Hi everybody! This is your listowner, Pat. It's been a long time since I have written something to all of you. We still have family illness, in fact we recently had another family member added. This is why you haven't heard too much from me. There are a lot of other things going on, but I won't bore you with all of that. *************** I just want to remind you folks, about unsubscribing, or when you get a new e-mail address. When you get a new e-mail address, be sure you unsubscribe your old one first, and subscribe your new one. If you forget which address to send it to, just look at the list address, and then add: -request@rootsweb.com If you are on digest mode mail, where there are several notes in one email note, then be sure to use this address: VESTAL-D-request@rootsweb.com If you send to the VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com when you are actually in the digest mail mode, it will bounce back and tell you that you are not of the list. This is most of the problems that crop up, as folks forget which mode they are on. Also, it just might be easier for some folks to just go to the rootsweb site, and subscribe and unsubscribe from there. If you have any types of problems, and just need to get a hold of me, please, please put in the subject: HELP and I will open this up when I get a chance to check my mail. The other problems that come up, is that your internet provider, sometimes add in some extra characters to the end of your email address. So you may subscribe with one, and then when the ISP adds extra characters and you try to post a note to the list, your mail will bounce back to me, telling me that you are not a subscriber. If this happens, I can add you to the accept list. And this way, you can post, and yet not receive duplicate notes. If this is happening to you, put HELP in the subject, and I will take care of it. **************** We have had several new members join us recently. We would ALL love to see your Vestal line posted here. Maybe you will find some others on your same VESTAL line! ***** I'm still looking for additional information on George Simeon Jay, b. 1806 prob. SC, a Vestal descendant (I think). I need to find proof that the Simeon Jay b. 1806 in SC, is the same person as George Simeon Jay, that showed up in Red River Co., TX about 1843. In Red River Co., TX, 1847, he married Mrs. Susannah Dean, widow of Asa Dean. George S. Jay died in Lamar Co., TX in 1856. Known children with an unknown wife (would like to have her name!), are, Jesse C. Jay, George S. or W. Jay, Mary F. Jay that m. Leonard Snowden. Children with Susannah Dean (maiden unkn.), are William Jay, and Susan Ann Jay that m. Ira Cooper in Jack Co., TX. William and Susan lived in Jack Co., TX, in the 1870 and 1880 census. If George Simeon Jay is the same person as Simeon Jay, then there was a first marriage to Ellender Eliza Walton about 1826, and they had a dau., Elizabeth Ellender Jay b. 1827. Ellender died in childbirth or soon after having Elizabeth. If George Simeon and Simeon Jay are the same person, then the father is Jesse Jay that died in Edgefield Dist., SC about 1837. Then this Jesse is a son of Joseph and Mary Cothran Jay of Abbleville Dist., SC. And Joseph is a son of William and Mary Vestal Jay. I sure would like to confirm this!!!! Pat Bagwell Vestal-L Listowner Pat Bagwell Icezena@texas.net Listowner for Bagwell, Boswell, Jay, & Vestal