Tony and other interested Vestal researchers, below is a hypothetical Vestal family, not yet proven, but put together by several circumstantial pieces of evidence for the sake of research possibilities.. The John Vestal below is not to be confused with the John who married Hannah Dixon and Elizabeth Carter. That John's will conclusively eliminates him as the father of the children below: 1 John Vestal, Sr. - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1765, Cane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC Death: aft 1830, Macon Co., MO? Father: James Vestal (1730-1793) Mother: Phebe Allen (~1747-) Spouse: Sibby? (Name could be a nickname for any form of Elizabeth or Could be Sibil, Sibyl, or Sibilla, or Sibbia or Sabrena??) Birth: abt 1768, Surry Co., NC? Marr: abt 1786, Surry Co., NC Children: David (1788-1879) John (1788-) William Samuel (1795-1862) James (1794-<1850) Lavina (ca1808-1850) Jacob (~1792-) Rebecca (~1803-) 1.1 David Vestal (Twin of John) - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 2 Jan 1788, Surry Co., NC Death: 1 Oct 1879, Shelby Twp., Ripley Co., IN Burial: Evans Farm Cem. Jefferson Co., IN At the age of 22 (1810) David Vestal moved with his two brothers one a twin brother, John, to Wayne Co., KY. On 22 Aug 1812 he enlisted in Capt. Micah Falls Co., under Col. Barly, Kentucky Militia. Receive a Bounty land Grant for his service in War of 1812. Spouse: Sarah Wade Birth: 1789, Fayette, VA/Montgomery, KY Death: 3 Oct 1875, Brown Twp., Ripley Co., IN Father: Dawson Wade Jr. (~1766-), son of Dawson, Jr. and Rachel Burnside. Mother: Nancy Rice (~1768-) Marr: 9 Apr 1812, Wayne Co., KY Children: Susan A. (1814-) Rachel (1816-<1860) John (1817-1918) first born son Mary Ann (1821-1901) Sarah Isabelle (1824->1850)Twins David (1824->1860)Twins named after parents William Henry Harrison (1826-1849) George Washington (1827-) Elliot J. (1829-) Caroline E. (1833-1926) Hannah (ca1834-) Rebecca Lavinia (1835-1927) 1.2 John Vestal Jr.(Twin of David) - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 2 Jan 1788, Surry Co., NC Said to have lived for a while in IN central or northern part of state. Thought to have married a sister of Sara Wade, the wife of his twin brother, but this may not be true. No evidence found in Wade family marriages. Personally I think John travel west to MO with his parents. 1.3a William Samuel Vestal* - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 13 Aug 1795, Chatham Co., NC Death: 15 Dec 1862, Jackson, Monroe Co., IA David Vestal above had a younger? or older? brother named William. There are two or three other possible Williams. This William is chosen because the IN Vestal descendants thought that David's brother, William, married David's wife, Sarah Wade's first cousin. This William married 1st Mary or Polly Moore and upon her dead her sister, Easter Moore. Both Moore sisters were 1st counsins to Sarah Wade. Spouse: Easter Moore (2nd wife) Birth: 1800, Montgomery Co., KY Death: bef 1850, IN Father: Thomas Moore Mother: Nancy Wade (~1772-), daughter of Dawson Wade, Sr. and Rachel Burnside. Marr: 9 Apr 1820, Montgomery Co., KY Children: Jacob (1821-) Jemima (1824-1903) Nancy (1826-) Sarah Ann (1828-) Lavina (1829-) Margaret Jane (1830-) Maria (1832-) John (1834-) Elizabeth (1835-) Amanda (1836-) Eliza Catherine (1837-) William Samuel Jr. (1842-) Other spouses: Mary Moore "Polly" 1.3b William Samuel Vestal* (See above) - ------------------------------------------- Spouse: Mary Moore "Polly" (First wife) Father: Thomas Moore Mother: Nancy Wade (~1772-) Other spouses: Easter Moore 1.4 James Vestal - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 1794, NC Death: bef 1850 Spouse: Jemima Wright Birth: ca 1796, Wayne Co., KY Father: Evan C. Wright (1762-1846) Mother: Rebecca Summers (~1774-~1864) Marr: 10 Feb 1814, Wayne Co., KY Children: James Emerson (1815-1897) David (1817-) Nancy (1822-) William S. (1824-1903) Jacob (1827-) Edward Johnson (1829-) Amy Jane (1830-) Lavina (1831-) Claiborne (1832-) John E. (1834-) 1.5 Lavina Vestal - ------------------------------------------- Birth: ca 1808, Wayne Co., KY Death: 1850-1855, Macon Co., MO Lavina's obituary in Macon, MO definitely states that her father's name was John Vestal Spouse: William Phipps Birth: 1 Sep 1808, Wayne Co., KY Death: 4 Nov 1900, Macon Co., MO Marr: 25 Dec 1829, Wayne Co., KY 1.6 Jacob Vestal - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1792 Spouse: Selah Summers Marr: 13 Aug 1812, Wayne Co., KY 1.7 Rebecca Vestal - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1803, Wayne Co., KY Spouse: Claiborne Wright Birth: abt 1800 Marr: 11 Jan 1821, Wayne Co., KY Please note that there is a 1830 Delinquent tax record in Wayne Co., KY that lists John Vestal, Sr and John Vestal, Jr, and James Vestal as all having "gone to Missouri." Also James Vestal's marriage record states "both gent's parents present and approved marriage." His parents were in KY, had left NC. So the John, Sr. is likely John Vestal and wife, Sibby. The John, Jr. very likely is David's twin brother, John b. 1788. Interestingly, David's first son is named John. There is a similarity in the names of the children of David, James and William, more suggestive circumstatial data, but not proof. The other possible Williams are: William Vestal b. abt 1792? married Harriet Anderson in in Kenton Co., KY 19 sept 1830. She the daughter of a William H. Anderson. David Vestal and Dawson Wade, David's father-in-law, witnessed the will of a John Anderson in 1814 in Montgomery Co., KY. William and Harriet Vestal lived in Kenton Co, a stone's throw across the OHio river to Jefferson co., IN where David lived. Another hard to place William Vestal is the one who married Rachel Dougan about 1724 in TN. I belive this William is more probably the son of William Vestal and Sarah Chamness Vestal (both Vestals) born in 1792. But no proof that I have of where these Williams fit. Other that our family tradition (which may be wrong!) that our David's brother, William, married Sarah Wade's first cousin. There was a William Vestal witness to the will of Dawson Wade Jr. Or Sr?? I forget. The William and Harriet Vestal wrote will in Grant Co., KY 1856, probated there in 1864, a son, John and widow Harriet in 1870 census. Wm. age 50 in 1850 census, Grant co., KY John and David the twins were said to have had a sister, Rachel who was left behind in NC when the sons ventured across the Cumberland Gap and followed the trail to Boonesboro, KY (now Madison Co.) I think she had married and may have come to IN later. Which Rachel she is I do not know. James Vestal and Mary Jay had a daughter, Rachel who married John Bullock but she would be an aunt. Any corrections or additions or further speculation would be helpful. Tom