via's are live in Albemarle. > My maiden name was "Via". > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VIA-L] Still Viar in Albemarle County, Virginia > > > In a message dated 2/14/2003 12:49:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > While going through the obits from the "Daily Progress" that are on line. I > > saw an obituary for a Viar. I lived there for nine years knew some of this > > family, but did not know they spelled it Viar. > > William - just a comment about the above posting. My Via family are from the > area of Albemarle where you lived - Sugar Hollow, Doylesville, and they, as > you say, spelled it as "VIA." But on occasion, in letters in the 1930s and > 1940s, my great grandmother signed her name as "VIAR." I do not know why. I > have often wondered if it seemed more "literate" that way. ~~ <A HREF="http://www.ednabarney.com/">Edna Barney</A> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Group: Via, Viar, and Viare appear within the same families on numerous documents and gravestones. My own view is that it has more to do with how it was spoken out loud and how others heard it and wrote it down or engraved it in stone. Christopher Columbus Via's gravestone bears the professional engraving VIAR, deeds and other documents of his children (indeed his son's Supreme Court filing) use the spelling VIA, Rossie his daughter who is buried in the same cemetary with him has the professionally engraved ROSSIE L. VIARE. Christopher Columbus Via was married in Augusta County on August 29, 1872 and the name VIA is used on his Certificate to Obtain a Marriage License. >My own view is that it has more to do with how it was spoken out loud and how others heard it and wrote it down or engraved it in stone. Today we might order the gravestone maker to do it again and replace the marker - or maybe just take it in stride because we know who we are. Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Group: Via, Viar, and Viare appear within the same families on numerous documents and gravestones. My own view is that it has more to do with how it was spoken out loud and how others heard it and wrote it down or engraved it in stone. Christopher Columbus Via's gravestone bears the professional engraving VIAR, deeds and other documents of his children (indeed his son's Supreme Court filing) use the spelling VIA, Rossie his daughter who is buried in the same cemetary with him has the professionally engraved ROSSIE L. VIARE. Christopher Columbus Via was married in Augusta County on August 29, 1872 and the name VIA is used on his Certificate to Obtain a Marriage License. >My own view is that it has more to do with how it was spoken out loud and how others heard it and wrote it down or engraved it in stone. Today we might order the gravestone maker to do it again and replace the marker - or maybe just take it in stride because we know who we are. Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I have lived in Albemarle County almost all of my life. I went to the telephone book and there are 45 listings for VIA and 15 for VIAR. The Viar's are almost all in Nelson county where just about all of the Via's are live in Albemarle. My maiden name was "Via". Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VIA-L] Still Viar in Albemarle County, Virginia In a message dated 2/14/2003 12:49:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > While going through the obits from the "Daily Progress" that are on line. I > saw an obituary for a Viar. I lived there for nine years knew some of this > family, but did not know they spelled it Viar. William - just a comment about the above posting. My Via family are from the area of Albemarle where you lived - Sugar Hollow, Doylesville, and they, as you say, spelled it as "VIA." But on occasion, in letters in the 1930s and 1940s, my great grandmother signed her name as "VIAR." I do not know why.  I have often wondered if it seemed more "literate" that way. ~~ <A HREF="http://www.ednabarney.com/">Edna Barney</A>

In a message dated 2/14/2003 12:49:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > While going through the obits from the "Daily Progress" that are on line. I > saw an obituary for a Viar. I lived there for nine years knew some of this > family, but did not know they spelled it Viar. William - just a comment about the above posting. My Via family are from the area of Albemarle where you lived - Sugar Hollow, Doylesville, and they, as you say, spelled it as "VIA." But on occasion, in letters in the 1930s and 1940s, my great grandmother signed her name as "VIAR." I do not know why.  I have often wondered if it seemed more "literate" that way. ~~ <A HREF="http://www.ednabarney.com/">Edna Barney</A>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WVUBAEB/12.82.109.1 Message Board Post: I know that Amer apparently had a son named William b. ABT 1698 or 1700...The name VIA changed to VIAR, VIARS, VIRES, VIER, VIERS to name the most common variations. It is in no way Native American...just French apparently.